From reading the board, seems like he had a good game tonight (as he did against Carlisle although he was slated after that game). Many on here rubbish him - You need to learn to appreciate class - There's not many players of his ability in the lower leagues.

indeed but with far to many members who play follow the leader .. (Mr I) well in some eyes anyway ... Humps gets it in the back for no reason except that they are sheep.

Hump's had a great game this evening... good on you mate...

Comments anyone....

Oh you all know who I am (I never need to hide my posts) it is a shame that when you hang one of our players out to dry, you cant say who you are... this has and always will be a point that gets under my skin ... they say that the people from Italy are cowards ....

Frank

PS Rant over now.. sorry

I don't see Pools more than once or twice a season plus any fortuitous TV appearances.
When I have seen us play, Ritchie has always been impeccable and yes that includes Luton away.

The comments about Humphreys being 'out of his depth' and 'over the hill' at 28 in this division are as ridiculous as you'll ever read on any of the boards. I doubt many teams in our division have a better left back.

Agreed that he was great last night but there is no way in this world that he had a good game against Carlisle!

In your opinion maybe not but your opinion isnt the only one in the world.

Grave, you and a few others have done nothing but slate the bloke all season calling him "useless" and "past it" and quite a few other choice terms just to have a dig most of the time. Its like its trendy to have a go at Humphs on this board, you fit in with the crowd if you regularly make some kind of comment about one wasted pass in the full 90 minutes or something equally as idiotic to pick up on when 99% of the passes were done perfectly.

Is this not the same thing that people hated about rivals, singling players out to become whipping boys and then slating them game after game, well thats how this board is looking at the minute I have to say, massive over reactions to individual perfomances each and every match.

Humphs is a good left back no doubt about it and deserves his place in our first team for what he does defensively but also what he offers attacking wise to our team, we are certainly worse off without him there. Some of you sadly are too blinkered to see it, rather wishing to believe the "tales of the mafia" than actually look at Ritchie for the good footballer that he is.

cracks me up how angry frank gets!

Follow the leader don't you see the irony in the thread? Incidentally Frank, pretty much everyone on this board knows exactly who I am so I think we can leave the personal insults to one side.

Sorry that I don't go into for the fawning and drooling, I leave that to you and Poolie Girl. Ritchie Humpreys has played very well in many games for Pools but he's had a lot of awful games too. Take that unbeaten run, for almost a full season he was awful while making plenty of 'up for it' statements but Scott never dared to drop him. I don't say that he's past it, I do say however that in the positions that he plays we have others as good as or better. He is now a excellent utility player to have in the squad.

As for the 'mafia' stuff; behave yourself Bernie, thats done to death and I'm not going back into it.

Humphs may be a better left sided player than Matty Robson, but can he do a souffle?

I think not.

Yeah he was shyte against Carlisle like

But as soon as someone has a bad game you always see a complete overreaction 'get him out of the team' ect. He does a good job for us more often than not and last night he was MOTM for me.

Trust me I was talking about 99% of the posters on here who hide their ID ... why cant members be who they are, or in doing so will membership drop by over 50% (posters with more than one user name) (yes I have in the past signed up under a false name that was to raise a laugh and once done I never posted under it again)

As far as having a go at you John, I was not, I was having a go at everyone .. I try not to do the personal attack stuff .. that I leave for others who, I am right in thinking that, I have no idea who they are .. as I say they are cowards that make personal attacks on anyone they feel like. Then, sit back in the knowledge that they are not known to the Player, Manager, Chairman, Club Staff Member, Hartlepool Mail Reporter or Board Poster, they attack

Now I will put my tin hat on again ...

PS I still think that this board will end up like Rivals .. they always do, when the personal attacks happen.

I think you should impress your feelings on the manager,
he seems intent on bringing in replacements for Ritchie.

Personally I think he has been a great servant to Pools
and will hopefully be around for some time yet.

On the other point, if I posted using my real name who
would be any the wiser.

Frank, I've spoken to you many times, I'll introduce
myself next time

It is difficult to find the line between moderating and censorship. Poolie Girl mentioned opinions and shes right; everyone got one and no-one's is more or less valid than anyone else's including hers. We all have our views on each player and team selection any nobody has a monopoly on wisdom - except maybe Ben Bradlee.

Incidentally, the only time there has been any moderating on here is when their has been direct and personal abuse, its pointless and unneccessary. it normally gets deleted.

