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 Post subject: TV licence cheek
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 11:05 pm 
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The BBC that bastion of woke nonsense, who think they can tell the customer what to do with their own money are apparently pushing to have the TV licence included in your council tax payment, and not only that then it increases with the band your house falls into, so you pay more if you live in a bigger more valuable house.... deluded.

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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
The BBC that bastion of woke nonsense, who think they can tell the customer what to do with their own money are apparently pushing to have the TV licence included in your council tax payment, and not only that then it increases with the band your house falls into, so you pay more if you live in a bigger more valuable house.... deluded.

So the only people paying for a TV licence would be ratepayers …everyone else gets it free.
Why should a person in a high band pay more than a bottom band for the same service…..and anyone not paying rates get it for free.
Do we charge more for gas and electric in higher council tax bands….. in fact why are there any bands, they only empty your bloody bin on a personal level.

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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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Why should people who don’t watch TV pay? This idea is full of holes.


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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
The BBC that bastion of woke nonsense, who think they can tell the customer what to do with their own money are apparently pushing to have the TV licence included in your council tax payment, and not only that then it increases with the band your house falls into, so you pay more if you live in a bigger more valuable house.... deluded.

Will never happen...they'd be riots like the Poll Tax.


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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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Why should people who don’t watch TV pay? This idea is full of holes.

because a lot of what we pay council tax for now is not used by everybody. know its more than annoying that the bbc will do nothing to change the way they collect the revenue they need as if there is no other alternatives.


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Woke = Broke

if pools lasses were having the problems the mens were they,d be broadcasting it.


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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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Why should a person in a high band pay more than a bottom band for the same service…..and anyone not paying rates get it for free.
Do we charge more for gas and electric in higher council tax bands….. in fact why are there any bands, they only empty your bloody bin on a personal level.


The people in the top Council Tax bands, along with the highest Tax Bands are more likely to use Private Education and Private Healthcare, so they are already paying more for less.


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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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I can never understand why there are bands…they empty your bin/bins….on a personal note…but all other services are issued all over the authority so how are bands justified.

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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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I can never understand why there are bands…they empty your bin/bins….on a personal note…but all other services are issued all over the authority so how are bands justified.


I think it's those with broader shoulders pay more. If it was evened out then we'd all take a hit, all the smaller houses would pay more.


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I can never understand why there are bands…they empty your bin/bins….on a personal note…but all other services are issued all over the authority so how are bands justified.


Agree but try unravelling it. It would be political suicide a bit like taking the WFA off pensioners. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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Bluestreak wrote:
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I can never understand why there are bands…they empty your bin/bins….on a personal note…but all other services are issued all over the authority so how are bands justified.


Agree but try unravelling it. It would be political suicide a bit like taking the WFA off pensioners. :laugh:


Because they think if you are in a bigger house you have more income that’s how bands were set, on the value of the property after the Poll Tax was abolished.


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Infidel wrote:
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I can never understand why there are bands…they empty your bin/bins….on a personal note…but all other services are issued all over the authority so how are bands justified.


I think it's those with broader shoulders pay more. If it was evened out then we'd all take a hit, all the smaller houses would pay more.

I see your point, but if we applied that rule across the board you’d pay more for a loaf of bread etc depending on your income…a top band payer only gets the same services as a low band payer…….possibly less…by the way I’m not a high band payer so I haven’t got a dog in the race.

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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Bluestreak wrote:
Snowy wrote:
I can never understand why there are bands…they empty your bin/bins….on a personal note…but all other services are issued all over the authority so how are bands justified.


Agree but try unravelling it. It would be political suicide a bit like taking the WFA off pensioners. :laugh:


Because they think if you are in a bigger house you have more income that’s how bands were set, on the value of the property after the Poll Tax was abolished.

I know how it works …but it’s a flawed system.
You could live in a high rate area in a bungalow alone and have to pull out…yet we have a family over the road from us with five cars on the drive …causing a lot more wear and tear on roads etc yet paying less.

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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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Maybe the council tax should be collected like income tax, based on the income you have coming in.


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Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:
Maybe the council tax should be collected like income tax, based on the income you have coming in.

Excellent idea Mr S.

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 Post subject: Re: TV licence cheek
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Snowy wrote:
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Maybe the council tax should be collected like income tax, based on the income you have coming in.

Excellent idea Mr S.

i have said the same thing since i knew what rates were. that would be closer to the poll tax but with the ability to pay rolled in.


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Maybe Police and Fire Authorities should combine instead of loads of chiefs and very few Indians ?


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never know the reason why there is not a national police force and fire service. crimes and fires are the same wherever you live. just because you join your local police force does not mean you,ll be stationed in the town. more likely sent as far away as they can possibly send you.


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Do people know that if you own a house worth over £320k your council tax band is H, if you own a house in say Westminster worth £35 million it's also band H. Based on 1991 prices I should add.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Do people know that if you own a house worth over £320k your council tax band is H, if you own a house in say Westminster worth £35 million it's also band H. Based on 1991 prices I should add.

all properties will have increased in value since 1991 by the same percentage of the original value back then as long as you do not live in an ex pit villiage.


