It all has to change. A few points on the board is not a sign of significant change, though they're very welcome.

Entitlement is dead right. These days Imp and Billie don't even pretend that a few decent results can mollify their indignation at how far Pools have fallen since the 'glory days' - the dozen or so seasons out of the last 50 odd that I've been going to games when Pools haven't been struggling.

Like the ghosts of Christmases Past, they come on here to wring any pleasure out of the idea that Pools might - might - be on a bit of an upturn. Bah Humbug!

Well I've been going 40 years and this club is being robbed of its soul bit by bit. If you don't care then that's fine. Each to their own.

I'm new as a fan, only 56 years, and yes we've had shit times but now we're a joke of a club. Any 'lower' teams are delighted to come and shit in our ground. Fans are listless, board is rubbish and team now and again has a go but even when we win, which I love, it's still not a convincing win, nothing to make you think this is a team and club of substance. Apologies for the rant but just the way it feels now. And I still drag my sorry arse to the games

I wouldn't still be going if I didn't care. Same as I did through the 70s and 80s, when if it wasn't for the travesty of 're-election' we'd have had a taste of non-league football long ago. When the bogs on the Millhouse were swimming in piss as often as not.

My focus with Pools is always on the players. The current squad put in a proper shift and are nowhere near as bad a group as others in the recent past - apart from Challinor's promotion squad.

A fair and accurate comment.

Only the 56 years hey and your calling us a joke. Maybe a few should sit up and take note. That massive gaps in the crowd all season and fans of 50 years are calling it out as they see it.Some of our fans have such a losers mentality they see the odd win in the national league as a reason to forget how shafted this club is. Happy plodding about in mid table in a league below what we have played our entire history as. Lets be honest results have improved but we are a million miles away from convincing many.

Were not struggling against sheff wed portsmouth mansfield etc werr struggling against the ebbsfleets tamworths bostons and gatesheads one huge difference. Results are on an upturn think ive mentioned the job whoever the manager is doing quite a few times. But lets be brutally honest so they should be on an upturn couldnt get much worse under the last manager.

But nobody has said they're happy have they? They just accept we are where we are because that's reality and we can't change it.
In my nearly 60 years of following them we've had fleeting short periods of success and guess what? One of them was with Raj as owner!

So because we have not had much success everyone should just accept losses to piss poor clubs the position were in cos were hartlepool were meant to be shit. If success is going up and coming down a hell of a lot worse with now huge gaps in the stand evwryoine should stay quiet cos we beat the mighty yeovil.

If people are unhappy then let them say so. They won't stop banging on about the government in other threads even though they can't change it. It's fair enough. Things are what they are yes, will a few points on the board change it? No.

Why have you quoted me when the response bears absolutely zero relevance to what I said?
Where has anyone told anyone else to stay quiet, where has anyone said Yeovil are mighty (apart from You obviously)? Although the reality is that they're not and never have been mighty, but before and after yesterday they are still above us in the league so I'd say that was a decent result.

I can't be arsed mate. We know your pro Raj slant. That's fine, we both want Pools to be better. For me it's under new owners. It won't stop me discussing the utter reality of things as plenty feel the same way.

Anyone who supports or has supported Pools for any length of time is entitled to sweet FA - and the same applies to all clubs at every level. Man City fans must be going through agony at present after several years of fantastic achievement - but they are no more ‘entitled’ to success than the Man Utd fans who remain in their doldrums, doubtless harking back to former glories. Closer to home, Darlo fans have been in the proverbial wilderness for donkeys years but a very respectable number still stand by their club despite many having offspring who are coming of age without ever experiencing a Darlo vs Pools derby. Kind of puts Pools recent struggles into perspective eh?

We're entitled to be able to call out incompetent running of the club.

Of course you are, but slagging off the players - who are currently giving their all - the coaching team, the fans and also the contributors to this board who don’t necessarily concur with your views, none of whom have an involvement in the running of the club, hardly represents fair game does it?

