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 Post subject: general election
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:37 am 
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If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for?

Labour

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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Reform.
If that offends the migrant lovers.
Tuff shit.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 8:32 am 
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Definitely Reform at this moment in time. This current governments priorities aren't my priorities.

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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Green.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Reform if you want a crash like the Truss tenure, Reforms figures for the economy just don’t add up, they would create a £50 billion black hole.
Me, maybe Tory as long as Badenoch wasn’t the leader,


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Reform if you want a crash like the Truss tenure, Reforms figures for the economy just don’t add up, they would create a £50 billion black hole.
Me, maybe Tory as long as Badenoch wasn’t the leader,


And the Labour and Tories figures have added up too have they.... hardly...

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 Post subject: Re: general election
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abstain for what jamie says and farage being a one trick publicity seeker.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Reform if you want a crash like the Truss tenure, Reforms figures for the economy just don’t add up, they would create a £50 billion black hole.
Me, maybe Tory as long as Badenoch wasn’t the leader,


And the Labour and Tories figures have added up too have they.... hardly...


You have a short memory what Truss did where the BofE had to bail the country out, interest rates went through the roof forcing mortgages up and they have still not returned to days pre Truss. What Reform are proposing is twice as bad as Truss did, you need to read up on Reforms agenda.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:49 am 
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Its 4 years off and it all will be different then............whatever that is???

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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Jamie1952 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Reform if you want a crash like the Truss tenure, Reforms figures for the economy just don’t add up, they would create a £50 billion black hole.
Me, maybe Tory as long as Badenoch wasn’t the leader,


And the Labour and Tories figures have added up too have they.... hardly...


You have a short memory what Truss did where the BofE had to bail the country out, interest rates went through the roof forcing mortgages up and they have still not returned to days pre Truss. What Reform are proposing is twice as bad as Truss did, you need to read up on Reforms agenda.


Thing is I feel Reform would react quickly to failing policies if something wasn't working by listening to what the people say, the current incumbents and their hapless predecessors would ignore that and plod along with their misguided strategies paying no attention to what the electorate think, hence they have become so unpopular (in fact hated) in such a short space of time.

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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Bluestreak wrote:
Its 4 years off and it all will be different then............whatever that is???

after labours great giveaway in there last year with people having short memories.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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The one trick pony tag -Maybe Farage can't stop the boats but i'm damn sure he'd make the UK a far less attractive proposition for those boat loads of benefit scrounging illegals thinking of coming our way....Farage listens to people,economic policies can be tweaked. Give him time, he'll get it right.. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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The one trick pony tag -Maybe Farage can't stop the boats but i'm damn sure he'd make the UK a far less attractive proposition for those boat loads of benefit scrounging illegals thinking of coming our way....Farage listens to people,economic policies can be tweaked. Give him time, he'll get it right.. :wink:


How is Farage going to stop the boats, it was his fault they started coming in the first place, keep repeating pre Brexit we could have sent them straight back, not now though.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
The one trick pony tag -Maybe Farage can't stop the boats but i'm damn sure he'd make the UK a far less attractive proposition for those boat loads of benefit scrounging illegals thinking of coming our way....Farage listens to people,economic policies can be tweaked. Give him time, he'll get it right.. :wink:


How is Farage going to stop the boats, it was his fault they started coming in the first place, keep repeating pre Brexit we could have sent them straight back, not now though.



The AMMR or Dublin Regulation as it was known-Who takes any notice of that in the EU?It doesn't work,it's in tatters,jamie..Have you not noticed? sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
The one trick pony tag -Maybe Farage can't stop the boats but i'm damn sure he'd make the UK a far less attractive proposition for those boat loads of benefit scrounging illegals thinking of coming our way....Farage listens to people,economic policies can be tweaked. Give him time, he'll get it right.. :wink:


How is Farage going to stop the boats, it was his fault they started coming in the first place, keep repeating pre Brexit we could have sent them straight back, not now though.


Farage wouldn't have a shitty soundbite quote like "stop the boats" anyway, anyone in their right mind knew that Starmer had no intention or means of conducting that particular ploy. Surprised he isn't putting more boats on for them.

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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Labour are now trying to rush through a bill to allow Palestinians to settle here.
Christ,most of the Arab country want nothing to do with them,but this bunch of loonies won’t to welcome them with open arms.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Looks like Reform could have a bit of opposition as 2 former members are talking about forming new partiy, Zia Yusef and Rupert Lowe


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Looks like Reform could have a bit of opposition as 2 former members are talking about forming new partiy, Zia Yusef and Rupert Lowe


Rupert Lowe should be the leader of reform......... Another party just plays into Liebours hands......... Splits the votes even more


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Reeves looked a broken woman yesterday.How long can she last in the job ? What a shambles of a party they are now.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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The founders of the Labour party must be turning in their graves. Led by an aristocrat, put 4000 pensioners at risk of an early death by withdrawing WFA (their own figures), wanting to put 150,000 benefit claimants into poverty (again their own figures), reducing standards of living for working and middles classes while refusing to tax the super wealthy more, etc
They're everything the party was set up to stand against.
Tory's are pretty much on a level.
Reform have no clue, mind it's turning out that Labour don't either, so maybe a wildcard shot worth chancing.
Greens are nothing more than the Raving Lunatic Party with their ideology.
The choice is bleak, the country's f*cked, it's just a matter of how fast we decline further.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Jules wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Looks like Reform could have a bit of opposition as 2 former members are talking about forming new partiy, Zia Yusef and Rupert Lowe