But it's only an opinion Frank. I've seen some posts saying Richie is rubbish, past it, etc but I don't remember one attacking him personally. They are commenting on his playing ability. If you put yourself in the public eye in the "entertainment" business (cos that's what it is) you must be prepared to be shot at. Just because you think he's great doesn't mean everybody does and I don't believe he's so thin skinned to get upset by a few doubters of his ability. I think he has been a great servant to the club and is still our best left-sided defender and doesn't deserve some of the comments he gets but I respect the right of those individuals to have an opinion that differs from my own.

Same as LeicesterPoolie, if I posted under my real name no-one would be any the wiser. I don't know why you post under real name, you are certainly in the minority in that respect.

I was not talking about personal attacks on Humps. I was talking about on fellow posters.

Richie is a credit to the club and an all time poolie great.

True.

Frank you say personal attacks are going to happen on here like on rivals yet then say people should start revealing who they are?

They are less likely to happen if people do go under different names.

Im no Richie fan but he was great last night.

by the way Mouldy Old Dough is not my real name.

Humphreys won more headers than the rest of the back four put together!!!! Nelse in particular must have had lead boots on last night.

well against my better judgement i will post on this thread
as in the past most of the anti ritchie stuff comes from our leader
i used to think it was a wind up it was boring so in the end you tend to ignore it
especially when he he was commenting on games he had not seen
the statement this week about ritchie being nothing more than a squad player
obviously for effect or maybe he knows better than wilson what wilson is thinking
could be just his opinion but at times he tends to swim against the tide on this subject
like he did with the mafia theory
i asked the man in person about this theory and he laughed it off
and said tell him to come down and say it to me
ok it is alright for us to have opinions but some tend to go over the top and write any rubbish that comes to mind
i have alwys defended ritchie as i think like others he has been a good servant
and that he is still doing a good job for this club
and that means a lot to real fans
and DW has continued to play him

Ian, I'm not getting into all this again but do you really think that telling it to his face will bring me out in a cold sweat ?

as you well know that was not the intention
just pointing out how you throw these off the cuff comments albeit your opinon
and there is nothing to back them up
he is still getting picked despite your predictions

Can't people just not rate a player and that be the end of it?

I don't rate Frank Lampard, but he appreciate that he is a good player, he's just not my cup of tea.

It's as if people are not allowed to comment on Richie in the eyes of a certain few, it's very silly.

If you love him great, enjoy life.

Don't have a go at others if they don't though.

John I think the point that Ian is making is ... it is easy for people to slag of anyone on a message board, yet if they have the chance to say how they feel to that persons face they wont... it goes hand in hand with what I was saying...
Is a supporter a supporter?
Or
Is a supporter not a supporter?
I know and understand that everyone has the right to say what they feel is right for them to say ..
However is that right not extended to the person that they are talking about, to have it said to their face, to allow that person the right to reply?
No one can have it both ways, despite them wanting it so.

Anyway I hate saturdays off ... look what it does to me.

I never mind anyone having a honest and fair comment on how Humps plays either good or bad!
What I do not like is the utter hate and dislike from people with regards to Humps from posters who should know better.

U should get Saturdays off like us upstairs Franky!

I don't hate RH, I just don't go in for the deity-like status that some people afford him. He's been a good player for Pools no doubt and still is. That doesn't mean he has to be such a sacred cow.

Anyway, we're going round in circles.

You are so right John you just go far far to far the other way .... so far in fact that it read's, and feels like you have the very same blinkers on that you think I have, with one massive exception, I talk honestly with Humps and can be honest in what I say about how he plays... Can You?

Ahhh and Phil reveals all.... Oh Errr Mrs..

It's a visual sport, I don't need to talk to him to see how he plays Frank. On your other point; just because someone is critical of a given player doesn't mean he is any less of a supporter than someone who simply can't see any fault. For example when a player is dropped it is by definition a criticism by the manager. Does that mean that the manager care less than if he had left the player in irrespective of performance?

So because were not in a position to be around the players, we cant pass comment?

Out of order Tree. You can make your point without abuse.

Edited at your request Mr i!

as you well know john the post was not intended to make you sweat why would it if you are right
the point i was making is you throw in these off the cuff comments albeit your opinion
and you have nothing to back them up
he is still getting picked despite your predictions

Tree I missed what you said, that made John ask you to remove it, can I ask was it directed at me? if so would you be so kind as to PM me with your remarks?

I am interested to read what it was you posted ... of course if it had nothing to do with me then please don't bother.

He was bobbins at Luton!

Classic Frank! WTF you on about?!

TPP you like that one ... hee Hee

so the only difference Frank is that you manage to have access to the players because of your job (and how you love reminding us!). Oh the irony!

I don't think anyone makes personal attacks on players, just on their performances. Some people do seem overly negative and they will probably think some people may overly positive comments. And they are probably right.

