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 Post subject: Re: Porter, Robson and McKay...
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:19 pm 
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Robson was a revalation, running at players, put in some dangerous crosses, phew, because before him and porter came on we just didn't look like scoring.
Oh and well done mackay, first league goal. clappp

Mind, how many times has Budz been beaten at the far post this season, we need to sort the defence out quick or some team is gonna give us a right hammering.

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Hence the loane, what about clark?

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i thought budtz was at fault for both goals the first should not have been allowed to go across the face of goal for the cross back in and for a keeper of his size he should not be getting beat by headers and shots in the air

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i thought budtz was at fault for both goals the first should not have been allowed to go across the face of goal for the cross back in and for a keeper of his size he should not be getting beat by headers and shots in the air


Agreed. Budtz was beaten by a ball over his head yet again. Unfortunately we got spoilt having Dimi in goal.

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Humpty was SHITE.

Balls to sentimentality - Pools legend aside, he crossed the ball in for their first, couldn't keep up for the second (although wasn't really at fault for it) and hoofed everything else.

Barker looked knackered and can't jump for crosses most of the time (good header when he got it though, nice to see him score from open play). Moore was okay.

Foley should have stayed on. Brown was overmarked again, which is fair enough. Boland good. Budtz didn't have to do anything most of the time. McCunnie was decidedly average.

James Brown's deflection from Barker's shot (which would have been saved anyway) came agonisingly close, and Nelson's shot was a belter, shame it just went over.


For 75 minutes it was the most infuriating display of midfield dross, failed passes and endless throw-ins. Their players were dirty bastards but not too shabby, didn't seem to get out of gear though. Their second was unstoppable though, perfect loft and angle, but Nelson should have been ahead of him.

Hats off to Porter, Robson and Mackay - but we really shouldn't leave it that late for subs when we're floundering around


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the header barker had near the end should have broken the net, it was easier than the one he scored.

One thing, why do our midfield constantly decide to pass backwards or sideways but never forward.
For me, liddle and bolland are just too defensively minded stpid

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 Post subject: Re: Porter, Robson and McKay...
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:55 pm 
TGP, Foley was poor, it wasn't his fault he isn't a left winger his only positive moments were after he moved to the right second half. Robson gets plenty of stick but that cross showed the merit of having a left footer on the left wing and that was the best cross I've seen all season to be fair. Humphreys was nowhere near that bad either even though he didn't have his best night.

The performance wasn't that bad, we aren't capable of keeping the back door shut at the moment, before the close one after we had equalised Carlisle had literally had two attacks and scored both of them. That doesn't cover the back four and keeper with glory. We should have won that game 1 or 2 nil tonight, the performance apart from the two goals was solid enough if we had defended properly we would be saying that it wasn't our best performance but we'll take the points as they weren't a threat!


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the management and players are going to have to get used to the fact that when we're at home, teams are going to get men behind the ball quickly when we've got possession. That's three in a row where chances have been at a premium.
I actually thought that their forward line pressed really hard and didn't give our back line any time on the ball, fair play to them for that, and their midfield were quite mobile and quick into the challenges.
We wanted to take an extra touch too many times until Porter and Robson came on. The tempo was upped when we had the ball, typified by Porter's quick turn and pass with the outside of his boot to keep one attack in full flow. That's the spark that was missing. I thought Moore worked hard with little reward, he covered every inch of grass tonight without any luck. I can't help but wonder about how his workrate and movement, allied to Porter's cleverness, will bring us greater rewards in front of goal.
We could have nicked it in the last five minutes as we had the momentum back with us, but conversely a horrible headed clearance from Humphreys almost cost us at the end, when their midfield ran at us from all directions and they ended up missing a sitter.

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PJ_Poolie wrote:
TGP, Foley was poor, it wasn't his fault he isn't a left winger his only positive moments were after he moved to the right second half. Robson gets plenty of stick but that cross showed the merit of having a left footer on the left wing and that was the best cross I've seen all season to be fair. Humphreys was nowhere near that bad either even though he didn't have his best night.

The performance wasn't that bad, we aren't capable of keeping the back door shut at the moment, before the close one after we had equalised Carlisle had literally had two attacks and scored both of them. That doesn't cover the back four and keeper with glory. We should have won that game 1 or 2 nil tonight, the performance apart from the two goals was solid enough if we had defended properly we would be saying that it wasn't our best performance but we'll take the points as they weren't a threat!