Rupert Lowe should be the leader of reform......... Another party just plays into Liebours hands......... Splits the votes even more

or ben habib either. cannot they learn from the london mayoral elections what vote splitting causes. farage did a good job by putting the illegal crossings into the public eye which the msm would never have done. that does not mean he is the ideal person to run a party or a country. he is not the first person from any party who can be described the same way.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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PTID wrote:
The founders of the Labour party must be turning in their graves. Led by an aristocrat, put 4000 pensioners at risk of an early death by withdrawing WFA (their own figures), wanting to put 150,000 benefit claimants into poverty (again their own figures), reducing standards of living for working and middles classes while refusing to tax the super wealthy more, etc
They're everything the party was set up to stand against.
Tory's are pretty much on a level.
Reform have no clue, mind it's turning out that Labour don't either, so maybe a wildcard shot worth chancing.
Greens are nothing more than the Raving Lunatic Party with their ideology.
The choice is bleak, the country's f*cked, it's just a matter of how fast we decline further.

You've got it in one. The country has been in decline for so long all any party can do is try to manage that decline. We have a population that is so selfish it only thinks what can the country do for me or how much can I get in handouts. Too many won't take responsibility for their own actions.The


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Reform. Even if Nige couldn’t stop the boats he’s stop the handouts. Members of the invading Islamic army would be in a tented city on Benbecula.


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Sussex UK wrote:
Reeves looked a broken woman yesterday.How long can she last in the job ? What a shambles of a party they are now.


Not Gunna slate her tears.
She's kept it private and we should respect that.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
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Reeves looked a broken woman yesterday.How long can she last in the job ? What a shambles of a party they are now.


Not Gunna slate her tears.
She's kept it private and we should respect that.



PMQ's time ain't the place to turn up feeling all emotional..And where was Rayner when she clearly needed help to get to the ladies room.


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Reform. Even if Nige couldn’t stop the boats he’s stop the handouts. Members of the invading Islamic army would be in a tented city on Benbecula.


The party who voted against Labours Workers Right Bill a few days ago which will ban zero hours contracts and the hire and fire scheme, yep they are definitely going to look after the working class.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Johnathan Pies take on Labours first year,
https://youtu.be/SpJhyyhuJrY?si=IZ1mX4Tf6E_azTvH


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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Meanwhile the vast majority of the electorate must be wishing their whole term was over not just their 1st year!!
14 years of being nothing more than a party of empty headed protest. And worse, a Labour Party deliberately targeting the most vulnerable in society while encouraging a growing gulf between the haves and have nots. Corbyn s lot will take a huge share of the Labour core. Look forward to a coalition next time around.


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I'm surprised Abbott hasn't jumped ship to join Corbyn...does she have a grape with Zarah Sultana raisin through the ranks? sctatchinghead


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Very good.


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if only we could turn back the clock to when labour were left of centre and the tories were right of it the country might be in a better shape or at least we might have an idea of where its going. all our hopes now are from new protest parties who will only get votes to bloody the nose of the two main ones.


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 Post subject: Re: general election
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accrington fan wrote:
if only we could turn back the clock to when labour were left of centre and the tories were right of it the country might be in a better shape or at least we might have an idea of where its going. all our hopes now are from new protest parties who will only get votes to bloody the nose of the two main ones.


As long as the MSM are right wing and the Murdoch owned press nothing will change, even if Labour were doing ok, The Express, Mail,Telegraph, GB News etc they would find fault some where.
People quote one of Reforms policies is no tax if you earn £20000 or less, even the living wage is more than that, they are going to fund it by taxing the rest at a higher rate. It will benefit the pensioners though. It has been mentioned many times by financial institutions that Reforms figure don’t add up and would create a bigger financial black hole than Truss mini budget. Yes vote for change but be careful what you wish for.


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Do you realise how ironic your last sentence is? Wasn't Starmers entire election campaign based on "Vote for change"?


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Do you realise how ironic your last sentence is? Wasn't Starmers entire election campaign based on "Vote for change"?


Well he has done, a change to not looking after the working class, isn’t that what the Labour Party of old used to do ?
Never will a left wing party be in power again like the old Labour, MSM will see to that.


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It'll be decades before you see a Labour government after this one.


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It'll be decades before you see a Labour government after this one.


How can you make a prediction like that, the Tories had 14 years, Labour 1 year, in 5 years will the electorate have forgotten all the 14 ‘good’ years of a Tory government. The Tories were against The Triple Lock, it would have been replaced, their policies would have been no different from Labour as Labour has adopted Toriy policies
There might be another Labour government in name only but not in principal a Labour Party which was founded on looking after the working class.


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The Tory's were offering "Triple Lock Plus" which ensured the state pension could never be taxed.
The Tory's wouldn't have scrapped WFA for all pensioners as Labour did (and Labour fought against in opposition)?
I'm making that prediction based on 12 months of incompetence, impending infighting within the Labour party, their previous history of almost bankrupting the country which they seem to be following again, their continuing persecution of the old and vulnerable, etc
Just a hunch Jamie!


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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It'll be decades before you see a Labour government after this one.


How can you make a prediction like that, the Tories had 14 years, Labour 1 year, in 5 years will the electorate have forgotten all the 14 ‘good’ years of a Tory government. The Tories were against The Triple Lock, it would have been replaced, their policies would have been no different from Labour as Labour has adopted Toriy policies
There might be another Labour government in name only but not in principal a Labour Party which was founded on looking after the working class.

its not being pedantic but the tories never had 14 years of power. there first term was a pact with the lib dems and that possibly made them more centralist in there next years on there own. then replaced by another centralist labour party. big question is will we ever see an old style labour or tory government again instead of like you say in name only. never has there been an easier time to cross the chamber to feel the same with your old opposition party.


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