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 Post subject: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:23 pm 
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Ffs Wilson admit you were wrong and get that useless 'lovely lovely person' out of our squad.

Didnt agree with the subs, couldnt believe Porter didnt start and then Foley comes on before him!!

Yeah I know Foley scored twice but surely Wilson has some problem with Joel? He is easily the best striker we have but down to 4th choice today??

Mccunnie is also not a right back but I dont think Wilson could care less.

Well done lads, great win :sweeeet:

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:31 pm 
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Tree, you need fooking help.


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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:35 pm 
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Mr Hamster - I agree that it's a little bit strange for Foley to come on before Joel but you can't knock the lad for taking his chance. Maybe if we play a tight midfield consisting of players who can actually pass like Liddle and Boland then he might get the sort of service he needs ie through balls.....

On the right back situation it is clear that Gibb isn't one. McCunnie - we will see in the next couple of weeks.


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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:38 pm 
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3Quid wrote:
Tree, you need fooking help.


Come on tyhen, what do you disagree about?

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:58 pm 
Only tree with hamster could moan about someone who came on at 1-0 down and bagged a brace for us to win 2-1 when we where down to ten men.......

Wilson probably had a gut feeling that Foley could make a difference, he was right when he got onto a Barker flick on just after coming on. He said on the radio he thought we where getting a bit predictable looking for Barker with high balls so he took Barker off and brought Joel on (how easy would it have been to bring a defender on at 1-1 with extra time looming?) and we won.

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:11 am 
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Where did i moan about Foley???

Some of you need to open your eyes.

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:50 am 
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ADG wrote:
Why is it.............with the lot of you.......that the world is either black or white.

Hamster makes some interesting points. So why not discuss his points rather than just slag him off?

I cant comment as I havent seen a game yet, since May.

The ones critical after saturday were slaughtered by the rest.

We win one game, and the REST now talk like the champions league beckons.

Get fookin real both sides will yer.

And comment on Hamsters points. Thats what the MB is here for is it not? :roll:


Agree in principle Dibbs but when the comments include statements such as 'Wilson couldn't care less' then its not worth discussing

So.... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:27 am 
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Only tree with hamster could moan about someone who came on at 1-0 down and bagged a brace for us to win 2-1 when we where down to ten men.......

Wilson probably had a gut feeling that Foley could make a difference, he was right when he got onto a Barker flick on just after coming on. He said on the radio he thought we where getting a bit predictable looking for Barker with high balls so he took Barker off and brought Joel on (how easy would it have been to bring a defender on at 1-1 with extra time looming?) and we won.

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He didnt slag Foley off. The points he made are valid ones. 90% of pools fans would have wanted Porter on before Foley and this seems to be the point that Tree is making.

It seems to be you PJ who is the wind up merchant around here, criticising people who express an opinion. If you really cannot stand disagreements you really should stay away from messageboards.

I rate Foley, and I know from speaking to Tree that he does too however, there is no way any sane person would have Foley higher up the pecking order than Joel.

As it turned out Wilson got it spot on last night, as he often does but thats not to say that had Porter not started the game he wouldnt have banged in a hat-trick is it!?

Lets just enjoy the result and stop this riv rarf bickering ffs.

And in anycase what about a Foley + Joel attacking partnership next game!! I reckon it could work providing we keep the ball down. thrilled

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:30 am 
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I've just finished night shift, but the computer at work is so slow and crap I couldn't get any Pools World commentary.I had to listen to the owld wireless in the control room, but it was mostly Darlo. When Pools actually came on for a couple of minutes, it was some bloke who kept saying things like ,"And in the centre of midfield Hartlepool have Liddle and errm,ermm,errr......... (pregnant pause).................Boland.................."
What a load of crap that radio station is. It's no wonder people won't buy digital radio, it's no good buying good equipment if the stuff that comes on it is absolute third rate amateurish sh-ite.

Anyway, it means I know nothing much about what we really played like (other than DW's initial comments on HUFC site) but it's always better to hear it from a fan's point of view IMO ..........

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
3Quid wrote:
Tree, you need fooking help.


Come on tyhen, what do you disagree about?


All of it.Apart from the last line.

