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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:06 pm 
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Stupid Palestine Action fuckers wrecked planes used to deliver humanitarian aid. Thick as fuck arseholes.

I agree Imp. I'm pro Palestinian People but that was fucking ludicrous. Stupid stupid bastards!!! Hope they get caught and named and shamed. rakxe
But how the fuck did they get into RAF Brize Norton on fucking scooters?? sctatchinghead
Absolutely fucking mental,!!! rakxe


Yeah someone is going to get summoned into an office with their hat for a one way conversation.


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 10:44 am 
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And the Israelis know they risk destabilising by their pre-emptive strikes. If the US gets involved It won't be the end, other Super Powers will take a stance. It also keeps Netanyahu in power, he's out on his arse if the region calms down a bit.
F*cking dangerous world at present.


It is a very serious risk but it is a risk worth taking because the alternative is Iran with a nuclear weapon. This would not only mean the end of the state of Israel but most likely most of the world.

there has been many who wanted to see the end of the state of israel ever since it was created. the israelies know this and its not just in the arab world either. fashions have really changed in the west now where at one time you dare not say a single word against that country and how its run for the sake of being classed as anti sematic. it might be difficult for us to understand israel and there attitudes as we are not surrounded by enemy,s and those who want to see the place burnt down.


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:48 am 
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Israel is a Western style democracy and is friendly towards the West. They are surrounded by enemies who are also enemies of the West. Although I am not blind to Israel's serious shortcomings, when it comes to a choice between Jihadi nutters or a a friendly state, the choice seems obvious to me. Others in this country and indeed, on here, have a different opinion which I cannot for the life of me understand but I accept they have a right to their opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:25 pm 
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Oh,one other thing for you who feel sorry for poor old Iran.
Our intelligence services have foiled 20 Iranian backed terror attacking is on innocent UK civilians& it’s not rumour,its been admitted by the government


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:55 pm 
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As a Hartlepudlian exiled in the East Bank of Yackerland, I have some empathy with Israel.

The sporadic raids of the Scud Pigeons destroying my gutters with their shit-bombs, and the horrible loud music playing during the call to prayer from the clock tower in Peterlee which wakes me up nightly at precisely 2:12 am are almost unbearable.

And don't get me started about them whippets of mass destruction they've been breeding.

Shalom to all my Red Sea pedestrian brethren over there, I feel your pain.


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:58 pm 
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Kebab&chips wrote:
Oh,one other thing for you who feel sorry for poor old Iran.
Our intelligence services have foiled 20 Iranian backed terror attacking is on innocent UK civilians& it’s not rumour,its been admitted by the government


Interesting stuff. What a shame they are less bothered about protecting our military assests from these bastards. Didn't the Labour Minsister Of Defence describe the attack on the RAF planes as "Vandalism". Treating as if it was an attack on a bus shelter. WTF?


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:00 pm 
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Israel is a Western style democracy and is friendly towards the West. They are surrounded by enemies who are also enemies of the West. Although I am not blind to Israel's serious shortcomings, when it comes to a choice between Jihadi nutters or a a friendly state, the choice seems obvious to me. Others in this country and indeed, on here, have a different opinion which I cannot for the life of me understand but I accept they have a right to their opinion.

its fashion. go back 10 years no 5 and you would be hard pushed to find much anti israel stuff away from the debating halls of universities.


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:04 pm 
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Kebab&chips wrote:
Oh,one other thing for you who feel sorry for poor old Iran.
Our intelligence services have foiled 20 Iranian backed terror attacking is on innocent UK civilians& it’s not rumour,its been admitted by the government


Interesting stuff. What a shame they are less bothered about protecting our military assests from these bastards. Didn't the Labour Minsister Of Defence describe the attack on the RAF planes as "Vandalism". Treating as if it was an attack on a bus shelter. WTF?

and it will get buried as quickly as possible like burnt out buses and police vehicles i leeds before the trouble erupted a few days later in other areas of the country caused by a different demographic.


