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Looks like that bridge to Crimea has been hit now!!


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Looks like that bridge to Crimea has been hit now!!

Not a place to plan a touring holiday. sadx

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Still better than Benidorm!


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BarryHarris57 wrote:
Ukraines one and a half year long operation to attack Russian strategic bombers
Russia will replace / repair the units lost and damaged. Security and countermeasures will be tightened
Meanwhile, on the frontlines, Russias unstoppable advance continues.


Barry, could I just ask you, do you think Putin's election win was fair?


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Infidel wrote:
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Ukraines one and a half year long operation to attack Russian strategic bombers
Russia will replace / repair the units lost and damaged. Security and countermeasures will be tightened
Meanwhile, on the frontlines, Russias unstoppable advance continues.


Barry, could I just ask you, do you think Putin's election win was fair?


In the land with one candidate you always get the biggest turnout of voters.

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Ukraines one and a half year long operation to attack Russian strategic bombers
Russia will replace / repair the units lost and damaged. Security and countermeasures will be tightened
Meanwhile, on the frontlines, Russias unstoppable advance continues.


Barry, could I just ask you, do you think Putin's election win was fair?


In the land with one candidate you always get the biggest turnout of voters.


63% ? bbolt

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Since the demise of the Soviet Union the USA, has reflected a shocking arrogance towards Russia. They have felt that they could act with impunity, unilaterally, abandon all treaty frameworks and agreements and that arrogance arose with the US belief that it could do as it pleased, whether that meant launching wars, engaging in coups and assassinations and abandoning the nuclear arms framework. This latest attack was that.
They are playing a very dangerous game. The attack has the US’s fingerprints all over it.
I’m not here to wind anyone up. I’m stating what I believe are facts and I welcome opposite views in any context.


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BarryHarris57 wrote:
Since the demise of the Soviet Union the USA, has reflected a shocking arrogance towards Russia. They have felt that they could act with impunity, unilaterally, abandon all treaty frameworks and agreements and that arrogance arose with the US belief that it could do as it pleased, whether that meant launching wars, engaging in coups and assassinations and abandoning the nuclear arms framework. This latest attack was that.
They are playing a very dangerous game. The attack has the US’s fingerprints all over it.
I’m not here to wind anyone up. I’m stating what I believe are facts and I welcome opposite views in any context.


What about my question above Barry? Re Putin.


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derwent wrote:
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BarryHarris57 wrote:
Ukraines one and a half year long operation to attack Russian strategic bombers
Russia will replace / repair the units lost and damaged. Security and countermeasures will be tightened
Meanwhile, on the frontlines, Russias unstoppable advance continues.


You heard it folks. Ivan the expert has spoken
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Moderator! Could you do the honours and boot the bot? Booting efficiency is pretty good in here these days.


I don't think we're at that point yet Mr Imp. He may just be winding you up. I wonder where he might have learned that skill. :wink:
He's got a point of view and puts it across whilst respecting the points of view of others. A bit more tolerance?????? Maybe. I'd like to see how it pans out before firing the gun.
Should you be unhappy with my response so far, you have recourse to present your case to the owner of the board.


Fair comment. If you banned every poster basing their 'point of view' on unsubstantiated bollocks then you'd wear out your boot button pretty quickly.


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 Post subject: Re: Well done Ukraine...
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BarryHarris57 wrote:
Since the demise of the Soviet Union the USA, has reflected a shocking arrogance towards Russia. They have felt that they could act with impunity, unilaterally, abandon all treaty frameworks and agreements and that arrogance arose with the US belief that it could do as it pleased, whether that meant launching wars, engaging in coups and assassinations and abandoning the nuclear arms framework. This latest attack was that.
They are playing a very dangerous game. The attack has the US’s fingerprints all over it.
I’m not here to wind anyone up. I’m stating what I believe are facts and I welcome opposite views in any context.


Certainly criticism could be aimed at the USA and probably every single country of any significance to the world order. But when you do it to a background of playing the violin for Putin then you've just lost all your credibility in one go. An utterly evil regime lead by a man who wrote the book on evil bastardry.

I suggest that the man who barely dares to leave his bunker is the one who needs to be careful and it's easy to see that he knows that too.


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BarryHarris57 wrote:
Since the demise of the Soviet Union the USA, has reflected a shocking arrogance towards Russia. They have felt that they could act with impunity, unilaterally, abandon all treaty frameworks and agreements and that arrogance arose with the US belief that it could do as it pleased, whether that meant launching wars, engaging in coups and assassinations and abandoning the nuclear arms framework. This latest attack was that.
They are playing a very dangerous game. The attack has the US’s fingerprints all over it.
I’m not here to wind anyone up. I’m stating what I believe are facts and I welcome opposite views in any context.

