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Zeppelin attack 1916

Postby Bluestreak » Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:16 pm

Two bombs hit Pools main stand and after the war the club bombarded the German government with letter demanding £2500 in compensation. They got no reply. It's worth £328,000 now so for the price of a stamp it may be worth a punt.
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Postby Bluestreak » Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:52 pm

This is the guy with the cash.

Federal Minister Lars Klingbeil
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Postby Sussex UK » Sun Sep 14, 2025 4:09 pm

Is this another brexit thread ?
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Postby Snowy » Sun Sep 14, 2025 5:06 pm

My great Granda had uniform button of one of the uniforms of the zeppelin that was shot down…wonder where that is now…the button, not the Zeppelin.
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Postby accrington fan » Mon Sep 15, 2025 9:44 am

if this happened now to some german ground this government would send the club a blank cheque for its rebuilding and not just for one stand. anyway pools missed a good earner when the old stand was still there. they could have charged historians a tour of it with replica zeppelines for sale in the club shop.
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Postby Bluestreak » Mon Sep 15, 2025 12:14 pm

Snowy wrote:My great Granda had uniform button of one of the uniforms of the zeppelin that was shot down…wonder where that is now…the button, not the Zeppelin.


The commander of the Zeppelin shot down was Max Dietrich who was the uncle of Marlene Dietrich. He along with the other bodies recovered from the sea were given full military honours and buried in Seaton Church. He and others were then transferred to the Cannock Chase German war cemetery in 1962.
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Postby Stocksfield_Poolie » Mon Sep 15, 2025 12:48 pm

More details can be found here:

https://ivormarkman.wixsite.com/photojo ... -pyott-dso

A fascinating read.
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Postby Bluestreak » Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:12 pm

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:More details can be found here:

https://ivormarkman.wixsite.com/photojo ... -pyott-dso

A fascinating read.


Great read!!!
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Postby Snowy » Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:37 pm

Most enjoyable read…only cloud was reading through and warily expecting to find.he’d been shot down later in the war.

I read recently that early in WW2, a Condor bomber (scourge of the Atlantic) was mine laying and was shot down…’ when it got too close to the anti aircraft guns at Hartlepool’.
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Postby MutleyRules » Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:40 pm

Really enjoyed that.
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Postby Bluestreak » Mon Sep 15, 2025 2:20 pm

Snowy wrote:Most enjoyable read…only cloud was reading through and warily expecting to find.he’d been shot down later in the war.

I read recently that early in WW2, a Condor bomber (scourge of the Atlantic) was mine laying and was shot down…’ when it got too close to the anti aircraft guns at Hartlepool’.


There is some doubt about this claim as I recently spoke to someone who is really interested in this stuff who said it was a Dornier attacking a vessel that checked incoming to ships into the port.A Hartlepool Lewis gun fired off 2 magazines (47 x 2) at it. Later a Dornier crashed at Cullercoats but it is unclear which action caused the crash. However any fact that puts Hartlepool in a good light must be regarded as fact. :wink:
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Postby Snowy » Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:20 pm

Bluestreak wrote:
Snowy wrote:Most enjoyable read…only cloud was reading through and warily expecting to find.he’d been shot down later in the war.

I read recently that early in WW2, a Condor bomber (scourge of the Atlantic) was mine laying and was shot down…’ when it got too close to the anti aircraft guns at Hartlepool’.


There is some doubt about this claim as I recently spoke to someone who is really interested in this stuff who said it was a Dornier attacking a vessel that checked incoming to ships into the port.A Hartlepool Lewis gun fired off 2 magazines (47 x 2) at it. Later a Dornier crashed at Cullercoats but it is unclear which action caused the crash. However any fact that puts Hartlepool in a good light must be regarded as fact. :wink:
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I’ve still got the article, it was a history of Focke Wulf Condor aircraft…I was a bit dubious, but the author is an aircraft historian which I ain’t….I’ll have to find the bloody thing now :laugh:
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Postby Snowy » Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:24 pm

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:https://www.baaa-acro.com/crash/crash-focke-wulf-condor-atlantic-ocean

Yes I know, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story!

https://www.baaa-acro.com/crash-archive ... r%20(30134)

What is the relevance… ? The condor was a conversion of an air liner but had structural weaknesses affecting the main wing spar which caused the aircraft to break up if put into extreme manoeuvres…..when enemy aircraft approached it.
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Postby Snowy » Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:31 pm

One thing that always baffled me was the German uniform button my great grandfather had, but after reading this article this cleared up how it came about as it was said he got it off the town moor ( they lived in Middlegate) and in the article it mentioned it was breaking up I over St Hilda’s…so now it makes sense…I assumed it had broken up over the sea.
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Postby Stocksfield_Poolie » Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:51 pm

The relevance was that it does not appear that a condor ever went down off the coast of Hartlepool according to that website.
Hence why I said never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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Postby Bluestreak » Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:52 pm

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Postby Stocksfield_Poolie » Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:53 pm

I read that they moved the german bodies to that cemetery from 1962 to 1967 when it was officially opened.
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Postby Bluestreak » Mon Sep 15, 2025 4:21 pm

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:I read that they moved the german bodies to that cemetery from 1962 to 1967 when it was officially opened.


Yes i understand that too.
I was in Koblenz in German a few years ago and i wandered into a cemetery which had both ww1 and ww2 graves.The ww1 graves were made of polished stone with full details of the fallen yet the ww2 only had name and age on crumbling concrete gravestones. As ww2 progressed the ages got younger and older as they were running out of servicemen.It was quite upsetting to see.
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Postby Snowy » Mon Sep 15, 2025 4:33 pm

For all the details about the Condor…Google ‘Focke Wulf aircraft lost in U K waters’ …..all the details are there, even to crew survivors.
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