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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:06 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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I'll be getting mine, 3rd year for me. It a very good deal, and a great friendly atmosphere.

Your not getting robbed at that price.


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Never seen them play but I will twice next season - a mate has moved to Alnwick and the home and away ties are an excuse for a few pints.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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I'll be getting mine, 3rd year for me. It a very good deal, and a great friendly atmosphere.

Your not getting robbed at that price.


I might do too as i think they play at home on alternate weeks to Pools (i think) ?

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There was couple of clashes.. But not many.


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There was couple of clashes.. But not many.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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thedno wrote:
I'll be getting mine, 3rd year for me. It a very good deal, and a great friendly atmosphere.

Your not getting robbed at that price.

can understand why you and others will do that. i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership, managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game. i,d guess the crack will be quite good as well like back in my running the line days of the eastern league.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:26 am 
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We were in Selby a couple of years ago and went and watched one of their games.

Nice little ground with a cracking sports bar and good atmosphere.

We enjoyed a couple of pints on the terraces watching the game and the ladies enjoyed some pinot. We even took the dogs as they were allowed in too.

Whilst the standard of football wasn’t to league standard it was a good, entertaining, honest game of football.

I can fully understand people engaging with lower league football as it seems the magic of the game is starting to get lost the higher up the pyramid you get.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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accrington fan wrote:
thedno wrote:
I'll be getting mine, 3rd year for me. It a very good deal, and a great friendly atmosphere.

Your not getting robbed at that price.

can understand why you and others will do that. i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership, managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game. i,d guess the crack will be quite good as well like back in my running the line days of the eastern league.



Thats exactly right. The modern game has become more about the drama surrounding the club than the actual game. Social media is a curse


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.


Behave…..football supporters were kept in the dark, treat like children and fed crap mingled with bullshit from the beginning of time.
Their only recourse was a letter to the local press and that was about it…because the average letter in the old Footy Mail was limited, brief and as controversial as custard, we knew nothing apart from what we saw on the pitch.
Now we have social media, fans have a voice….and those running it would rather we didn’t
Do people really want to go back to a world of not having to think or have opinions about the game and turn up once a fortnight, watch the game and go and not bother our silly little minds because it’s none of our business….no thanks, we’re adults and we have opinions and should express them regardless of good old days sensibilities..

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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.


The more shit the team/club is the better the Superfan Status they preach n get their usual snidy digs in.

That pesky Internet.
The bastads won't agree with me. sctatchinghead :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.

problem is its human nature to show an interest if something affects your life. if the same was happening at ebbsfleet doubt a single poolie would be checking it out or show an interest. pre internet days we,d be buying a newpaper or going to the pub more to hear if someone has fresh information.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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Snowy wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.


Behave…..football supporters were kept in the dark, treat like children and fed crap mingled with bullshit from the beginning of time.
Their only recourse was a letter to the local press and that was about it…because the average letter in the old Footy Mail was limited, brief and as controversial as custard, we knew nothing apart from what we saw on the pitch.
Now we have social media, fans have a voice….and those running it would rather we didn’t
Do people really want to go back to a world of not having to think or have opinions about the game and turn up once a fortnight, watch the game and go and not bother our silly little minds because it’s none of our business….no thanks, we’re adults and we have opinions and should express them regardless of good old days sensibilities..

mind you back in those days football was still a big part of our lives. sometimes it was hard to get a start on monday mornings discussing matches you went to. without a midweek game that was it until friday when talk yet again was around next days match. it must be even harder now for a football widow as they now have football 24/7 now thrown there way. once i was accused of having no interest but football, dogs and cars. now football at this moment of time is taking over which is the reson i rarely post after mid day.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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£90 up from 70 at Horden, the downside of promotion.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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Snowy wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.


Behave…..football supporters were kept in the dark, treat like children and fed crap mingled with bullshit from the beginning of time.
Their only recourse was a letter to the local press and that was about it…because the average letter in the old Footy Mail was limited, brief and as controversial as custard, we knew nothing apart from what we saw on the pitch.
Now we have social media, fans have a voice….and those running it would rather we didn’t
Do people really want to go back to a world of not having to think or have opinions about the game and turn up once a fortnight, watch the game and go and not bother our silly little minds because it’s none of our business….no thanks, we’re adults and we have opinions and should express them regardless of good old days sensibilities..



I would, well go back to the days of talking football at work and down the pub, now its 24/7 all year round, and its tedious, lets face it, most of the posts are twaddle, probably repeating what's been said every year since the start of the internet and the bunker. Its a waste of valuable time, yet here I am posting myself, but at least I'm aware of its addictive tendencies. Its not about being grown up or having opinions, its addictive and a complete waste of a persons time, a letter to the local paper back in the day had much more clout.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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£90 up from 70 at Horden, the downside of promotion.