Fair enough but why invade Ukraine twice and target the innocent population??


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MutleyRules wrote:
BarryHarris57 wrote:
Since the demise of the Soviet Union the USA, has reflected a shocking arrogance towards Russia. They have felt that they could act with impunity, unilaterally, abandon all treaty frameworks and agreements and that arrogance arose with the US belief that it could do as it pleased, whether that meant launching wars, engaging in coups and assassinations and abandoning the nuclear arms framework. This latest attack was that.
They are playing a very dangerous game. The attack has the US’s fingerprints all over it.
I’m not here to wind anyone up. I’m stating what I believe are facts and I welcome opposite views in any context.

Fair enough but why invade Ukraine twice and target the innocent population??


Watch Russian TV and you'll have as many clap trap excuses as you like. Sadly some people who Jane zero excuses end parroting them. Stand by for that.


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MutleyRules wrote:
BarryHarris57 wrote:
Since the demise of the Soviet Union the USA, has reflected a shocking arrogance towards Russia. They have felt that they could act with impunity, unilaterally, abandon all treaty frameworks and agreements and that arrogance arose with the US belief that it could do as it pleased, whether that meant launching wars, engaging in coups and assassinations and abandoning the nuclear arms framework. This latest attack was that.
They are playing a very dangerous game. The attack has the US’s fingerprints all over it.
I’m not here to wind anyone up. I’m stating what I believe are facts and I welcome opposite views in any context.

Fair enough but why invade Ukraine twice and target the innocent population??

Russia is not indiscriminately killing anyone. If it was "Targetting civillians" they would be dying in their tens of thousands a week.


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Absolutely mental World today. Thanks Trump, Farage, Johnson etc etc etc. clappp clappp


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BarryHarris57 wrote:
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BarryHarris57 wrote:
Since the demise of the Soviet Union the USA, has reflected a shocking arrogance towards Russia. They have felt that they could act with impunity, unilaterally, abandon all treaty frameworks and agreements and that arrogance arose with the US belief that it could do as it pleased, whether that meant launching wars, engaging in coups and assassinations and abandoning the nuclear arms framework. This latest attack was that.
They are playing a very dangerous game. The attack has the US’s fingerprints all over it.
I’m not here to wind anyone up. I’m stating what I believe are facts and I welcome opposite views in any context.

Fair enough but why invade Ukraine twice and target the innocent population??

Russia is not indiscriminately killing anyone. If it was "Targetting civillians" they would be dying in their tens of thousands a week.

So why are they dropping bombs and targeting Civilian areas?? Why aren't they doing what the Ukraine are doing and targeting military hardware??
Next you'll be shouting for Israel for bombing 'Food Banks'!!!! Kin'ell!!!


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BarryHarris57 wrote:
MutleyRules wrote:
BarryHarris57 wrote:
Since the demise of the Soviet Union the USA, has reflected a shocking arrogance towards Russia. They have felt that they could act with impunity, unilaterally, abandon all treaty frameworks and agreements and that arrogance arose with the US belief that it could do as it pleased, whether that meant launching wars, engaging in coups and assassinations and abandoning the nuclear arms framework. This latest attack was that.
They are playing a very dangerous game. The attack has the US’s fingerprints all over it.
I’m not here to wind anyone up. I’m stating what I believe are facts and I welcome opposite views in any context.

Fair enough but why invade Ukraine twice and target the innocent population??

Russia is not indiscriminately killing anyone. If it was "Targetting civillians" they would be dying in their tens of thousands a week.


Its OK I'll answer it for you. They can't mass bomb because their planes would get nailed by F-16s or Patriots etc... they have to rely on cruise missiles and drones. They're still going into tower blocks and markets etc....


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Barry is ignoring me. He won’t answer my question.


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Barry is ignoring me. He won’t answer my question.


A tough question, put him on the spot.


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Barry I'm assuming you live in the UK somewhere...if you had a choice would you rather live where you are now or would you rather live in Russia??
Serious question. Take your time to answer if you want...but please at some point answer the question. Ta.


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Absolutely mental World today. Thanks Trump, Farage, Johnson etc etc etc. clappp clappp



Farage only has to grin and Starmer has a meltdown. :wink: on other news you EU lovers must be chuffed to bits with the new Trump- backed president of Poland.Well done Poland!!


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Barry I'm assuming you live in the UK somewhere...if you had a choice would you rather live where you are now or would you rather live in Russia??
Serious question. Take your time to answer if you want...but please at some point answer the question. Ta.


Disappeared again. Hopefully listening to some podcasts and getting a more balanced view. It's all out there these days.


