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accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19429

Leggie43 wrote:

horden wrote:

MutleyRules wrote:

Here you go...

The NATO Alliance consists of 30 member states from North America and Europe. Article Five of the treaty states that if an armed attack occurs against one of the member states, it should be considered an attack against all members, and other members shall assist the attacked member, with armed forces if necessary.

Which begs the question, why are we assisting Ukraine then, as they are neither a member of NATO or even the EU.

That's my thoughts exactly Horden 100 %. They will never be allowed membership of NATO and they know that and so do NATO members. The whole thing has been manoeuvred into place by greedy selfish money making corporations. The public have been totally mislead and manipulated into believing one side of the story is fact and the other bullshit. banghead

minipulated the same way to thinking everything russian and the previous soviet union being bad right back to WW2 where it was the yanks who ventually won that war and the russians did little to help it reach that conclusion. deaths of their miletary and civilians were i suppose propaganda from uncle joe and were necessary for the final outcome.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3723

Jamie1952 wrote:

PTID wrote:

Starmer and his cronies have shown more concern and compassion towards Ukrainians and boat arrivals than for pensioners that's beyond question. More interested in costing up to the EU than forging a relationship with his own citizens.
Reform will piss the next General Election / protest vote even without coherent policies or competent candidates. Shows how poor our democracy has become.

Why are billionaires lining up to back Reform, they won’t a party who look after the working class, money people never do.
https://youtu.be/UUePBo63zhQ?si=QVRcfgrCoX7ZRjCE

So who is going to "look after" the working class, these days? Certainly isnt the Labour party who are more interested in flooding the country with third world people to the absolute detriment of working class Brits. A party that is determined to end this fookin abomination seems a very attractive option to a large number of voters.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7276

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

PTID wrote:

Starmer and his cronies have shown more concern and compassion towards Ukrainians and boat arrivals than for pensioners that's beyond question. More interested in costing up to the EU than forging a relationship with his own citizens.
Reform will piss the next General Election / protest vote even without coherent policies or competent candidates. Shows how poor our democracy has become.

Why are billionaires lining up to back Reform, they won’t a party who look after the working class, money people never do.
https://youtu.be/UUePBo63zhQ?si=QVRcfgrCoX7ZRjCE

So who is going to "look after" the working class, these days? Certainly isnt the Labour party who are more interested in flooding the country with third world people to the absolute detriment of working class Brits. A party that is determined to end this fookin abomination seems a very attractive option to a large number of voters.

No party is going to look after the working class as none of the current politicians know what it’s like to work in a job as they all come straight from uni straight into politics.
Anyone who thinks Reform will be a benefit to the working class are going to be disappointed as the rich look after their own.
Richard Tice now going to be splitting his time between Dubai and the U.K. as his wife Isabel Oakshott has moved there, he won’t spending much time in his constituency and Parliament then will he ?

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3500

Any photos of our man Farage quaffing the finest of champagne with his mate Trump at the big party,jamie??

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7276

Sussex UK wrote:

Any photos of our man Farage quaffing the finest of champagne with his mate Trump at the big party,jamie??

Trump is tee total so I doubt it plus if there were any photos I wouldn’t know how to upload them.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3500

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Any photos of our man Farage quaffing the finest of champagne with his mate Trump at the big party,jamie??

Trump is tee total so I doubt it plus if there were any photos I wouldn’t know how to upload them.

Would have been nice if Starmer and Raynor had at least been invited to wait on at the tables today,jamie..?

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19429

Jamie1952 wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

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So who is going to "look after" the working class, these days? Certainly isnt the Labour party who are more interested in flooding the country with third world people to the absolute detriment of working class Brits. A party that is determined to end this fookin abomination seems a very attractive option to a large number of voters.

No party is going to look after the working class as none of the current politicians know what it’s like to work in a job as they all come straight from uni straight into politics.
Anyone who thinks Reform will be a benefit to the working class are going to be disappointed as the rich look after their own.
Richard Tice now going to be splitting his time between Dubai and the U.K. as his wife Isabel Oakshott has moved there, he won’t spending much time in his constituency and Parliament then will he ?

in my lifetime i do not think any party has ever looked after the so called working class. some have given us more crumbs from the table than others in the last 70 odd years. its a case of many feeling more comfortable under labour even if they have nothing to show for it.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37122

The Conservatives are just cats in a bag fighting.
Labour are just a load of middle class fantasists who have as much sense of what it means to be working class as the Pope.
The Lib Dems represent the voice of the comfy idealists….. smug.
We’re in the clarts.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37122

horden wrote:

MutleyRules wrote:

Here you go...

The NATO Alliance consists of 30 member states from North America and Europe. Article Five of the treaty states that if an armed attack occurs against one of the member states, it should be considered an attack against all members, and other members shall assist the attacked member, with armed forces if necessary.

Which begs the question, why are we assisting Ukraine then, as they are neither a member of NATO or even the EU.

I long for the days of the Cold War, we knew where we all stood….and I’m serious.

elwood · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:31 pm **Posts:** 240

Snowy wrote:

I long for the days of the Cold War, we knew where we all stood….and I’m serious.

Yep, once the Capitalists had proof that the Socialist model wasn't being swallowed by the majority of the World they rubbed their hands together and started piling the profits up at the expense of the working people.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37122

elwood wrote:

Snowy wrote:

I long for the days of the Cold War, we knew where we all stood….and I’m serious.

Yep, once the Capitalists had proof that the Socialist model wasn't being swallowed by the majority of the World they rubbed their hands together and started piling the profits up at the expense of the working people.

Nearly right.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3723

elwood wrote:

Snowy wrote:

I long for the days of the Cold War, we knew where we all stood….and I’m serious.

Yep, once the Capitalists had proof that the Socialist model wasn't being swallowed by the majority of the World they rubbed their hands together and started piling the profits up at the expense of the working people.

A seriously twisted view but each unto their own,I suppose.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19429

just thinking about the working class. for years many have hated to be described like that and would call themselves anything but especially their wives. a nation of snobs and cap doffers to their so called betters in their eyes plus royalty.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37122

In reference to the origins of this post….if Musk had been backing Starmer ( :laugh:

) this topic would not have existed.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:29 am

Snowy wrote:

In reference to the origins of this post….if Musk had been backing Starmer ( :laugh:

) this topic would not have existed.

Oh I think it would like 100%

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