Used to like the days out at the NL grounds.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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Colin Jack wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.


Behave…..football supporters were kept in the dark, treat like children and fed crap mingled with bullshit from the beginning of time.
Their only recourse was a letter to the local press and that was about it…because the average letter in the old Footy Mail was limited, brief and as controversial as custard, we knew nothing apart from what we saw on the pitch.
Now we have social media, fans have a voice….and those running it would rather we didn’t
Do people really want to go back to a world of not having to think or have opinions about the game and turn up once a fortnight, watch the game and go and not bother our silly little minds because it’s none of our business….no thanks, we’re adults and we have opinions and should express them regardless of good old days sensibilities..



I would, well go back to the days of talking football at work and down the pub, now its 24/7 all year round, and its tedious, lets face it, most of the posts are twaddle, probably repeating what's been said every year since the start of the internet and the bunker. Its a waste of valuable time, yet here I am posting myself, but at least I'm aware of its addictive tendencies. Its not about being grown up or having opinions, its addictive and a complete waste of a persons time, a letter to the local paper back in the day had much more clout.

correct its more addictive than fags. never think about them when i,m out with the dog but always thinking about what i might have missed in a few hours away from the bunker. really if raj had sold out at 1pm yesterday i,d have got the news eventually anyway and after all these weeks does a few extra hours make all that a difference. the biggest laugh is i doubt i,m not the only one who replies to everyone but would never know them if they sat next to me on a bus. at least in the pub or at work you knew who the good guys and the dickheads really were and the piss taker roumour ones were quickly found out.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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Grayhoundend wrote:
Colin Jack wrote:
£90 up from 70 at Horden, the downside of promotion.


Used to like the days out at the NL grounds.

think its just lazyness that stops many doing the same. possibly many new fans these clubs get will be ones who have fallen out with the game at higher levels but still love watching football. there is so much VAR, million pound plus transfers and new ownerships that people can stand. thats before you go to the match and see the ball being passed sideways more than in any other direction and being told thats good football.


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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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Colin Jack wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.


Behave…..football supporters were kept in the dark, treat like children and fed crap mingled with bullshit from the beginning of time.
Their only recourse was a letter to the local press and that was about it…because the average letter in the old Footy Mail was limited, brief and as controversial as custard, we knew nothing apart from what we saw on the pitch.
Now we have social media, fans have a voice….and those running it would rather we didn’t
Do people really want to go back to a world of not having to think or have opinions about the game and turn up once a fortnight, watch the game and go and not bother our silly little minds because it’s none of our business….no thanks, we’re adults and we have opinions and should express them regardless of good old days sensibilities..



I would, well go back to the days of talking football at work and down the pub, now its 24/7 all year round, and its tedious, lets face it, most of the posts are twaddle, probably repeating what's been said every year since the start of the internet and the bunker. Its a waste of valuable time, yet here I am posting myself, but at least I'm aware of its addictive tendencies. Its not about being grown up or having opinions, its addictive and a complete waste of a persons time, a letter to the local paper back in the day had much more clout.


Agree 100%. It's particularly addictive to pompous know-it-alls who treat it as a platform to pontificate and never tire of repeating themselves...
The present level of sectarianism on The Bunker is really depressing. We have our own little branch of the thought police looking to jump on any views that strike them as deviating from 'their' line.
I'm sick to death of being misrepresented by a couple of wiseacres for the sin of pointing out that most actual fans are more interested in going to watch their team than they are in the politics of ownership.
Which is not to say - only an idiot would suggest otherwise - that the Poolie faithful are 'faithful' to the current owner. :roll:


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Flying Hogans wrote:
Colin Jack wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.


Behave…..football supporters were kept in the dark, treat like children and fed crap mingled with bullshit from the beginning of time.
Their only recourse was a letter to the local press and that was about it…because the average letter in the old Footy Mail was limited, brief and as controversial as custard, we knew nothing apart from what we saw on the pitch.
Now we have social media, fans have a voice….and those running it would rather we didn’t
Do people really want to go back to a world of not having to think or have opinions about the game and turn up once a fortnight, watch the game and go and not bother our silly little minds because it’s none of our business….no thanks, we’re adults and we have opinions and should express them regardless of good old days sensibilities..



I would, well go back to the days of talking football at work and down the pub, now its 24/7 all year round, and its tedious, lets face it, most of the posts are twaddle, probably repeating what's been said every year since the start of the internet and the bunker. Its a waste of valuable time, yet here I am posting myself, but at least I'm aware of its addictive tendencies. Its not about being grown up or having opinions, its addictive and a complete waste of a persons time, a letter to the local paper back in the day had much more clout.