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MutleyRules wrote:
BarryHarris57 wrote:
MutleyRules wrote:
BarryHarris57 wrote:
Since the demise of the Soviet Union the USA, has reflected a shocking arrogance towards Russia. They have felt that they could act with impunity, unilaterally, abandon all treaty frameworks and agreements and that arrogance arose with the US belief that it could do as it pleased, whether that meant launching wars, engaging in coups and assassinations and abandoning the nuclear arms framework. This latest attack was that.
They are playing a very dangerous game. The attack has the US’s fingerprints all over it.
I’m not here to wind anyone up. I’m stating what I believe are facts and I welcome opposite views in any context.

Fair enough but why invade Ukraine twice and target the innocent population??

Russia is not indiscriminately killing anyone. If it was "Targetting civillians" they would be dying in their tens of thousands a week.

So why are they dropping bombs and targeting Civilian areas?? Why aren't they doing what the Ukraine are doing and targeting military hardware??
Next you'll be shouting for Israel for bombing 'Food Banks'!!!! Kin'ell!!!

They are not carpet bombing civilian areas, my answer above states the obvious. Putin is not Netanyahu.
The Kiev regime is actually the one using civilians as human shields. If a Russian drone kills a couple civilians, there’s global uproar, but when Israel consciously blows thousands of children to pieces with no remorse, it’s labeled as collateral damage.


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Barry is overlooking certain questions it seems.


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Barry is overlooking certain questions it seems.

Maybe one of his ‘circuits’ in his head is overheating.

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Yep, maybe.

Some of the wordage he uses seems odd too.

But what do I know?


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His presentation is stilted and he moves between minor topics in a unbalanced way…almost like a news report, doesn’t flow naturally at all.

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His presentation is stilted and he moves between minor topics in a unbalanced way…almost like a news report, doesn’t flow naturally at all.


Does seem quite flakey. Perhaps it's a language problem, try Russian or maybe binary.


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His presentation is stilted and he moves between minor topics in a unbalanced way…almost like a news report, doesn’t flow naturally at all.


Does seem quite flakey. Perhaps it's a language problem, try Russian or maybe binary.

I blame the Cryllic alphabet….. :laugh:

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Is this Barry cuddling up to the lovely Dee. D. Jackson. And who can blame him, I'd love to.


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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHblXn7yHEXDdMVRYfUDI9IH4FnvkBaRsRXOfOekHu_NYNd6V-iOc-tkA&s

Is this Barry cuddling up to the lovely Dee. D. Jackson. And who can blame him, I'd love to.


Bleep bloop.


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I have been reading about the liberation of Kherson. It’s quite telling that the government building recently hit by Russian missiles has dissected. But no. This is not the response to the attack on the air bases or the the attacks on the bridges that killed seven civilians. This response has yet to come. And, if you think the recent attacks on Kherson and Kiev were devastating I would not like to think of what the next one is going to be like.
It’s time for Zelensky to depart, although he should be arrested and put on trial for war crimes. For not only against the Russian population but also for his reckless and foolhardy decisions that have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands soldiers.
The special military operation is almost completed. Sumy is next and if desired, a march to Kiev could be the final stage.
There’ll be no more peace talks. Putin will not negotiate with a terrorist organisation of which Ukraine now is.
Never ever throw stones at a nuclear power as large as Russia. There will only be one outcome.


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WTF....Zelensky a War Criminal and Putin isn't?? :laugh: :laugh:


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Correct. Zelensky has had numerous opportunities to prevent this. Minsk one and Minsk two. Plus, the 2022 Istanbul agreement which, was all set to be agreed on until Boris Johnson advised Zelensky to fight to defeat Russia.
Putin has been warning the west since 2014 and the CIA organised overthrow of Viktor Yanukovych to back off.
NATO believed they could basically do what they wanted to and stuck the two fingers up at Putin.
It is also clear that Britain needs chaos on the European continent more than anyone else. The medieval tendency to hunt witches and the desire to control everything by pitting people against each other has not yet been eradicated from its political class.


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Get down to reality. Putin is trying to re-assemble the Soviet Union as was, since Gorbachev’s actions basically dismantled the original territory.
If a country like Belarus is compliant and agrees with them he leaves them alone.
His actions are nothing more than annexing those who won’t dance to his tune.
Putin’s response has been clumsy and aggressive…and the realisation that his military is incapable of taking Ukraine presents him with a massive problem…which he obviously can’t figure out…..hence this pointless conflict.
Ukraine did not invade Russia.

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WTF....Zelensky a War Criminal and Putin isn't?? :laugh: :laugh:

possibly the whole truth lies somewhere in between. like the palestine/israel conflict we only know what the media want to tell us. when they show bias to one side over the other you are bound to get the population siding with the side who the bias is in favour with.