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:21 pm 
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Kebab&chips wrote:
Oh,one other thing for you who feel sorry for poor old Iran.
Our intelligence services have foiled 20 Iranian backed terror attacking is on innocent UK civilians& it’s not rumour,its been admitted by the government


Interesting stuff. What a shame they are less bothered about protecting our military assests from these bastards. Didn't the Labour Minsister Of Defence describe the attack on the RAF planes as "Vandalism". Treating as if it was an attack on a bus shelter. WTF?

In his mind it only is a bit of vandalism….in his mind, which probably won’t register till the bill comes in…and probably still won’t register in the pickled onion he has for brain.
….let’s see who the culprits are and anyone of non Uk origin deported ……this will surely involve prison sentences as an example to others fancying martyrdom.

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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:25 pm 
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It’s the nonstop imperialist wars of aggression waged by the US that is the problem.
The US is an authoritarian regime run on behalf of rich capitalists who profit from these wars of aggression, and need to keep waging them in order to continue their exploitation and maximize their rent extraction from the rest of the world.
It’s the US and the US alone that is responsible for the wars on Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Yugoslavia, Grenada, Panama, the list goes on and on.
If you acknowledge this, then you recognize that it is a deep, structural problem, and it can’t be reformed simply by voting harder for a different political candidate. It requires big change.
It's much easier to just blame Israel and say "Netanyahu is dragging us into war". That way, all you have to do is tell people, "Vote harder for the candidate who won't listen to Netanyahu".


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BarryHarris57 wrote:
It’s the nonstop imperialist wars of aggression waged by the US that is the problem.
The US is an authoritarian regime run on behalf of rich capitalists who profit from these wars of aggression, and need to keep waging them in order to continue their exploitation and maximize their rent extraction from the rest of the world.
It’s the US and the US alone that is responsible for the wars on Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Yugoslavia, Grenada, Panama, the list goes on and on.
If you acknowledge this, then you recognize that it is a deep, structural problem, and it can’t be reformed simply by voting harder for a different political candidate. It requires big change.
It's much easier to just blame Israel and say "Netanyahu is dragging us into war". That way, all you have to do is tell people, "Vote harder for the candidate who won't listen to Netanyahu".


Cut and paste from "The Socialist Worker"?


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No. It’s not. And what if it was? It’s basically as things stand. If you have a problem with the post I await your comments.
If you believe it’s cut and paste I await the link.


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
BarryHarris57 wrote:
It’s the nonstop imperialist wars of aggression waged by the US that is the problem.
The US is an authoritarian regime run on behalf of rich capitalists who profit from these wars of aggression, and need to keep waging them in order to continue their exploitation and maximize their rent extraction from the rest of the world.
It’s the US and the US alone that is responsible for the wars on Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Yugoslavia, Grenada, Panama, the list goes on and on.
If you acknowledge this, then you recognize that it is a deep, structural problem, and it can’t be reformed simply by voting harder for a different political candidate. It requires big change.
It's much easier to just blame Israel and say "Netanyahu is dragging us into war". That way, all you have to do is tell people, "Vote harder for the candidate who won't listen to Netanyahu".


Cut and paste from "The Socialist Worker"?

No...just common sense and a know how of how this World works.


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No. It’s not. And what if it was? It’s basically as things stand. If you have a problem with the post I await your comments.
If you believe it’s cut and paste I await the link.


Keep your hair on Comrade.


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
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BarryHarris57 wrote:
No. It’s not. And what if it was? It’s basically as things stand. If you have a problem with the post I await your comments.
If you believe it’s cut and paste I await the link.


1. I asked if it was cut and paste, I did not assert that it was. Hope that helps.
2. I have a problem with your post because I do not share your world view.
3."It's basically as things stand". Unbelievable arrogance. Why do you think you have a monopoly on what is true and what is not?
4. I believe your opinion is shit but I accept you have the right to believe what suits you but as I have stated, I cant stand this half-arsed evangelical idea that there is only one worthy opinion: yours.