Agree 100%. It's particularly addictive to pompous know-it-alls who treat it as a platform to pontificate and never tire of repeating themselves...
The present level of sectarianism on The Bunker is really depressing. We have our own little branch of the thought police looking to jump on any views that strike them as deviating from 'their' line.
I'm sick to death of being misrepresented by a couple of wiseacres for the sin of pointing out that most actual fans are more interested in going to watch their team than they are in the politics of ownership.
Which is not to say - only an idiot would suggest otherwise - that the Poolie faithful are 'faithful' to the current owner. :roll:


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I might be sat next to you first home game.
Mite even see ya at Truro.

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But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.[/quote]

Behave…..football supporters were kept in the dark, treat like children and fed crap mingled with bullshit from the beginning of time.
Their only recourse was a letter to the local press and that was about it…because the average letter in the old Footy Mail was limited, brief and as controversial as custard, we knew nothing apart from what we saw on the pitch.
Now we have social media, fans have a voice….and those running it would rather we didn’t
Do people really want to go back to a world of not having to think or have opinions about the game and turn up once a fortnight, watch the game and go and not bother our silly little minds because it’s none of our business….no thanks, we’re adults and we have opinions and should express them regardless of good old days sensibilities..[/quote]


I would, well go back to the days of talking football at work and down the pub, now its 24/7 all year round, and its tedious, lets face it, most of the posts are twaddle, probably repeating what's been said every year since the start of the internet and the bunker. Its a waste of valuable time, yet here I am posting myself, but at least I'm aware of its addictive tendencies. Its not about being grown up or having opinions, its addictive and a complete waste of a persons time, a letter to the local paper back in the day had much more clout.[/quote]

Agree 100%. It's particularly addictive to pompous know-it-alls who treat it as a platform to pontificate and never tire of repeating themselves...
The present level of sectarianism on The Bunker is really depressing. We have our own little branch of the thought police looking to jump on any views that strike them as deviating from 'their' line.
I'm sick to death of being misrepresented by a couple of wiseacres for the sin of pointing out that most actual fans are more interested in going to watch their team than they are in the politics of ownership.
Which is not to say - only an idiot would suggest otherwise - that the Poolie faithful are 'faithful' to the current owner. :roll:[/quote]

This place is give n take .
All part of the entertainment.

I might be sat next to you first home game.
Mite even see ya at Truro.

:text-lol: :text-bravo:[/quote]

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 Post subject: Re: FC Hartlepool
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Colin Jack wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
i,d guess it would be a similar experiance to watching pools was years ago only with a smaller crowd. no talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite thats taken over the modern game.


But the 'talk about club ownership,managers and the rest of the shite' is optional isn't it? Nobody's forcing us to go online looking for it. Plenty don't.




Behave…..football supporters were kept in the dark, treat like children and fed crap mingled with bullshit from the beginning of time.
Their only recourse was a letter to the local press and that was about it…because the average letter in the old Footy Mail was limited, brief and as controversial as custard, we knew nothing apart from what we saw on the pitch.
Now we have social media, fans have a voice….and those running it would rather we didn’t
Do people really want to go back to a world of not having to think or have opinions about the game and turn up once a fortnight, watch the game and go and not bother our silly little minds because it’s none of our business….no thanks, we’re adults and we have opinions and should express them regardless of good old days sensibilities..



I would, well go back to the days of talking football at work and down the pub, now its 24/7 all year round, and its tedious, lets face it, most of the posts are twaddle, probably repeating what's been said every year since the start of the internet and the bunker. Its a waste of valuable time, yet here I am posting myself, but at least I'm aware of its addictive tendencies. Its not about being grown up or having opinions, its addictive and a complete waste of a persons time, a letter to the local paper back in the day had much more clout.


Agree 100%. It's particularly addictive to pompous know-it-alls who treat it as a platform to pontificate and never tire of repeating themselves...
The present level of sectarianism on The Bunker is really depressing. We have our own little branch of the thought police looking to jump on any views that strike them as deviating from 'their' line.
I'm sick to death of being misrepresented by a couple of wiseacres for the sin of pointing out that most actual fans are more interested in going to watch their team than they are in the politics of ownership.
Which is not to say - only an idiot would suggest otherwise - that the Poolie faithful are 'faithful' to the current owner. :roll:



A ‘pompous know all’ being somebody, anybody, who has opposing views to you I assume….meaning those who don’t mind rocking the boat now and then?

Sectarianism my arse…meaning views you don’t like ….especially when you’re wrong and even more so when challenged.
It’s called debate, and if you don’t like it ….tough, but drop the ‘Ooh it’s awful, handbag clutching’ big girls blouse tactics and painting something that should be welcomed ……. as an exercise in the Devil’s work than simply talking football.
Painting debate as something pathetic to justify your viewpoint and having the brass neck to describe as an idiot anyone who doesn’t share your view as a member of the ‘let’s not rock the boat community’ shows a complete phobia of being challenged.

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