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Get down to reality. Putin is trying to re-assemble the Soviet Union as was, since Gorbachev’s actions basically dismantled the original territory.
If a country like Belarus is compliant and agrees with them he leaves them alone.
His actions are nothing more than annexing those who won’t dance to his tune.
Putin’s response has been clumsy and aggressive…and the realisation that his military is incapable of taking Ukraine presents him with a massive problem…which he obviously can’t figure out…..hence this pointless conflict.
Ukraine did not invade Russia.

Putin is not trying to reassemble the Soviet Union. He had no desire. He has enough on his plate being president of one.
He has never threatened any of the states that were part of the break up of the union, if he desired, he could have taken the opportunity to invade while they were still at a weak point just after.
He annexed Crimea of whom 93% voted to stay within the Russian federation.
Russia invaded Ukraine yes, but there are many valid reasons why which are much available if you look in the right places.
Putin is a god fearing, respectable family man who cares deeply for the Russian people.


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Putin is not trying to reassemble the Soviet Union. He had no desire.He has enough on his plate being president of one.
Has he told you personally, for a man with ‘zero desire’ I’d hate to see him with a cob on.

He has never threatened any of the states that were part of the break up of the union, if he desired, he could have taken the opportunity to invade while they were still at a weak point just after.
A weak point…? It looks like he’s the weak, point…mind you, Ukraine having atomic weapons at the time might have influenced his restraint…so he negotiates their removal then puts the boot in.

He annexed Crimea of whom 93% voted to stay within the Russian federation.
‘Annexed’ ….sounds so less aggressive than ‘invaded’ don’t you agree?
Who counted the ballot papers, now let me guess…..was there two choices ..STAY ..or…REMAIN…?


Russia invaded Ukraine yes, but there are many valid reasons why which are much available if you look in the right places.
You give me then, I really can’t be arsed to be led up the Garden path

Putin is a god fearing, respectable family man who cares deeply for the Russian people.
Which Putin are you referring to, this sounds like the Right Reverend Dave Putin, Vicar of St Vladimir’s in the Kremlin


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Snowy wrote:
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Putin is not trying to reassemble the Soviet Union. He had no desire.He has enough on his plate being president of one.
Has he told you personally, for a man with ‘zero desire’ I’d hate to see him with a cob on.

He has never threatened any of the states that were part of the break up of the union, if he desired, he could have taken the opportunity to invade while they were still at a weak point just after.
A weak point…? It looks like he’s the weak, point…mind you, Ukraine having atomic weapons at the time might have influenced his restraint…so he negotiates their removal then puts the boot in.

He annexed Crimea of whom 93% voted to stay within the Russian federation.
‘Annexed’ ….sounds so less aggressive than ‘invaded’ don’t you agree?
Who counted the ballot papers, now let me guess…..was there two choices ..STAY ..or…REMAIN…?


Russia invaded Ukraine yes, but there are many valid reasons why which are much available if you look in the right places.
You give me then, I really can’t be arsed to be led up the Garden path

Putin is a god fearing, respectable family man who cares deeply for the Russian people.
Which Putin are you referring to, this sounds like the Right Reverend Dave Putin, Vicar of St Vladimir’s in the Kremlin


Wind up.

It’s not a wind up. It’s fact. You believe what you want to believe but it won’t change the outcome of the war.
If you ever get the inclination watch Oliver’s Stones 3 part documentary with Putin. It is a damn more insightful and honest about the man than what you hear from the western propaganda machine.


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It’s not a wind up. It’s fact. You believe what you want to believe but it won’t change the outcome of the war.
If you ever get the inclination watch Oliver’s Stones 3 part documentary with Putin. It is a damn more insightful and honest about the man than what you hear from the western propaganda machine.


When one large country keeps invading another smaller country repeatedly over a number of years…it’s not hard to identify the aggressor and the victim….and the intent.
Case closed.

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Alexei Navalny and Salisbury. Case closed. Now toddle of Lord Haw Haw.


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Barry "He has never threatened any of the states that were part of the break up of the union"

The Russo-Georgia War. From Wiki...

The August 2008 Russo-Georgian War, also known as the Russian invasion of Georgia,[note 3] was a war waged against Georgia by the Russian Federation and the Russian-backed separatist regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The fighting took place in the strategically important South Caucasus region. It is regarded as the first European war of the 21st century.[31]


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Barry is getting more and more far fetched. Got to be a wind up.


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 Post subject: Re: Well done Ukraine...
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Pooly_Imp wrote:
Barry is getting more and more far fetched. Got to be a wind up.

I reckon he’s Vladimir Heckingbottom..on Moscow TV channel Cabbage TV.

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