So just forget about it and sweep it under the carpet again because Musk got involved?
If there was nothing to see here nobody would be calling for a further inquiry, but guess what even Jess Philips has said if the victims want one then there should be one.

They're picking holes in those previous inquiries,and the lack of them.It's all unfolding as we speak...You're not aware of this?

Nah I wouldn't like. He's got absolutely nothing to do with this Country. Even if what he was saying was true...it's still fuck all to do with him. Crank.

Kin'ell...you are fast becoming the most gullible poster in the history of the bunker.
Raj and now Musk. You couldn't make it up. Crank.

Wtf you on about, I've said much of what Musk says is bullshit so where's the gullibility?
You stick to believing the fountain of all truths that is Starmer, you couldn't make it up.

What’s so strange about this inquiry and action needed now is the last one lasted 7 years. Virtually nothing was actioned by the Conservatives, maybe this inquiry can be rushed through in say 5 years which knack all gets done.

Of course you have. Crank.

Was on gbnews 80% of Muslims vote Labour.

I wonder why!!!

The tories n now Labour will continue to be anti English.
Must be the only country in the world now that shits all over its own people to keep the gatecrashers happy.

REFORM already pissed the next election in 29.

Strange how it's OK to announce yet another review into Social Care when the previous reccomendations from the last 2 reviews haven't been implemented but not OK to have a wider ranging review into grooming gangs isn't it? Especially when this latest review into Social Care won't report until the end of this Parliament, basically an excuse for inaction, talk about kicking the can.
Quangos, Commissions, and reviews are coming thick and fast but nothing changes for the better - regardless of who's in government. They all focused on feathering their own nests for as long as possible. Party Politics is killing us.

I've noticed you lot keep banging on about this 7 year inquiry.Has anything been acted on?,or is it just a long winded sweet feck all's been done piss poor attempt at a get out of jail card for the Labour party?..I know what the public are thinking...

Nah I wouldn't like. He's got absolutely nothing to do with this Country. Even if what he was saying was true...it's still fuck all to do with him.
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I hope he gets to hear about the' we do have something to hide' vote last night.. You'll be laughing on the other side of your face if he kicks off again,Mutley eh ..

For the US read the UK, for Trump read Farage, for Biden read Starmer.

The rich elite, neo-liberals of all political persuasions are literally importing modern day slaves, and have been for some time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4ImSiSIMxg

I hope he gets to hear about the' we do have something to hide' vote last night.. You'll be laughing on the other side of your face if he kicks off again,Mutley eh .. [/quote]
Eh?? You've lost me Sussex.

the main thing that gets me is kids being used as a political football. some seem totally uncaring about them whilst others are overconcerned especiaaly living in places where it has never happened or likely to happen.

Eh?? You've lost me Sussex. [/quote]

Elon's response to last night's cowardly vote against starting a national inquiry into the Grooming gang scandal..You must be eagerly waiting for it,right??.

What have they got to hide??

One wonders if part of the 'challenge' is the composition of the Councils in the areas in question.

I would have thought the main challenge is subjecting victims to another round of interview, asking them to re-live trauma and recall detail decades on. As others have said, Musk and the tories see this as purely politics, they don't give a flying F- for the people affected.

If victims want another inquiry, then work with them by all means but prioritise action first. No-one should be doing anything on the back of a tweet by a billionaire on ketamine. The irony that Badenoch was minister for children and did nothing is mind boggling.

I hope Mutley lives to 200+, then he will see what people are predicting to happen fully realised in the decades ahead!

The court cases and handling of it all should be enough to get everybody angry wherever they live..then a few years along the line they don't even get deported after a jail sentence.No wonder so many people are up in arms.As you say, some don't care..

Many victims say they weren't listened too first time around,ignored,Mikey..

it all sounds like some massive conspiracy theory where the police, councils, labour politicians and the courts themselves were all working as one to keep the whole thing as quiet as possible. just why and what have they to gain from it. got to remember there are more right minded muslims about than the sub human ones who groom and terrorise all. bomb somewhere and the bomb itself does not have, for non muslims only, printed on it. this theory could be correct but its difficult to hide anything in todays world and actions and non actions were bound to come out sometime. really anybody who was involved in a cover up are as bad as those involved in it.

'They' - whoever 'they' are - 'people say', 'many' - your recent posts are all quite vague to be honest, so hard to have any kind of informed discussion about it.

Is 'many' a majority? Can you put a number on it or provide a source? I've absolutely no doubt some want more answers but beyond that, what do you know for fact that others don't?

Victims of grooming gangs say ....there's plenty about it on various news feeds/media around the UK..Why do you always play things down?

I'm in no way playing it down but why do you ignore previous investigations and current actions? And why do you never talk about the 80% of grooming carried out by white men?

is playing things down actually any worse than boosting up the numbers of kids who were groomed like some are doing. we need the whole truth and actions in the future much more severe no matter who are offended by it.

think there is a big difference to an individual in his back bedroom attempting something to a number getting together to do the same or worse. individuals who fancy under age kids was not a recent invention like gangs doing it. its been going on since the days of the greeks and romans and possibly before.

