Has this become a real joke now that seems sponsored by the BBC. Years back it was a must watch show that seemed to have been taken over by drag queens and overblown sets with little about songs or music.

It's a Gay fest with tunes.

Leaving the Gay bit to one side, in previous years some of the songs have been passable. After a couple of listens there's normally between 5 and 10 that are quite clever and catchy.

I usually have a big think and place bets on the top ten, and over the last ten years I have done quite well (not big money) however this year it is a dismal bunch, a lot of the songs seem dismal, and very similar.

I also don't like the fact that all the music now is pre recorded, the singers are basically singing along to a backing track like a glorified karaoke.

Indeed, a flagrant festival of poofery.

It's a bit of a joke but certainly it's more entertaining than the old days when it was more like watching Come Dancing on the tele.

I can live with the poofery and the thunder thighed humongous women artists with equally large lips. But not with the horrendous 'songs' which are as Infidel says very samey and totally lacking in melody. I managed to extract half a dozen listenable songs and two of those didn't even make the Final. It's still entertaining though, much more so than the regular UK Saturday night 'entertainment'.

I'd pay good money to see Farage singing "Rule Brittania".

The irony being that any self-respecting cocoa shunter would run a mile from owt like that.

Oh, and before I'm accused of some sort of "ism", the above comment applies equally to the clam jousters...

What started out as a genuine talent contest has turned into a political woke contest. Absolute garbage!

How about like me you are "Normalism"

How dare you stereotype me..??? I'm writing to The Guardian about you, ya reactionary old bastard...!!!

And texting that bewer out of The Nolans on Loose-fannied Women...

Would imagine any one out of the Nolans would be very loose by now.

Think at least half of them are toes up- so not somewhere any self respecting person would want to go

About 170 mlllion people watch Eurovision every year. I feel a tiny number of people here, harking back to acts and attitudes last seen decades ago, won’t stop anyone’s enjoyment. I’m happy that it brings happiness to many people and am not sure why anyone else would want otherwise.

I listened to Sara Cox doing the coverage on Radio 2. That way the staging/ performance visuals don't matter. She delivers some most amusing comments. I'll watch the final tonight and shall enjoy it with some good food and wine. After all, it is just entertainment and by next month it won't matter to me who did what. It is their job, not mine. There is still plenty of football going on too... just none involving Pools.

Aye,what would Katie Boyle have made of it all .She would have walked off.None of this Botox and rubber lips on her like these modern day presenters eh.

just wonder if claire balding is commentating on this as well or has she another gig stopping her.

‘Happiness’ to many people……in what way, surely not musically…

Some crank wins with tedious exhibitionism or the East Europeans get together and vote for some goat herding ditty they sang back in the good old days when they worked in ‘Barbed wire factory 27’ in The 70’s in the Eastern Bloc….

i,d guess the ones watching will be mostly the same ones who watch anything thats get pushed and pushed by the media especially to increase there viewing figures.

Aye, just a musical soap opera…or a political opera at times……. If a donkey could sing, it would stand a chance..

About 170 trillion flies eat shit every day, and I won't be doing that either.

I believe that the one on Loser Wimmen is the youngest, she is 60 but looks more like 70 so hardly a good example of fame and fortune keeping one young and beautiful!

TRUE STORY: In the late 1980s, I met Linda Nolan at a trade show in Blackpool when I worked in the fruit-machine industry.

She was the very hot blonde with massive tits, and was dressed accordingly in one of the tightest, skimpiest black minidresses I've ever cum in me pants over. It's still the most checked-out memory in my wank bank.

I also met the little baldy gadgie out of the 70s version of The Drifters. He heard my accent, and gave me two free tickets to their show in Houghton-le-spring the following Thursday.

To date, I have not tossed myself off while thinking of him.....

Russia must be gutted that they are not in it.
This is what Trump is relying on to bring them to the negotiation table.

Lots more real women in leotards this year. Some of them should not be in leotards but hey ho, if they insist.
A Finnish woman singing in German about having an orgasm. Popular appeal.

Having watched the ESC final I certainly wouldnt like to see those 'real women' OUT of their leotards - strictly Benny Hill stuff for sure.

I was pleased to see Israel got so many votes from the European public they finished second and came close to winning. Must have annoyed the liberal lefties who seem to think everyone agrees on their view on Gaza. Cheered me up no end.

Yeah it's great fun starving children.

true, but whatever your opinions on the contest its not a political tv programme.

Indeed it is, and a vital part of their upbringing.

And the lack of it nowadays is why I get to eat all them yummy sprouts at Christmas...

I agree Ozzy - but how did they manage to garner so many votes - and how out of touch are all of the 'judges'? I shouted 'fix' at the time - but that may have been the Saturday evening refreshments taking their toll.

it does show how times and fashions can quickly change. once israel were the darlings and you had to be very careful indeed to criticise that country, have your facts spot on before the words anti semite were thrown at you. many could not differentiate between a state itself and the jewish population. now people like jeremy corbyn have become main stream in this pro palestine anti israel thing. it must be a worry for some that votes are just about a song and politics were taken out of it for once.

It's all about virtue signalling, it's trendy and wokey to back the Palestinian cause. Here in the UK if you don't 100% back Zelensky you are some kind of Russian bot or monster. It takes two sides to make a conflict and it's not always plain black and white.

The phrase Eurovision and ‘everyone’s entry’ fills me with dread.

Eurovision is a camp nativity play without the nativity.
A sort of TV version of major road works event on the motorway that is best avoided at all costs

The only way to win it is to enter the wokiest, gayest wierdo who sings like a strangled cat singing the worst song ever. Just like the one that won it this year. It,s now trash t.v.

but millions will tune in and watch it with many doing it to have a moan afterwards. more or less the laugh is on them and not the artists or those running the show. if viewers used there control and everyone turned it off it would end up as a tv programme from the past but remembered for its bad rather than good days.

Come on Blue, you and your guitar will walk it next year!!!!

It's so gay that Marc Almond would come last for being too macho.

I'm defo not Wokey I.m defo not Gay! I can be a little bit weird sometimes and I definitely can,t sing so I fail two of the qualifying necessities. It would be good fun to crank up a Plexi Marshall stack with my Les Paul and blow them all off stage though.

What, not even a bit of a brown hatter..?

Like Julian Clary...

Well I can't complain about the ESC as I had an each way bet on Estonia to finish top 4 at 40/1, they finished 3rd, it could have been even better as I also took Italy who finished 5th at 100/1 each way.

For some reason Eurovision is what I imagine the Lib Dems Xmas Karaoke night would be like…all those smug middle class ideas of a good night out.

that would be better than the green parties christmas buffet that most likely be minus pork pies and sausage rolls and sandwiches with those wierd vegetable things in.

Why do they try and dress up their food to imitate something they avoid…vegan sausage rolls for example…..just give it another bloody name and stop copying something you abhor.

just wonder how many are actually closet meat eaters especially the ones who are following the latest fad and not involved in it for health or medical reasons. lets have a carnivore carrot and kale to redress the balance. just something smug and self righteous about them and cyclists like vine who spend so much time telling us how right they are.