Well when I start doing any of that you might have a point.

Pools have always been a basket case, I don't get upset about it. In reality this is our level, re election with friends in high places has saved us from being spoken about in the same breath as Workington, Southport and Bradford PA... That's our level...the Vince Barker years, crumbling ground, shite pitch, players getting paid in ten bob bits from the turnstile...that's our level. Id love to see us challenge for the championship again but it's unlikely, not a lack of ambition just accepting what we are.
IOR gave us a taste of success but it was never going to last, they were always going to do one. I'm happy that I saw those years, hopefully sometime in the future someone will come along and we can do it again, I won't hold my breath though. I just see pools are my team and I'll support them regardless of what's going on.
95% of teams in the football league don't have constant success, that's life. Enjoy it when we get it, support them when we don't....that's how I see it. If you can't hack it stay at home and watch some premiership wank.
I've had a drink, just rambling....in vino veritas...we won, I thought we deserved it. Onwards and upwards x

No club on this planet has more missed opportunities than Pools. Losing Challinor, blowing the Yanks. The club were still capable of big crowds post IOR, they didn't all disappear over night. Look at our first few attendances of the first season back in league two, and keep in mind how many people were passing tickets through the fence to people outside (well ran club LOL). I was in the Millhouse terrace for the crawley game and it was 100% over capacity.

I'm sick of this "we're a wee club" shtick. Exeter, Lincoln, Cambridge, all wee clubs and have played at the level we're currently at, what are they doing right we keep doing wrong?

But yeah I'm resigned to it all now. The club won't ever really change, it'll probably just plod along at this level, eventually get unlucky one season, end up in the NLN, where if the likes of Scunthorpe and Stockport (were) anything to go by, is an absolute nightmare to get out of.

Minimum requirement unless some of our lot don't have self respect or pride or ambition.

All the new signings sing the praises of the club its fan base and potential.

It's only natural and the right thing to expect a top 7 place.
It's not like we demanding to win the league.

Like I've previously said struggling in the EFL and now non league is 2 totally different ball games.

Still a last chance saloon season.
UTP.

Every new signing at every club sings the praises of the club they've just joined don't they?
It's all about fulfilling hope and expectations, I'm sure the likes of Torquay, Scunthorpe, Darlington, Bury, Chester, Kidderminster, Scarborough, Hereford all ex efl teams and all at levels below us expect better too.

Yeah they all got shat on.

our problem is the same as all those teams plus the others you have missed out like aldershot and halifax. fans at these clubs who have witnessed league football, some like us over many generations, will never accept non league football at any level. we,d all accept a relegation battle from league 2 season on season if succesful rather than a play off position with failure from the national league.

They shouldn't accept it. I think we ourselvez should be secure EFL members minimum. Anything more would be nice but a bit greedy. The fact that we are not speaks volumes about mismanagement at the club. I don't believe the current regime will ever get its act together and realise the clubs potential. I'm not abandoning my club but the future is quite bleak unless summat changes.

The goal he claimed was well on side was infact well 9ff side. The two players at the back ( one scored ) at least 3 or 4 feet offside. The penalty was soft but Parksy was tripped although my accident but iss still a penalty.

unless you are dead in line which he wasn,t but going by the replay i still have doubts about the off side decision. the camera angle did not help but he looked fine when the ball was played which is the law and not when he received it. he was totally correct about our penalty as we all know that we have had more obvious ones turned down this season. whether their antics and constant moaning got to him in the end only he knows but could understand it if it did.

Great post and very true.
Ignoring the growth of the Premier (international) league we are in division 4 and we always have been and probably always will be. Take the positives like the catering has improved.
utp

We have to ignore a whole divisions worth of clubs to get any positives from our situation? My God. It sounds like one of my DIY projects, if you squint and use your imagination it doesn't look bad

The catering IS defo better though.