If that's ok to disagree with it???

Not that i care if it isn't.

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Ffs Wilson admit you were wrong and get that useless c*** out of our squad


I agree.

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Didnt agree with the subs, couldnt believe Porter didnt start and then Foley comes on before him!!


Seeing as you didn't agree with them, it obviously proves Wilson knows more than you seeing as he got them spot on and his subs won us the game.

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Mccunnie is also not a right back but I dont think Wilson could care less.


Idiot.

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:56 am 
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Ffs Wilson admit you were wrong and get that useless c*** out of our squad.

Didnt agree with the subs, couldnt believe Porter didnt start and then Foley comes on before him!!

Yeah I know Foley scored twice but surely Wilson has some problem with Joel? He is easily the best striker we have but down to 4th choice today??

Mccunnie is also not a right back but I dont think Wilson could care less.

Well done lads, great win :sweeeet:


I can't see any interesting points to discuss, you have certainly made some statements but haven't backed anything up really have you?

Wilson admit you were wrong...

Don't agree with the subs...

yeah I know Foley scored twice... rolfl

Not exactly a well articulated balanced argument to get discussion going around the 'points' you have raised is it?

What makes you think Wilson has a problem with Porter? what if its the other way round? what if there is no problems at all but as the gaffer he has made a decision based on what he sees on the training ground and what his scouts tell him about the oppo?

'yeah I know Foley scored twice.'
clappp clappp clappp

rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
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But at least you have got me and TPP agreeing on something!!! clappp

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
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Dugoutpaddy wrote:
But at least you have got me and TPP agreeing on something!!! clappp

:wink:


When don't we??!! :laugh: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:05 pm 
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It seems to be you PJ who is the wind up merchant around here, criticising people who express an opinion. If you really cannot stand disagreements you really should stay away from messageboards.

I rate Foley, and I know from speaking to Tree that he does too however, there is no way any sane person would have Foley higher up the pecking order than Joel.

As it turned out Wilson got it spot on last night, as he often does but thats not to say that had Porter not started the game he wouldnt have banged in a hat-trick is it!?




Look I don't criticise anyone for having an opinion and never will but when someone is calling one of our players a 'useless 'lovely lovely person'' saying our manger 'couldn't care a less' and 'clearly has a problem with Joel' then says a player isn't a right back after TWO games (one of which he didn't even attend) deserves that type of response as he is clearly posting stuff that will get peoples backs up, like headlander with a bit more off. Of course in the middle of all the crap you'll always get some valid points like the Joel debate. But to suggest Wilson got in wrong last night is just barmy!!

He says he didn't agree with subs, well thats like admitting he's wrong as the subs won us the game!! FFS tree admit you are wrong rolfl rolfl

Substitutions aren't black and white, last night Wilson thought Foley could make a difference that doesn't mean to say he's higher in the pecking order than Joel it means DW at the time thought Foley could make a difference. Which in hindsight was spot on.


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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
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Barker battled away all night but didn't have much luck against a strong defence. Foley gave us a different option and they couldn't cope with his direct running, an inspired substitution me thinks.

Gibb is a different kettle of fish. Firstly I don't think he's a full back, secondly why on earth commit yourself to a tackle which at best can be described as reckless and finally what was he doing in that area of the pitch, a long way out of position.

I still have a problem with Robson. He isn't a full back either. He pushes forward, leaves a gap behind which gets exploited by the opposition. A central defender is forced to cover for him as he is so far out of position which then creates gaps in the defence which gives their forwards the opportunity to score. Patterson exploited the gap between McCunnie and Nelson to score their goal. Nearly all their threatening attacks came down our left wing and I don't think thats coincidence. When Robson pushes forward he takes an additional touch which allows their defender to block his shot/cross easily. I don't want to berate the guy but it didn't work last night.

Anyway well worth the trip, pleased I went micky mouse cup or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:47 pm 
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I didnt agree with the subs. Bringing on Gibb was a stupid idea regardless of him getting sent off. My point was that I think Porter should be used before Foley. The fact Foley scored 2, 100 or none is irrelevant. But im pretty sure you cant quite grasp that concept.

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:51 pm 
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But im pretty sure you cant quite grasp that concept.