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I bought a new build house around 2000, the salesperson said Band E, when I got my CT bill it was Band F, I asked the council how bands were determined, the council said by square meterage. They said if I could find a similar size property with the same square meterage as mine in a lower band they would consider my appeal. I did 2 round the corner, I forwarded the details, their reply we must have made a mistake in what band they were in. I could appeal which meant jumping through various costly hopes but I never bothered.
Not sure that was hundred percent correct as Google says it’s based on the valuation of the property.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
I bought a new build house around 2000, the salesperson said Band E, when I got my CT bill it was Band F, I asked the council how bands were determined, the council said by square meterage. They said if I could find a similar size property with the same square meterage as mine in a lower band they would consider my appeal. I did 2 round the corner, I forwarded the details, their reply we must have made a mistake in what band they were in. I could appeal which meant jumping through various costly hopes but I never bothered.
Not sure that was hundred percent correct as Google says it’s based on the valuation of the property.


That's something we have in common then.

I my case I bought a house similar to yours in 2002 when it was seven years old - the seller being the bloke who'd bought it new.

It was a semi on the edge of an ex-council estate that the builder had planning permission to build sixteen of, but for whatever reason only mine and next door were ever built. And it had a council-tax band one level higher than all of the ex-coucil houses nearby that were actually bigger in square feet than mine.

Where I was luckier than you - which does seem to be the norm - was that the bloke next door had been fighting the council ever since he'd moved in, and finally won the case about a year after I'd arrived. Result was they dropped mine too, without me lifting a finger.

And I got a small rebate that paid for a meal in a nice restaurant.


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Another example is that if you turn your 4 bedroomed house into a 6 bedroomed house with say an extension over the garage, the council will keep you in the same band. However they mark the house down in the newer band which they will only apply once he house is sold.


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MutleyRules wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
The BBC that bastion of woke nonsense, who think they can tell the customer what to do with their own money are apparently pushing to have the TV licence included in your council tax payment, and not only that then it increases with the band your house falls into, so you pay more if you live in a bigger more valuable house.... deluded.

Will never happen...they'd be riots like the Poll Tax.


And when they raised the pension age :roll:

I wouldn't be so sure these days, people have been ground down, and have little or no fight in them, governments can literally and are getting away with everything, past generations would never have thought imaginable.


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Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:
Another example is that if you turn your 4 bedroomed house into a 6 bedroomed house with say an extension over the garage, the council will keep you in the same band. However they mark the house down in the newer band which they will only apply once he house is sold.


Yeah, I’ve never understood the logic here. If councils are short of money, they are missing a trick. Why not reevaluate and adjust.


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Infidel wrote:
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Another example is that if you turn your 4 bedroomed house into a 6 bedroomed house with say an extension over the garage, the council will keep you in the same band. However they mark the house down in the newer band which they will only apply once he house is sold.


Yeah, I’ve never understood the logic here. If councils are short of money, they are missing a trick. Why not reevaluate and adjust.


Perhaps because councillors and their chief executives are keen to add extra bedrooms, kitchens and garages to their own homes..?


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Colin Jack wrote:
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
The BBC that bastion of woke nonsense, who think they can tell the customer what to do with their own money are apparently pushing to have the TV licence included in your council tax payment, and not only that then it increases with the band your house falls into, so you pay more if you live in a bigger more valuable house.... deluded.

Will never happen...they'd be riots like the Poll Tax.


And when they raised the pension age :roll:

I wouldn't be so sure these days, people have been ground down, and have little or no fight in them, governments can literally and are getting away with everything, past generations would never have thought imaginable.

think for many that they cannot be arsed unless something directly involves them. how many times have we heard the words, what can we do about it. for many years its been an i,m all right hack country on every subject until things get close to there own doorsteps that is.


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Kenny Bottles wrote:
Infidel wrote:
Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:
Another example is that if you turn your 4 bedroomed house into a 6 bedroomed house with say an extension over the garage, the council will keep you in the same band. However they mark the house down in the newer band which they will only apply once he house is sold.


Yeah, I’ve never understood the logic here. If councils are short of money, they are missing a trick. Why not reevaluate and adjust.


Perhaps because councillors and their chief executives are keen to add extra bedrooms, kitchens and garages to their own homes..?


Don’t you pay more CT if you convert your integral garage into a living area ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Kenny Bottles wrote:
Infidel wrote:
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Another example is that if you turn your 4 bedroomed house into a 6 bedroomed house with say an extension over the garage, the council will keep you in the same band. However they mark the house down in the newer band which they will only apply once he house is sold.


Yeah, I’ve never understood the logic here. If councils are short of money, they are missing a trick. Why not reevaluate and adjust.


Perhaps because councillors and their chief executives are keen to add extra bedrooms, kitchens and garages to their own homes..?


Don’t you pay more CT if you convert your integral garage into a living area ?


Not sure as the Nash pay mine.

Which is why I'm currently extending the player's lounge in the billiard room and erecting a fo'castle on the mezzanine deck...


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