Well that's the double completed over a team above us, yet some only find reason to criticise. It wouldn't be so bad if there was even a grudgingly said well done, but nothing at all about the football just a dig at the ground, fans, and club as a whole. F*cking great support that from someone who had the brass neck to call the 3400 odd who turned up "tired". Well I'm not tired and nor are any of the regulars who I see every game.

I would make a longer reply to this post but I'm obviously too busy doing cartwheels.

Must go to Specsavers

I like the Bamboo Lounge food........proper class

I wonder how excited he gets if we win 3 in a row instead of the usual 1.
Probably want to marry Raj

Not getting excited mate just pointing out we've done OK getting a double over a team above us. I'm actually disappointed that some of the draws we've has recently weren't wins, which imo we would probably have gotten if we'd been a bit more adventurous.
As for Raj, he's just the current owner in a long list of owners in my time as a supporter, we've had much better and we've had much worse, and we'll probably have better and worse again in the future. I couldn't give a toss who owns the club.
Wonder what it would take for the Imp to post a well done, or good 3 points that, or actually comment on the football rather than immediately find things to post have a dif about and 100% negative stuff without a mention of the result or performance?

We're all good, I applauded the players in person.

The Grinch and the Elves (aka Imps) always disappear after Christmas - fingers crossed.......

Make you a deal. Raj buggers off from Pools, I'll bugger off from the bunker.

well said sir. just wonder if there has been mass suicides and season ticket burning down in yeovil because their gallent lads have had the double on them by the leagues no.1 basket case. fine to give the team some shit like defeat at ebbsfleet or the farce at oxford city but not after a win. the owner is the same win or lose but nobody goes to the vic to catch sight of him. feel if we beat gateshead 4-2 somebody will come on about a defender who had an off day and not the goals or the win.

There's plenty of criticism of the players on other threads. Maybe you should go and have a go at those folks. The irony is, I am not one of them. Until then if anyone doesn't like talking about the mess off the pitch then scroll on, it's really easy.

Or you could stop hijacking threads? This one was about the Yeovil game before & after not the state of the club or the the owner.

Uh oh, here come the bunker Police. The charge? Not being happy clappy enough.

Pools wins dont come along all that often so when one DOES come along there is a certain feel good factor. It is a bit annoying when someone comes along and shits on it. We all know the club has problems but its nice to to put those to one side sometimes especially when we pick up three points.

Tell you what, you bugger off first and we’ll let you know when Raj has left the building. You don’t need to leave the board, just set up your own thread and we will visit you when we feel the need to be brought down to earth a little or require a good old fashioned dose of abject hopelessness.

League table n mathematics come into play which suggests at least twice before the season ends we need to win 3 games in a row to achieve the objective off the top 7.
It can n should be done.

UTP.

My current take on the Raj situation is that having overseen a minor miracle getting us back into the EFL, he failed to do everything possible to maintain the status which the club had experienced for the major part of its existence.
We need an owner who has a feel for the needs of the club and spectators. Raj did save the club but I believe it is purely an investment for him.

Oh lovely. Happy Christmas to you too.

Off course it is. Its so plain to see.

But a fair few have dicky fits when it gets mentioned.
Only the Messiah to his deciples of losership.

Come on Elon.

he cannot live off that for ever though, its history. the present is needing an owner with big pockets to do what other clubs have done recently. without that money we,d still have stockport and wrexham on our fixture list in this league.

We beat Yeovil which is a fantastic achievement for us, lets now see if we can back it up against a club we really should be walking all over. When some of our fans get all giddy over 1 win every every 3 or 4 games no wonder we get chairman to happily plod along in the level below we should be playing. Some fans keep saying this is our rightful level utter nonsense no club that is capable of taking nearly 20k to wales for a play off 10 k to sunderland 4 k to darlo regularly take 1000 plus to games within 100 mile should accept this is our level. Lets get our fingers out in the new year and actually finally show some of the potential we have. Support doeant win games but most clubs with decent suppprt finally get back to their level they should be at.