As for your sheep comment and personal insults comment. A few years back there was the fund raising match between Pools and darlo fans for our youth team keeper who was paralysed (apologies for not remembering the kids name). I remember you sheepishly following the Durham FA company line defending the Durham FA for their nonsensical decision to not allow a qualified referee to ref the match because it was the close season. You even called fellow supporters idiots for having the audacity to criticise the decision. I think you are throwing stones whilst sitting in a very big glass house.

the thing is this happens every time someone says Ritchie had a bad game, Frank Reid, Poolie Girl etc come out with the 'top bloke comments' and start making out that there is a hate campaign against him. THERE ISNT, its just that the Ritchie lovers start kicking off as soon as someone gives him a bad score/rating. I appreciate he may be a nice bloke and a great professional but you guys seem to get blinkered by this and take any criticism as a attack on the bloke.

I dont think he is as good as a number of other people on here do but there is no way I think he is rubbish, I can just keep an open mind and see when he has good games (last night) and bad ones (carlisle).

In a way Frank, your 'friendship' with a player almost makes you the worst person to give an opinion in relation to his performances as inevitably you will have a biased opinion, whereas other people base their opinions on what happens during 90 mins.

Agree with the last two posts, the fact you have the option of talking to the players because of your job does not make your opinions more valid. In fact it can only be less valid because of your friendship. zzzzzz.

Plus your view of a game at pitch level and the fact half the time your looking through a camera lens, I fail to see how you can have anywhere near a half decent opinion of who has played well etc.

Were only allowed to give an opinion if we get chance to talk to the player so lets shut down every message board in the world and sew everyones mouth closed so we cant talk.

You must have to know the players to a reasonable level to be able to judge them properly

Grave and Tree are you one and the same? .. Do you know that they have a bar at the Vic now.. why not call in and talk to any of the lads and even give Humps your thoughts I am sure that he will be interested in them. I however don't go in them as I am always working after the games, and never drink when I am working. Yes I do have a rather blinkered view of the game with me looking through one lens or another. However that wont stop me from seeing how a person plays or does not pay... Or do you both think that I cant have a opinion on the game or how pools or its players played?

Also can you please look back and tell me the last time (apart from today) when I stood up for Hump's on here? Thanks I await you answer

As for me defending any of the players or if you like just Hump's. it is my choice to do so, just as it is your choice to slag them or him off... however I know that I know what I am talking about unlike ....

With regards to DFA not allowing any of its officials to officiate during June, and me going along with it. Of course I would have to go along with it, I am a DFA referee I would have no say in the matter June is close season. get it .. IT IS CLOSE SEASON that is to say NO FOOTBALL as far as DFA goes. It is easy to understand is it not?

Have a nice Sunday Girls... Sorry for poking fun at you both ... Honestly I am

one more point to shoot you down with and if we are lucky to shut you up with.... at what point did I say "Were only allowed to give an opinion if we get chance to talk to the player so lets shut down every message board in the world and sew everyones mouth closed so we cant talk ...

of course you are allowed to talk .. is that not what I have ben saying on here all day?

Nite Nite lad's or is it Lad?

I thought Humps was great last night and have said so, I fail to see why i should go and tell him this.

You seem to think that players will commit suicide if they hear a bad word said against them, well sorry it comes with the territory. If people play shit il say so and if they play great il say so. I fail to see why we have to then go see that player and tell it to their face.

Its a message board for opinions and opinions are good or bad.

Are you and Chip the same person? As soon as you criticise a player on here you have to tell the player to his face. Why? Are you not allowed to express opinions?

If i went to the cinema and said the film was shit, would you want me to ring the director up and tell him?

As regards to the last comment, it's more to do with the condescending manner that you spoke to the organisers. We all know you were right but the way you went on was pathetic and showed you up, I was genuinely embarrased for you.

I agree.

If the players were 12 year old boys then I could understand why we shouldn't slag them off. But they are big boys and to be honest I don't think they'll be slightly upset by any of the comments on here unless it was a total witch hunt, which it rarely is.

As I have said before tree.. you is hiding again..

The point I am making is, if you feel as strong about how Hump's plays, that you have to slag him off as you do then why not tell him face to face .. instead of hiding.. behind a tree.

Come out of the "Woods" tree it is time to stand up and be a Big Tree.

TPP that is my point It Is a witch hunt ....

Once again I said he played great. At some point iv said every player has played badly, why are you persistently banging on about Humphreys.

Oh and I see your acting "God" again, now deciding no one is allowed to have an alias on a message board.