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I have watched Carole Malone on a few programs, not GB Nrews, she keeps referring to asylum seekers being housed in 4 star hotels with all the trimmings which they don’t as they are stripped back to a basic room,


Sky high insurance premiums,lift maintenance,fire door remedial work,expensive plumbing and electrical work all brought up to date taken care of thanks to the UK tax payer..Hotel owners shake hands with Home Office Official..job done.


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I have watched Carole Malone on a few programs, not GB Nrews, she keeps referring to asylum seekers being housed in 4 star hotels with all the trimmings which they don’t as they are stripped back to a basic room,


Sky high insurance premiums,lift maintenance,fire door remedial work,expensive plumbing and electrical work all brought up to date taken care of thanks to the UK tax payer..Hotel owners shake hands with Home Office Official..job done.


So the hotels were all operating with out all these mandatory requirements in place before the asylum seekers moved in, that’s a Carol Malone statement, I doubt they would have got insurance if they weren’t in place whilst operating as a hotel, albeit the insurance premiums could be higher with the asylum seekers stay.
My niece is a manager of a hotel in Bristol, they housed asylum seekers temporarily, no upgrades were made in fact the rooms were stripped back and only had the basic requirements. In fact she said they were decent polite people and caused no problems whatsoever.


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Jamie what about your Labour MPs who've resigned or been sacked or lost the whip?
Reasons being one was a convicted fraudster, one convicted of assault, one due to evicting her Tennant's so she could put the rent up, one couldn't tolerate the cuts to foreign aid and couldn't be part of it, another similarly re benefits reforms, and it all costs tax payers money as many were ministers and as such will get enhanced pensions etc as will their replacements.
Then there's those that have lost the whip for daring to vote with their conscience or even in favour of their constituents.
Reform councillor misdemeanours pale into insignificance in comparison.



Some of us are still waiting for your reply,jamie? sctatchinghead


You will wait forever Sussex, I am not going to get drawn into one of your goading trolling replies.


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None in my eyes but obviously a cardinal sin not following the party lines.
The fact that a newish party are leading most opinion polls within a year of Labour taking power shows what a corrupt, inept, broken shambles they are - remember they were ready to drain the swamp, smash the people smuggling gangs, protect the vulnerable, support business, and grow the economy, etc
Yet the reality is, they're on the take starting at the very top, they're criminals and thugs, they welcome illegals with open arms, they rob pensioners and the disabled, they've hammered business and growth has stalled.
And there's much worse going on which is or will affect us all in terms of freedoms under this lot.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Jamie what about your Labour MPs who've resigned or been sacked or lost the whip?
Reasons being one was a convicted fraudster, one convicted of assault, one due to evicting her Tennant's so she could put the rent up, one couldn't tolerate the cuts to foreign aid and couldn't be part of it, another similarly re benefits reforms, and it all costs tax payers money as many were ministers and as such will get enhanced pensions etc as will their replacements.
Then there's those that have lost the whip for daring to vote with their conscience or even in favour of their constituents.
Reform councillor misdemeanours pale into insignificance in comparison.



Some of us are still waiting for your reply,jamie? sctatchinghead


You will wait forever Sussex, I am going to get drawn into one of your goading trolling replies.


That’ll be a first….. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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None in my eyes but obviously a cardinal sin not following the party lines.
The fact that a newish party are leading most opinion polls within a year of Labour taking power shows what a corrupt, inept, broken shambles they are - remember they were ready to drain the swamp, smash the people smuggling gangs, protect the vulnerable, support business, and grow the economy, etc
Yet the reality is, they're on the take starting at the very top, they're criminals and thugs, they welcome illegals with open arms, they rob pensioners and the disabled, they've hammered business and growth has stalled.
And there's much worse going on which is or will affect us all in terms of freedoms under this lot.

But but but.....the Tories. :laugh: :laugh:


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The Tories got their slating when they were in power, the opinion polls reflect what the public thinks of both main parties. However the Tories are not running the shit show anymore, Labour have been in power for nearly 14 months now and the country is in a worse state by most measures since they came to power. Their pre-election mantra was that they're ready, they obviously weren't, they stand for change - they didn't say it would be for the worst, honesty and integrity in politics - fraudsters, thugs, and free-loaders, need I say more!
Time for them to stop blaming the previous government (they were shown the door ages ago), take ownership of issues and get them sorted.