One of the issues raised and acknowledged is that police forces didn't record the ethnicity of the perpetrators so to state that 80% of the crimes were carried out by white men is utter bollocks. And of those carried out by white men how many were of immigrant origin?

Elon's response to last night's cowardly vote against starting a national inquiry into the Grooming gang scandal..You must be eagerly waiting for it,right??.

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Missed that. But then again I don't hang on to every word of that lunatic drug addict.

I doubt I will. But you do realise that over 80% of sex crimes against children are committed by white men don't you?? Haven't seen many up in arms about that on here.

I've just put that to Stocksfield without realising you'd already asked the question.

What a fucking Crank you are.

Dr Taj Hargey speaking on GB news....anyone seen it?

You just keep giving!!!
That's about victims of crime not 'perpetrators'!!
What a Crank you are.

Well spotted, wrong link
https://assets-hmicfrs.justiceinspector ... making.pdf
Piss poor collection of ethnicity data for perpetrators for a variety of weak reasons.

Who is you lot? Nobody is in favour of child sex abuse.
You know what you public are thinking? You don’t think tho, you are as thick as a submarine door.

Ding Fucking Dong!!!
I'm not even going to click on that link...probably be about Pregnant Goldfish or something...Twat!!!

I have on here and if you look back you will find some very strong views on the subject by me.

80% of convicted paedos are white? Could that be because 85% of the population is white? I believe something like 80% of people involved in gang organized paedophilia are of Pakistani origin.

Seems to me the liberal establishment (Tory and Labour, mainstream media etc) are closing ranks on this issue because they are desperate to propagate the idea that multiculturalism is wonderful and they dont want the grim reality to be exposed to harsh publicity. Same cover it up mentality is evident with the Southport incident etc. Musk got involved because he has the sort of power and influence that cannot be silenced by the Uk liberal establishment. I agree his motive is political rather than any care for the abused young children.

multiculturaslism is an ideal from idealists that will never work as most cultures just want to be left alone to live their lives as they seem fit. forcing it on to any will have the opposite effect as people will dig in even more with like minded people when told they have to change. i,ll support any culture who want there own shops and schools as long as nobody forces me to use them. doubt things have changed since i left work where people in canteens sat in their own groups and everyone was totally happy with that. fact is being a football fan you went a step further as you sat with like minded but i never sat close to any who were into DIY.

Liberal establishment
Multicultural idealists
'I believe...' (who needs facts)
Cannot be silenced

All cut and paste tropes seen over and over on the internet that are applied to any argument as some sort of killer line, doing nothing to solve complex problems.

Is the country being held hostage by any chance?

Lol. So you dispute the existence of the liberal establishment who completely dominate the mainstream discourse in this country? This is just a "trope" is it?
People on here will tend to say what they believe and some cases what they dont believe. Tends to happen in social media chat rooms.
"Diversity Is Our Strength". Is that a trope? I have certainly seen it repeated ad nausiem without any evidence.
Do you think Starmer labelling those who are concerned about the grooming gangs as "jumping on the far right band wagon" is legitimate? What about Starmer labelling anyone who publically raised their disquiet about the Southport incident/cover up as "far right"?
Is the current government so unpopular because of the far right or is it because their policies and their attitude to working class people are gash?

How is the country being held hostage?

At least folk on forums like this are talking about complex issues rather than burying their heads in the sand as successive governments seem to. Are our government being held hostage, if so by whom and for what end goal?

just never can understand what their message of diversity is our strength actually means. if they said equality is then thats a far different argument. this country has never been equal from the day we are born and has got worse by certain groups being given publicity and money over others. even just being called a progressive now makes you feel if you have one over on those who are not who are called either gammon or far right.

Because the the Utility companies are all foreign owned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93l5y8v1pxo


Interesting to see what she said about Greater Manchester police and the fact she is sure that more will come out about the scandals that we have heard.

And yet she still doesn't back a full inquiry.

No country is equal. No country is equal because all individual people are different in term of potential and ambition. For example some folks are content to live on benefits wheras others work hard at school and want to achieve. Obviously some are born with more advantages than others but we can all grab opportunities and improve our lives. It is true some countries have more opportunities than others. In the UK there is nothing to stop someone from humble beginings achieving anything they want to if they are prepared to work at it. This has not always been the case but I believe it is these days. Just my opinion based onpersonal experience and observation.

forget her politics but someone like angela raynor who has done that gets more stick than the old etonian brigade will ever get and thats before the subject of the masses of royals that come into it who many still fawn about. worst thing this country ever did was to remove the free grammar schools and their ethic of hard work to comprehensive education where as long as kids behave and give no problems they can just piss their time away till they leave doing the bare minumum to get through just to avoid any discipline the schools can put on them.

Angela Raynor gets stick because she is useless. It is arguable if she got to be where she is, due to hard work and ability. In the past, in the past, old Etonians were the establishment so they got a free ride but this is not neccessarily the case these days. Boris Johnson got no end of abuse because he was useless as well as being an old Etonian. David Cameron (old Etonian) got a lot of abuse in the days when he was PM. All politicians get a hard time if they are shoit, especially these days when the mainstream is not the only source of discourse.