Matty Robson

narl · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:13 pm

By all accounts has had 2 good games in holland.

He gets slated off virtually everybody, but I think away from home with none of the fans getting on his back he'll have been relaxed and thats probably the reason for a good performance

I've always thought his effort and running with the ball (going past pretty much every right back I've seen him play against) was good it's his overall positioning and end product that he lacks.

DW obviously kept him on because he sees potential, and I think if he learns to knock a ball in and gets the fans behind him or at least not getting on his back we might see some of that potential this season.

HUFC Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:40 pm

HE wont get knocked from pillar to post in this division either, Hopefully a little more time on the ball! Good lad and gives 110% as you say just needs to work on the final third clappp

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:03 pm

It was unfortunate what happened to him last season he started the season fairly brightly but when his form and confidence dipped he couldn't be left out of the side as Humphreys was at Port Vale and Monkhouse hadn't been signed as a result his confidence ended up at rock bottom.

What I liked though is that even though he was having a nightmare and goons in the crowd where hammering the lad he never hid once which should be applauded. He has plenty of rough edges but he also has a lot of positives in his game as well.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:07 pm

I agree that his attitude is fantastic. I dont rate him as a left back but like you say, he does not hide and keeps giving 100% despite having a stinker.

Jonny · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:17 pm

His passing interchanges and decision making at times are poor. He s quite fast and defenders don't like him running at them, he should concentratee on taking on full backs and either shooting or whipping crosses, so in other words be direct always. When he fannys about he gets found out......

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:09 pm

Jonny wrote:

His passing interchanges and decision making at times are poor. He s quite fast and defenders don't like him running at them, he should concentratee on taking on full backs and either shooting or whipping crosses, so in other words be direct always. When he fannys about he gets found out......

I concur 99.92%

Lager Lout · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:31 pm

He cant play get rid of im.

Matty_Robson's_Chin · **Joined:** Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:57 pm **Posts:** 2155

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:57 pm

HUFC Poolie wrote:

HE wont get knocked from pillar to post in this division either, Hopefully a little more time on the ball! Good lad and gives 110% as you say just needs to work on the final third clappp

He's already had three season in this league and was found out

He is no doubt a 'canny lad' etc etc and some of the abuse he gets is uncalled for but when push come to shove, he just isn't good enough at this level

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

How far would a team full of poor players who are "decent lads" get us? I sometimes think thats all people want. We want to improve and move up the league, theres no room for sentiment as Wilson shown by releasing Williams. Robson had a year left on his contract, thats the reason he wasnt released.

Yeah he is quick but I cant think of anything else he can offer us.

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:05 am

I've always liked Matty Robson, how about that for a confession. When he is played in his best position, wide left, and runs at defences, he is what every defender hates. But his wayward passing, and inconsistent crossing let him down. I'm sure if at the end of this season he hasn't shown a marked improvement, then DW will have him on his to be released list, and I will not be calling for him to be kept on.

On the subject of released players, anyone going to Darlo to watch Eifion bag a couple more easy goals in a fortnight?

Mute Witness · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:10 am **Posts:** 3572

Hmmmm...hard one this. He's got potential...but whether he will meet this potential is a tricky one.

He is a confidence player and when his head drops, he is shite and he can't cross. With confidence he's not as bad and believe it or not he can cross. You'd think the older he gets the more confidence he'll have but he seems to lose it.

I'd like to see a confident Matty Robson but that's not down to me, it's down to him to find it in himself.

He's defintley not a left back though.

I'd like to see him go out on loan with a fresh start and discover himself...

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:33 am

narl wrote:

By all accounts has had 2 good games in holland.

He gets slated off virtually everybody, but I think away from home with none of the fans getting on his back he'll have been relaxed and thats probably the reason for a good performance

I've always thought his effort and running with the ball (going past pretty much every right back I've seen him play against) was good it's his overall positioning and end product that he lacks.

DW obviously kept him on because he sees potential, and I think if he learns to knock a ball in and gets the fans behind him or at least not getting on his back we might see some of that potential this season.

You could have been talking about Ali Gibb who everyone slaughters....but I think he does a job and this coming season he's going to prove a helluva' lot of people wrong!!!!

:sweeeet:

Jonny · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:44 am

I hope he does prove people wrong, my gut feeling is that he won't make it but certain parts of his game are ok. He may well get an oppertuniy at the start of the season with Monkey being suspended.... I hope he does well.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:31 am

In the game that effectively got us to the play off finals, i.e., the 2-0 win over Tranmere, the consensus in the whole of the division was that Mr Robson was one of the best players on the pitch.
He was our most regular left back in the two [CCL1] play-off seasons.
In our first game back in this division last time round he scored a clinical goal against P'boro that made the win possible.
Last season in a similar wild game at London Road he got the goal that stopped the rot.
When Scott got the boot, Stevo played him on the wing and he won the game for us against Chesterfield.

So he is obviously SHIT.

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:47 am

The popular opinion when Matty is in the team is that 'Matty is going to be crap,' therefore if he played 99 great passes and one went into the Millhouse, he'd be shit.

Everybody moans about pace and Pools not having any, and I know even now, that the answer is 'yeah but there's no point in having pace if you can't cross.' Eifion Williams couldn't cross his fingers and when he was on the right wing no-one complained.

We are lucky that we have some really great players with a good left foot. If you want to criticise Matty Robson, have a go at his tackling, which is abominable. Matty can be every bit as good as Monkey and I can't think of any stronger praise.

So shaddap!! :grin:

Jonny · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:49 am

I think most people can apreciate that he has had good games, but the key is consistancy. He needs to string 6,7, 8 good performanaces together.

