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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:27 am 
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do some people expect Pools' to improve and progress long term if a the managers office has a revolving door? Is getting rid of Wilson really the answer? I don't think so.

Some of the comments regarding yesterdays result are nothing short of pathetic, yes it was a poor performance and result but the people who are suggesting that it was worse than Martin Scotts Pools can't have attended the Yeovil, Bradford and Blackpool home games last season.

As for giving Matty Robson stick, its not on, we know he is really inconsistant but at least he tries to make something happen. Sweeney has had one good game in 2 years and Ali G was hiding on the touchline all game but they escape grief from the terrace bulies.

Danny Wilson is attempting to get this team playing football, not long ball cack. thats obvious for everyone to see. The substatutions were strange but at least he tried to make something happen whilst there was still time. They didn't come off and hopefully lessons will be learned.

Wilson should be judged on how he gets the team to respond and there's a lot of players who need to step up to the occasion.... It seemed like they were up until yesterday......


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:29 am 
but we have supposed to have dropped all the dead legs
and still we are playing bloody awful football


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We seem to struggle when we concede the first goal because the wrong player is selected in the centre of midfield. Liddle should be put into the centre of midfield instead of Sweeney, I'm not convinced about the formation, I actually prefferred 4 3 3....


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We have dropped 36 places out of 92 in the Football League in 16 months....you name me a team who has dropped as far as that in that short space of time Jonny? and we are supposed to be happy and go on as though nowts wrong?

As for Robson,he's been an established member of the first team now for 3 years...if he cant walk the walk now when will he?....Yeh he's supposed to make something happen...but he doesnt does he?....its not his fault though is it?...he aint gonna turn around and say "im shite,dont bother playing me" is he?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:47 am 
Jonny wrote:
We seem to struggle when we concede the first goal because the wrong player is selected in the centre of midfield. Liddle should be put into the centre of midfield instead of Sweeney, I'm not convinced about the formation, I actually prefferred 4 3 3....


i think it is a bit more than that

either they dont know what system they are supposed to be playing too
or it is too complicated for them to grasp it

exactly the same position when scotty was in charge
remember the senior players running to the bench on masse last season asing what the hell they were supposed to be doing


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I am not saying that we should be happy, far from it but eventually we are gonna have to allow someone time to turn things around. Getting rid of managers constantly is not going to help matters. It is also time that people moved on and realised that we are a million miles away from the league one play off final, it is gonna take a lot of hard work and patience to get back there.

At least Robson will run at players, he needs to improve his final ball and decision making drastically but I think that along with Daly he has been made the scapegoat.....


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poolpower wrote:
Jonny wrote:
We seem to struggle when we concede the first goal because the wrong player is selected in the centre of midfield. Liddle should be put into the centre of midfield instead of Sweeney, I'm not convinced about the formation, I actually prefferred 4 3 3....


i think it is a bit more than that

either they dont know what system they are supposed to be playing too
or it is too complicated for them to grasp it

exactly the same position when scotty was in charge
remember the senior players running to the bench on masse last season asing what the hell they were supposed to be doing
....... if the formations too complicated for the players to 'grasp' sholud they be playing professional football at all?, it's football for F***sake not rocket scienceIT'S A SIMPLE GAME WITH A FEW TACTICAL VARIATIONS, that the average gerbil should be capable of comprehending. Imagine going to work and being asked to chenge your routine and then scratching your head and claiming everything's too complicated...I think not!


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maybe we should sign some gerbils then
ooo snowy you make it sound so easy

some players only have one trick in their book


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Jonny wrote:
As for giving Matty Robson stick, its not on, we know he is really inconsistant but at least he tries to make something happen. Sweeney has had one good game in 2 years and Ali G was hiding on the touchline all game but they escape grief from the terrace bulies.

At least Robson will run at players, he needs to improve his final ball and decision making drastically but I think that along with Daly he has been made the scapegoat.....


So instead of making Robson a scapegoat you'd rather it be Sweeney who you seem to have singled out as the main culprit? I take on board what you're trying to say but it's a whole team thing individuals are not to blame it's the team and by team I include the management which are supposingly working together!!

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I'm positively positive about that performance...... I think ?


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Jonny wrote:
I am not saying that we should be happy, far from it but eventually we are gonna have to allow someone time to turn things around. Getting rid of managers constantly is not going to help matters. It is also time that people moved on and realised that we are a million miles away from the league one play off final, it is gonna take a lot of hard work and patience to get back there.

At least Robson will run at players, he needs to improve his final ball and decision making drastically but I think that along with Daly he has been made the scapegoat.....



youre right, getting rid of managers all the time isnt helping, but neithers appointing the wrong ones and waiting untill were fucked to do summat about it


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:27 pm 
they dont

its just a baaaaaaaaaaaad feeling , coupled with other clubs warnings-you know the clubs wilson FAILED at, and it aint going away.

I do blame the Scott era,cos its that what has given me this paranoia


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Hogan's trusty instep wrote:
Jonny wrote:
As for giving Matty Robson stick, its not on, we know he is really inconsistant but at least he tries to make something happen. Sweeney has had one good game in 2 years and Ali G was hiding on the touchline all game but they escape grief from the terrace bulies.

At least Robson will run at players, he needs to improve his final ball and decision making drastically but I think that along with Daly he has been made the scapegoat.....


So instead of making Robson a scapegoat you'd rather it be Sweeney who you seem to have singled out as the main culprit? I take on board what you're trying to say but it's a whole team thing individuals are not to blame it's the team and by team I include the management which are supposingly working together!!


I am not saying that any individual players should be singled out, not at all i just think that the grief that Matty Robson has had in particular is unjust.

The results in the last 4 or 5 games before the Shrews match were reasonable, I think a lot of people are severly over reacting to Saturdays result. If Pools lose 4 of the next 6 games or similar then the manager situation should be looked at but at the present time I think it is ludicrous to suggest a change of manager.

It seems that many people go from one extreme to another, it is simply too early to say whether Wilson will be a success or not in my opinion.


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