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None in my eyes but obviously a cardinal sin not following the party lines.
The fact that a newish party are leading most opinion polls within a year of Labour taking power shows what a corrupt, inept, broken shambles they are - remember they were ready to drain the swamp, smash the people smuggling gangs, protect the vulnerable, support business, and grow the economy, etc
Yet the reality is, they're on the take starting at the very top, they're criminals and thugs, they welcome illegals with open arms, they rob pensioners and the disabled, they've hammered business and growth has stalled.
And there's much worse going on which is or will affect us all in terms of freedoms under this lot.


Some ‘strong’ libellous words there PTID, can you back them up, ‘corrupt’, ‘they're criminals and thugs’, ‘ they welcome illegals with open arms’, ‘ they rob pensioners and the disabled’ Can you post some links to back those words up.

The whole global economy has stalled not just the UK due to factors such as ongoing trade and policy uncertainty, escalating geopolitical tensions, and the potential for a double-shock combination of a trade war and kinetic conflict are hindering growth and increasing the risk of a global recession.

For some reason the right wing media pamper to Reform, Farage face is never out of the frame. He makes rash statements but never says how he is going to resolve the current issues.

His latest one is there will be 5 flights a day returning asylum seekers to where ever, he never said where to though. we are talking about thousands on a weekly basis. Does he think countries are just going to open up their borders and have a load of asylum seekers dumped on them. The worrying thing is some of the general public believe everything he says like Brexit will stop immigration which until recently increased.

Yes immigration stopped.from the EU, since the end of free movement following Brexit, net migration from EU countries has become negative, with more EU nationals leaving than arriving. The highest number of legal immigrants is now from India, Pakistani and Nigeria.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
I have watched Carole Malone on a few programs, not GB Nrews, she keeps referring to asylum seekers being housed in 4 star hotels with all the trimmings which they don’t as they are stripped back to a basic room,


Sky high insurance premiums,lift maintenance,fire door remedial work,expensive plumbing and electrical work all brought up to date taken care of thanks to the UK tax payer..Hotel owners shake hands with Home Office Official..job done.


So the hotels were all operating with out all these mandatory requirements in place before the asylum seekers moved in, that’s a Carol Malone statement, I doubt they would have got insurance if they weren’t in place whilst operating as a hotel, albeit the insurance premiums could be higher with the asylum seekers stay.
My niece is a manager of a hotel in Bristol, they housed asylum seekers temporarily, no upgrades were made in fact the rooms were stripped back and only had the basic requirements. In fact she said they were decent polite people and caused no problems whatsoever.


Strange,i'm sure it was you that brought to my attention the nice little deal offered to landlords via Serco and the Home Office...I'll check my posts.


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PTID wrote:
None in my eyes but obviously a cardinal sin not following the party lines.
The fact that a newish party are leading most opinion polls within a year of Labour taking power shows what a corrupt, inept, broken shambles they are - remember they were ready to drain the swamp, smash the people smuggling gangs, protect the vulnerable, support business, and grow the economy, etc
Yet the reality is, they're on the take starting at the very top, they're criminals and thugs, they welcome illegals with open arms, they rob pensioners and the disabled, they've hammered business and growth has stalled.
And there's much worse going on which is or will affect us all in terms of freedoms under this lot.

it does seem a little co incidental that the groups who rarely vote labour have suffered the most. pensioners, business owners and farmers. the boat people they are bringing in will definatly put there cross for labour and will be told to do so like many long term immigrants are. there will be 3 more years of this before those with short memories will be bribed by the give aways in labours last 12 months in office if they fancy another 5 years after that.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
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Jamie what about your Labour MPs who've resigned or been sacked or lost the whip?
Reasons being one was a convicted fraudster, one convicted of assault, one due to evicting her Tennant's so she could put the rent up, one couldn't tolerate the cuts to foreign aid and couldn't be part of it, another similarly re benefits reforms, and it all costs tax payers money as many were ministers and as such will get enhanced pensions etc as will their replacements.
Then there's those that have lost the whip for daring to vote with their conscience or even in favour of their constituents.
Reform councillor misdemeanours pale into insignificance in comparison.



Some of us are still waiting for your reply,jamie? sctatchinghead


You will wait forever Sussex, I am not going to get drawn into one of your goading trolling replies.



If a reform councillor had a sly fart at a council meeting you'd bring it up on here..just saying.