Jonny · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:53 am

Pooliekev wrote:

The popular opinion when Matty is in the team is that 'Matty is going to be crap,' therefore if he played 99 great passes and one went into the Millhouse, he'd be shiit.

Everybody moans about pace and Pools not having any, and I know even now, that the answer is 'yeah but there's no point in having pace if you can't cross.' Eifion Williams couldn't cross his fingers and when he was on the right wing no-one complained.

We are lucky that we have some really great players with a good left foot. If you want to criticise Matty Robson, have a go at his tackling, which is abominable. Matty can be every bit as good as Monkey and I can't think of any stronger praise.

So shaddap!! :grin:

Many people complained about Williams on the wing and to suggest that Matty Robson is anywhere near as good as Monkey is comical. Monkey can pass, he can tackle (maybe a bit aggressively at times), Monkey is good in the air and his final ball is a lot better. Monkey provides the team with a better outlet from goal kicks etc because he wins a lot of flick ons. Most of all though Monkey plays consistantly well.

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:59 am

It's only comical if you are a confirmed Matty Robson hater.

How did we do what we did with Matty in the team if he's such a terrible player??

Jonny · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:06 am

1 - I am not a Matty hater, I believe he tries his best and I never slag him off at the match.

2 - He didn't play that much - Hugh was left back most of the season. Certainly until Feb/March when our form fell apart and we then only just scraped the play offs when it should of been comfortable.

3 - Dimi was awesome, Nelson was pretty good and Adam Boyd scored a lot of goals and created a hell of a lot as well, Porter was also on top form.

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:32 am

Well no, Matty played more games than Shuggy, about ten more, and scored the same amount of goals. Don't forget he was played out of position as well. Surely you can't rely on a four man team??

I agree that Robson can be a frustrating player sometimes and drifts in and out a bit, but the good side of his game far outweighs the bad side. I don't know if we've got a better player for turning his man.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:17 am

Pooliekev wrote:

Well no, Matty played more games than Shuggy, about ten more, and scored the same amount of goals. Don't forget he was played out of position as well. Surely you can't rely on a four man team??

I agree that Robson can be a frustrating player sometimes and drifts in and out a bit, but the good side of his game far outweighs the bad side. I don't know if we've got a better player for turning his man.

He has got a massive chin though

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:12 am

Pooliekev wrote:

The popular opinion when Matty is in the team is that 'Matty is going to be crap,' therefore if he played 99 great passes and one went into the Millhouse, he'd be shiit.

Everybody moans about pace and Pools not having any, and I know even now, that the answer is 'yeah but there's no point in having pace if you can't cross.' Eifion Williams couldn't cross his fingers and when he was on the right wing no-one complained.

We are lucky that we have some really great players with a good left foot. If you want to criticise Matty Robson, have a go at his tackling, which is abominable. Matty can be every bit as good as Monkey and I can't think of any stronger praise.

So shaddap!! :grin:

Sorry Mr.Kev....but you just can't compare Matty Robson with Monkhouse!!!! confised

At best Matty Robson is average at everything....Monkhouse is God!!!! :sweeeet:

PS....I'm not a Matty Robson hater....I just think that Monkhouse is a much much better player!!!! :sweeeet:

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:15 am

BillinghamPoolie wrote:

On the subject of released players, anyone going to Darlo to watch Eifion bag a couple more easy goals in a fortnight?

I was telling people at work the other day that I was going....and Mr.Parmo....but I realised yesterday that I'm in Blackpool for the Punk & Skinhead Festival!!!! :evil:

I was hoping to meet up with Mr.WrexMod....or whatever his 'handle' is!!!! confised

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36723

Y'know, I thought he'd left in the summer for some reason... frustrating and prone to miss the bleedin obvious are thoughts that come to mind, he can be infuriating or simply brilliant.... but only in flashes.
The potential is there, but it's taking some wringing out .... it would help if Matty injected some thought into his game and the consistency might follow, sadly I suspect if it aint come out after all this time his game will continue to carry on delighting and infuriating in equal measure.
As for the being a canny lad comments...? an irrelevance.

poolie1964 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:45 am

He is not for us one good game here and there is not and I repeat not good enough. I suspect DW is trying him out in place of monky but I hope not.

BritishWestHpool · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:35 pm **Posts:** 1243

I'm with Jonny - which seems to be criteria for a flogging these days; though there's plenty others making the same point in the past and at the ground.
Matty is an awful left back; full stop. Regardless of where we finished in the league his tackling is a liability, his positioning is frighteningly bad (remember the first half play off final amongst other matches?) and he gives the ball away far too often to be a defensive player.
As suggested elsewhere he can be useful running at defenders if his confidence is up. But he is not a left back in any way, shape or form
I for one will be cheering and encouraging him though, wherever he may start.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:16 pm

chip fireball wrote:

i suspect for the opening game wilson may well opt for humps and mcunnie as wing backs, nelson clark and antwi at the back, and sweens, liddle and boland in the middle to start off.

Yes Wilson seems to have pretty much painted himself into a corner with his supposed best squad doesn't he. I can't see it looking much different to that. And that would probably mean no game for James Brown as well as either Porter or Moore. McCunnie for Brown doesn't sound very appealing at first sight but who knows.

bluhart · **Joined:** Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:46 pm **Posts:** 131

"DW obviously kept him on because he sees potential,".............................

Or he was still under contract. :roll:

parmopooly · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:19 pm

everyone's allowed two or three stinkers per season, not 90% of games played. I 'll reserve judgement for the first couple of appearances he makes.

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