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BarryHarris57 wrote:
No. It’s not. And what if it was? It’s basically as things stand. If you have a problem with the post I await your comments.
If you believe it’s cut and paste I await the link.


Keep your hair on Comrade.


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Actually more like Foxtrot Oscar, Comrade.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
BarryHarris57 wrote:
No. It’s not. And what if it was? It’s basically as things stand. If you have a problem with the post I await your comments.
If you believe it’s cut and paste I await the link.


1. I asked if it was cut and paste, I did not assert that it was. Hope that helps.
2. I have a problem with your post because I do not share your world view.
3."It's basically as things stand". Unbelievable arrogance. Why do you think you have a monopoly on what is true and what is not?
4. I believe your opinion is shit but I accept you have the right to believe what suits you but as I have stated, I cant stand this half-arsed evangelical idea that there is only one worthy opinion: yours.


Shame on you Ozzy. It could be entirely non-plagiarized bullshit.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
BarryHarris57 wrote:
No. It’s not. And what if it was? It’s basically as things stand. If you have a problem with the post I await your comments.
If you believe it’s cut and paste I await the link.


1. I asked if it was cut and paste, I did not assert that it was. Hope that helps.
2. I have a problem with your post because I do not share your world view.
3."It's basically as things stand". Unbelievable arrogance. Why do you think you have a monopoly on what is true and what is not?
4. I believe your opinion is shit but I accept you have the right to believe what suits you but as I have stated, I cant stand this half-arsed evangelical idea that there is only one worthy opinion: yours.


Shame on you Ozzy. It could be entirely non-plagiarized bullshit.

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Funny.


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Oddie and Imp in the same bed...I would never have guessed. :laugh: :shock: :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Israel Iran Conflict.
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its fashion. go back 10 years no 5 and you would be hard pushed to find much anti israel stuff away from the debating halls of universities.[/quote]


that's a point,mr accy..


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The world is now a much more dangerous place after the US bombs Iran, it gives any country the right to bomb anyone they want, no one takes notice of the UN well that’s if they ever did in the past.


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Jamie, Think most know what Trump is about.

BUT there is no way Iran could be left to their own devices.
That imo would have made the world far more dangerous, It also spells it out to others.


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The world is now a much more dangerous place after the US bombs Iran, it gives any country the right to bomb anyone they want, no one takes notice of the UN well that’s if they ever did in the past.


Nah. These things have happened before (not very often but they have). It never gave any country the right to bomb any other. People do take notice of the UN, just some countries can afford to take less notice. Always been the case. In this context, there is barely any difference from the world we live in now to that in which you grew up.


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The world is now a much more dangerous place after the US bombs Iran, it gives any country the right to bomb anyone they want, no one takes notice of the UN well that’s if they ever did in the past.


Nah. These things have happened before (not very often but they have). It never gave any country the right to bomb any other. People do take notice of the UN, just some countries can afford to take less notice. Always been the case. In this context, there is barely any difference from the world we live in now to that in which you grew up.


I find myself agreeing with Pooly Imp again. Whatever next?


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This bombing has been going on since the 70’s
It happens every time the Iranians got near to achieving their target, then they became the target.
The Iranians with a nuclear bomb presents many ‘difficulties’.
The world has taken no interest all these years, apart from some states complaining briefly, but it has became taken for granted.
I suppose investing all that money in something else might have been a wiser choice in the long run.
Pity we can’t uninvent nuclear weapons, but would bloodier conventional wars have followed ?

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Thank you America. The world is now a much safer place having removed the mad mullahs chance of obtaining nuclear weapons. Don’t forget however Pakistan have them.


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There is no way we can even contemplate allowing Iran free rein to develop a nuclear threat.

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