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Nothing libellous about the convicted ex MP who beat up one of his constituents being a thug is there? Or the transport secretary being convicted of fraud over her non stolen mobile phone being called a fraudster is there? Or a minister evicting her Tennant's so she can put the rents up being called corrupt (especially when she was working on legislation to stop that practice)? Or free-loaders "forgetting" to register gifts etc, etc?
Taking WFA and PIP from the vulnerable was seen by many as malicious theft hence the U Turns.
The biggest fraud of all is this lot telling us daily that they're competent to run the country and everything that's gone wrong in the past, is going wrong today, and will go wrong tomorrow is all somebody else's fault.
As for the economy, our economy has been harmed substantially with the measures put in place by Rachel Reeves, it's not the global economy that is driving investment away from the UK, causing the wealthy to up sticks and leave, causing businesses to lay staff off or put their prices up. You are always quick to remind us of the Truss budget, yet conveniently brush off all the damage done by RR as being down to global influences.


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The whole global economy has stalled not just the UK due to factors such as ongoing trade and policy uncertainty, escalating geopolitical tensions, and the potential for a double-shock combination of a trade war and kinetic conflict are hindering growth and increasing the risk of a global recession.


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You never Brexit once.What's going on ? sctatchinghead Are cracks appearing in your beloved EU?? sctatchinghead


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Sussex UK wrote:
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The whole global economy has stalled not just the UK due to factors such as ongoing trade and policy uncertainty, escalating geopolitical tensions, and the potential for a double-shock combination of a trade war and kinetic conflict are hindering growth and increasing the risk of a global recession.


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You never Brexit once.What's going on ? sctatchinghead Are cracks appearing in your beloved EU?? sctatchinghead


Of course I didn’t we are talking about the global economy, what I mentioned is affecting the whole of the world including the EU. I think you stick to footy Sussex as you appear to be clueless when it comes to politics one of many being sucked into everything Farage says, one trick pony.
BTW I am still waiting for you to tell me what advantages you or the U.K. has had since we left the EU ? What happened to all those millions we don’t have to pay to the EU like the big bus saying we would save £350 million a week, where has that gone ?


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i,d guess that 350 million went quite quickly on covid and now the dinghy divers since we left therefore the country could never see the full benefit even if it was there in the first place.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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The whole global economy has stalled not just the UK due to factors such as ongoing trade and policy uncertainty, escalating geopolitical tensions, and the potential for a double-shock combination of a trade war and kinetic conflict are hindering growth and increasing the risk of a global recession.


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You never Brexit once.What's going on ? sctatchinghead Are cracks appearing in your beloved EU?? sctatchinghead


Of course I didn’t we are talking about the global economy, what I mentioned is affecting the whole of the world including the EU. I think you stick to footy Sussex as you appear to be clueless when it comes to politics.
BTW I am still waiting for you to tell me what advantages you or the U.K. has had since we left the EU ? What happened to all those millions we don’t have to pay to the EU like the big bus saying we would save £350 million a week, where has that gone ?



You know all pros and the cons of membership...We decided we didn't want to bow to them anymore or keep getting fleeced with their never ending begging bowl..You come back with arguments that our musicians will find it hard to play in Europe,or that we have pay 6 euros at entry gates.. :laugh: :laugh: Are they still looking for us to cough up more for their march on Russia??How much have they fleeced out of Starmer on the side with feck all in return?


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In fact she said they were decent polite people and caused no problems whatsoever.

Who came into this country illegally, that sort of ‘decent polite people’…?

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Sussex UK wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
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The whole global economy has stalled not just the UK due to factors such as ongoing trade and policy uncertainty, escalating geopolitical tensions, and the potential for a double-shock combination of a trade war and kinetic conflict are hindering growth and increasing the risk of a global recession.


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You never Brexit once.What's going on ? sctatchinghead Are cracks appearing in your beloved EU?? sctatchinghead


Of course I didn’t we are talking about the global economy, what I mentioned is affecting the whole of the world including the EU. I think you stick to footy Sussex as you appear to be clueless when it comes to politics.
BTW I am still waiting for you to tell me what advantages you or the U.K. has had since we left the EU ? What happened to all those millions we don’t have to pay to the EU like the big bus saying we would save £350 million a week, where has that gone ?



You know all pros and the cons of membership...We decided we didn't want to bow to them anymore or keep getting fleeced with their never ending begging bowl..You come back with arguments that our musicians will find it hard to play in Europe,or that we have pay 6 euros at entry gates.. :laugh: :laugh: Are they still looking for us to cough up more for their march on Russia??How much have they fleeced out of Starmer on the side with feck all in return?