OK Tree, your target for tomorrow is to try and express an opinion without at the same time being offensive.

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
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PJ_Poolie wrote:
gravedisorder wrote:

It seems to be you PJ who is the wind up merchant around here, criticising people who express an opinion. If you really cannot stand disagreements you really should stay away from messageboards.

I rate Foley, and I know from speaking to Tree that he does too however, there is no way any sane person would have Foley higher up the pecking order than Joel.

As it turned out Wilson got it spot on last night, as he often does but thats not to say that had Porter not started the game he wouldnt have banged in a hat-trick is it!?





Look I don't criticise anyone for having an opinion and never will but when someone is calling one of our players a 'useless c***' saying our manger 'couldn't care a less' and 'clearly has a problem with Joel' then says a player isn't a right back after TWO games (one of which he didn't even attend) deserves that type of response as he is clearly posting stuff that will get peoples backs up, like headlander with a bit more off. Of course in the middle of all the crap you'll always get some valid points like the Joel debate. But to suggest Wilson got in wrong last night is just barmy!!

He says he didn't agree with subs, well thats like admitting he's wrong as the subs won us the game!! FFS tree admit you are wrong rolfl rolfl

Substitutions aren't black and white, last night Wilson thought Foley could make a difference that doesn't mean to say he's higher in the pecking order than Joel it means DW at the time thought Foley could make a difference. Which in hindsight was spot on.


Fair enough, I agree that to say Wilson 'doesnt care less' is wrong. I also agree that bringing on Foley worked last night and tbh it could work for the best in many games as the opposition centre backs tire.

Its just that as soon as anyone on here posts a criticism you seem to jump on them straight away. Yeah, ok so Tree is negative 99% of the time (or maybe more :laugh: ) but im negative at times too. Sometimes I praise a player when necessary and sometimes I slag them off. How boring would a forum be without any negativity!

People seem to resort to name-calling as soon as someone expresses a different opinion - this is what makes the rivals board so w@nk.

In future why dont we refrain from insults and just ask for people to justify their comments albeit +ve or -ve. Im sure Tree and everyone else has reasons for saying what he/she does.

I personally think Ritchie Humpries is terrible, Ali Gibb too but as long as I can justify why I think this then I dont see why we cant criticise players.

Tree's post could be taken in a +ve light if you consider that he is really praising Joel and saying that he should be ahead of Foley. Fair enough, most would agree with this.

Lets not turn this board into rivals, its much better than that.

Oh, and the more I think about it the better the idea of pairing Foley and Porter up-front becomes. Both skillful, mobile, can find the net. Porter can play the target man role quite well etc etc. :sweeeet:

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
I didnt agree with the subs. Bringing on Gibb was a stupid idea regardless of him getting sent off. My point was that I think Porter should be used before Foley. The fact Foley scored 2, 100 or none is irrelevant. But im pretty sure you cant quite grasp that concept.


Lets hope that Foley scores two "irrelevant" goals in every game he plays this season. I'd rather have two of his "irrelevant" goals than one "relevant" goal of Porter's. You seem to think that every game involes the same set of circumstances. Perhaps that's why Wilson is the manager and you're not.

Just try and give Wilson credit for reading this particular game so well last night. Go on...you know you want to....it really won't hurt that much...one....two...three.....deep breath......and....... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
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Football managers just have daft ideas sometimes. Cooper played nelson up front. Turner signed andy macavoy as a winger, but played him up front despite him not scoring like ever. Also graeme lee up front.


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 Post subject: Re: Ali Gibb and subs
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Basil Fawlty wrote:
Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
I didnt agree with the subs. Bringing on Gibb was a stupid idea regardless of him getting sent off. My point was that I think Porter should be used before Foley. The fact Foley scored 2, 100 or none is irrelevant. But im pretty sure you cant quite grasp that concept.


Lets hope that Foley scores two "irrelevant" goals in every game he plays this season. I'd rather have two of his "irrelevant" goals than one "relevant" goal of Porter's. You seem to think that every game involes the same set of circumstances. Perhaps that's why Wilson is the manager and you're not.




Just as I thought, someone couldnt grasp the concept.

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