Foley needs more game time and in a position he can actually get into. I like Robson a lot, he shows a lot of commitment and I wouldn't argue with him starting every now and then.

I'll agree to disagree on Humphreys though. Liddle is better in that position and it may give Ben Clark a run out. I think both Ritchies need a rest, they weren't sharp enough :/


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PJ_Poolie wrote:
TGP, Foley was poor, it wasn't his fault he isn't a left winger his only positive moments were after he moved to the right second half. Robson gets plenty of stick but that cross showed the merit of having a left footer on the left wing and that was the best cross I've seen all season to be fair. Humphreys was nowhere near that bad either even though he didn't have his best night.

The performance wasn't that bad, we aren't capable of keeping the back door shut at the moment, before the close one after we had equalised Carlisle had literally had two attacks and scored both of them. That doesn't cover the back four and keeper with glory. We should have won that game 1 or 2 nil tonight, the performance apart from the two goals was solid enough if we had defended properly we would be saying that it wasn't our best performance but we'll take the points as they weren't a threat!



Humphries was absolutely dreadful, he barely did a thing right all game rolfl

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Sorry but standing in the Town End behind the goal Budtz had no chance with either goal, the first one was not a cross he could go out and take and the second header by Graham coul;dn't have been met or placed more perfectly, no keeper would have saved that.

Disagree about the midfield two, they keep and pass the ball, they go sideways and back sometimes but mainly when a pass to feet is not on in front of them. In the second half Boland played a good few balls foward into feet in and around the box which could have broken for us.

Joel showed his extra class tonight when he came on in my opinion.


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I hope Monkhouse is fit for Saturday, we missed him big-style tonight. At their best, he and Brown cause problems for any defence in this league. Let's hope they're both playing and on form come Saturday.

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I thought a draw was fair. You had a lot of possession in the first half but didn't really threaten us and we looked the more dangerous in the final 3rd.

2nd half we started off pretty well and had quite a lot of the ball for the first 15 - 20 mins of the 2nd half, then we seemed to sit back and you started to put us under a lot of pressure and it was only a matter of time before you equalised. Our keeper made a really good save.

We could have won it in stoppage time when Danny Carlton fired over from about 5 yards.

Decent game though. Im a bit in shock as ive just came home and found out we've appointed a new manager.


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chip fireball wrote:
ben clark is probably sat at home right now wondering if there is a god.


Oh I think he already knows the answer to that - it's godwin antwi.


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Humphreys was a waste of space yet again and every team marks Brown out of the game so id rather have Gibb starting.

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Humphreys was a waste of space yet again and every team marks Brown out of the game so id rather have Gibb starting.


Don't be stupid.

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
so id rather have Gibb starting.


rolfl rolfl rolfl

I think Tree must have been joking, Tree please tell me you were.....

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After every game people say "Brown was poor as marked out of the game"

I fail to see the point in playing him if he is always "marked out of the game" as when he finally does get away from his marker, he will drag it back and try to beat him again and lose it. He never crosses the ball or passes when he should and attacks fizzle out when he has the ball. Only chance we have of a cross from the right is when he passes back to Mccunnie who doesnt fuck about and gets the ball in the box EVERY time.

Barker was winning headers last night against a small back line but does Brown cross the ball? Does he fuck.

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like this chimp?

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I have to agree with those who don't blame Budtz for either goal.

The first was going to quick across the goal and it should have been cleared before it came back across to bounce of Graham and the second was an excellent header, i wouldn't expect many keepers saving that one


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ElvisCsGlasses(TM) wrote:
The first was pure, 100% jammy spawn.

The guy at the back stick tried to SHOOT, scuffed it across the face where it HIT Graham on the knee and went in. Good job I love Cumbria otherwise I'd have called him a Semi-Scottish sheep-shagging lucky Dumbrian tw@t.


Well funnily enough I do hate Cumbria and I called him a Semi-Scottish sheep-shagging lucky Dumbrian tw@t.

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chip fireball wrote:
both full backs were awful tonight. thats the worst ive seen mcunnie play, it started with him letting a ball bounce that he should have dealt with first time and got worse from there. im sure he will bounce back, he seems a confident lad, he certainly didnt hide at any point.

boland was way off the pace again and not his usual self, reasobale but nowhere near as good as he can be.

moore must only play well when im not there because he contributed almost nothing whatsoever that i can recall, other then getting shoved off the ball a lot and running about a lot chasing lost causes.

the late equaliser probably masks another average performance from what is looking on the basis of the home form an average division one side.



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