Is he still droning on about the EU…..wonder if he works for them sctatchinghead

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Snowy wrote:
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
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The whole global economy has stalled not just the UK due to factors such as ongoing trade and policy uncertainty, escalating geopolitical tensions, and the potential for a double-shock combination of a trade war and kinetic conflict are hindering growth and increasing the risk of a global recession.


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You never Brexit once.What's going on ? sctatchinghead Are cracks appearing in your beloved EU?? sctatchinghead


Of course I didn’t we are talking about the global economy, what I mentioned is affecting the whole of the world including the EU. I think you stick to footy Sussex as you appear to be clueless when it comes to politics.
BTW I am still waiting for you to tell me what advantages you or the U.K. has had since we left the EU ? What happened to all those millions we don’t have to pay to the EU like the big bus saying we would save £350 million a week, where has that gone ?



You know all pros and the cons of membership...We decided we didn't want to bow to them anymore or keep getting fleeced with their never ending begging bowl..You come back with arguments that our musicians will find it hard to play in Europe,or that we have pay 6 euros at entry gates.. :laugh: :laugh: Are they still looking for us to cough up more for their march on Russia??How much have they fleeced out of Starmer on the side with feck all in return?

Is he still droning on about the EU…..wonder if he works for them sctatchinghead


Read my post Snowy I was on about global economics, although I did ask what are the benefits of leaving the EU, even you can’t answer that ?


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Sussex UK wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
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The whole global economy has stalled not just the UK due to factors such as ongoing trade and policy uncertainty, escalating geopolitical tensions, and the potential for a double-shock combination of a trade war and kinetic conflict are hindering growth and increasing the risk of a global recession.


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You never Brexit once.What's going on ? sctatchinghead Are cracks appearing in your beloved EU?? sctatchinghead


Of course I didn’t we are talking about the global economy, what I mentioned is affecting the whole of the world including the EU. I think you stick to footy Sussex as you appear to be clueless when it comes to politics.
BTW I am still waiting for you to tell me what advantages you or the U.K. has had since we left the EU ? What happened to all those millions we don’t have to pay to the EU like the big bus saying we would save £350 million a week, where has that gone ?



You know all pros and the cons of membership...We decided we didn't want to bow to them anymore or keep getting fleeced with their never ending begging bowl..You come back with arguments that our musicians will find it hard to play in Europe,or that we have pay 6 euros at entry gates.. :laugh: :laugh: Are they still looking for us to cough up more for their march on Russia??How much have they fleeced out of Starmer on the side with feck all in return?


As is mentioned you are clueless when it comes to politics more so the whats involved in working and living in an EU country, check the facts before posting.
UK citizens no longer have the right to work or travel freely across the EU for work purposes, requiring work permits and visas for each country.
UK musicians face significant problems touring the EU post-Brexit due to the loss of free movement, resulting in increased costs for visas and work permits, complex customs procedures for equipment requiring carnets, and an overall reduction in performance opportunities and income. These hurdles, particularly for smaller acts, have led to fewer gigs, canceled tours, and a decline in the UK's creative industries, despite efforts to negotiate a more favorable agreement with the EU.


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Read my post Snowy I was on about global economics, although I did ask what are the benefits of leaving the EU, even you can’t answer that ?


Of course not, because I don’t care, it’s happened, move on and stop worrying over what ifs, no one cares……….enjoy your life, global economics too, like everyone else on here you are but a dot with no power, stop fighting and shouting in the wind.
No one’s listening.

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Read my post Snowy I was on about global economics, although I did ask what are the benefits of leaving the EU, even you can’t answer that ?


Of course not, because I don’t care, it’s happened, move on and stop worrying over what ifs, no one cares……….enjoy your life, global economics too, like everyone else on here you are but a dot with no power, stop fighting and shouting in the wind.
No one’s listening.


Snowy it doesn’t worry me, I take a great interest in global economics, it doesn’t affect me personally.The younger generation need to start listening, the rich are getting richer and the less well off are becoming poorer.
I watched a very interesting vlog about Trump, the Ukraine situation is taking the heat of him re the Epstein files, no way does he want them released 100%, too many names on them.The other point raised was his health swollen ankles difficulty walking and slurring his words, 78 years old, not much younger than Biden was when he was first elected.


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Trump-phobia, seek help. :wink:

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Trump-phobia, seek help. :wink:


I think the citizens of the States have Trump phobia but Vance is eagerly waiting in the wings though when he departs the planet.


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