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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:16 am 
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If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement


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If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement

We haven’t had a statement off Raj yet of any sustance.

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bluebottle wrote:
If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement


They can't say anything as Raj will throw his toys out of the pram again - like he did after Shelley posted update message on social media on Saturday. That's assuming they're still intending on trying to buy the club?


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bluebottle wrote:
If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement

you may be right you may be wrong. thats the problem we do not know anything. its getting close to the time fans have to decide one way or another without the current vote which of the two sides they support. all i would say is if any buyer has no money then why go down the line of attempting to purchase the club anyway. its like going into a car dealership and trying to buy a new car with nothing to buy it with. a waste of your time and theres.


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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Kettering Poolie wrote:
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If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement


They can't say anything as Raj will throw his toys out of the pram again - like he did after Shelley posted update message on social media on Saturday. That's assuming they're still intending on trying to buy the club?

could see anybody walking away from doing a deal now. its not worth all the hassle involved now never mind the problems they,d encounter once the sale went through. who really needs an extra problem in their lives. know for a fact i wouldn,t.


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:37 am 
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bluebottle wrote:
If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement


They could well have the money, however if you go to buy a house you can afford but then a survey says it’s subsiding and will cost as much again to correct, you aren’t going to buy it at the asking price.


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:41 am 
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bluebottle wrote:
If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement


They made one a week or so ago, And look what happened.

The best they can do is exactly what they are doing now.imo


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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accrington fan wrote:
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If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement

you may be right you may be wrong. thats the problem we do not know anything. its getting close to the time fans have to decide one way or another without the current vote which of the two sides they support. all i would say is if any buyer has no money then why go down the line of attempting to purchase the club anyway. its like going into a car dealership and trying to buy a new car with nothing to buy it with. a waste of your time and theres.


Accy do you believe votes will be counted, I don,t.
Thinks its already been decided.


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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Grayhoundend wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement

you may be right you may be wrong. thats the problem we do not know anything. its getting close to the time fans have to decide one way or another without the current vote which of the two sides they support. all i would say is if any buyer has no money then why go down the line of attempting to purchase the club anyway. its like going into a car dealership and trying to buy a new car with nothing to buy it with. a waste of your time and theres.


Accy do you believe votes will be counted, I don,t.
Thinks its already been decided.

That 100%


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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loan_star wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement


They could well have the money, however if you go to buy a house you can afford but then a survey says it’s subsiding and will cost as much again to correct, you aren’t going to buy it at the asking price.


May be something has been found, Would explain the dummy spitting


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:45 am 
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BTW...has it been said when voting closes?? sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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loan_star wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement


They could well have the money, however if you go to buy a house you can afford but then a survey says it’s subsiding and will cost as much again to correct, you aren’t going to buy it at the asking price.

finance aint my thing but i,d guess the club might be cheaper to buy if it was in admin rather than dealing with somebody who wants to screw every single penny out of them.


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:47 am 
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I thought raj had said they don’t have the money. They have not denied this . Ask yourself why they want to take over the club . It’s not to make money do what else are they interested in


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:49 am 
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Grayhoundend wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement

you may be right you may be wrong. thats the problem we do not know anything. its getting close to the time fans have to decide one way or another without the current vote which of the two sides they support. all i would say is if any buyer has no money then why go down the line of attempting to purchase the club anyway. its like going into a car dealership and trying to buy a new car with nothing to buy it with. a waste of your time and theres.


Accy do you believe votes will be counted, I don,t.
Thinks its already been decided.


I think you’re right but not sure which way!
Will he say, the fans love me, I’ll save the club again or if no, use it as an excuse to get other people to fund the club for a few weeks while the deal is completed. It’s just a derogation of his duty as owner.
I don’t see a scenario where he stops funding and then the takeover fails because he would be totally devaluing his asset. (I’m probably applying too much logic to Raj there mind.’


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 11:08 am 
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Mikey76 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
If the people who wished to takeover the club had the money the sale would have been completed by now . Interesting they have made no comment to rajs statement

you may be right you may be wrong. thats the problem we do not know anything. its getting close to the time fans have to decide one way or another without the current vote which of the two sides they support. all i would say is if any buyer has no money then why go down the line of attempting to purchase the club anyway. its like going into a car dealership and trying to buy a new car with nothing to buy it with. a waste of your time and theres.


Accy do you believe votes will be counted, I don,t.
Thinks its already been decided.


I think you’re right but not sure which way!
Will he say, the fans love me, I’ll save the club again or if no, use it as an excuse to get other people to fund the club for a few weeks while the deal is completed. It’s just a derogation of his duty as owner.
I don’t see a scenario where he stops funding and then the takeover fails because he would be totally devaluing his asset. (I’m probably applying too much logic to Raj there mind.’

surely everything will be above board as we know football clubs are all honest, open and think of there fans over every other aspects of the club.


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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MutleyRules wrote:
BTW...has it been said when voting closes?? sctatchinghead


Yes, midnight today.


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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need to tell farage there,s a vote going on about the reform of our club. we,d get some real publicity over it with him arriving in the town to greet the winner pint in hand in the corner flag.


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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bluebottle wrote:
I thought raj had said they don’t have the money. They have not denied this . Ask yourself why they want to take over the club . It’s not to make money do what else are they interested in



He did: "categorically at this time there is no party in a position with funds to immediately take over the Club." it's the same statement on the email to ST holders and the OS.

Personally I can't see any reason for SH & co. not to go public and refute Raj's claim if they're able to. What's Raj going to do? Report them to the NDA monitor and ask that they be given lines? :roll: Refuse their money out of spite?

There's now about a dozen threads on here all on the same subject, all going round in circles till either -
1) new owners step forward and buy the club
2) Raj announces that he's carrying on
3) Raj puts the club into administration.


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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If she doesn’t reply then he is telling the truth. So let him carry on or go bust .then no football club


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So you’re voting for him to stay….because that’s how you’re coming over to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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If she doesn’t reply then he is telling the truth. So let him carry on or go bust .then no football club

This is absolute shite by the way.

If she wants to buy the club what use does going public and saying 'I have the money here it is' do? Raj hates anyone going public, read the statements about a breach of confidentiality when all she said was she was undergoing due diligence, something the club had said in their own statement. If she goes public any chance of her buying the club goes with it, takeovers aren't sorted publicly with slagging matches, why would she jeopardise something she's been trying to sort for a year just for some points and to prove the doubters wrong?


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I will be voting for him to stay... as much as it pains me to do so, I have nothing but loathing for Raj.
Unfortunately its the only way I see us surviving, it might buy us the time needed to get somebody to buy the club


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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Snowy . Why do they want to buy the club ? It’s not to make money . Have they hot any money ?


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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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bluebottle wrote:
If she doesn’t reply then he is telling the truth. So let him carry on or go bust .then no football club

Are you ok? What a terrible take.


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Borthwicks-Tash wrote:
I will be voting for him to stay... as much as it pains me to do so, I have nothing but loathing for Raj.
Unfortunately its the only way I see us surviving, it might buy us the time needed to get somebody to buy the club



It's Sings tenure forever or Administration.

Anyone thinks hes got the club up for sale and still is needs a new brain.

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Boycott into Administration will be the quickest way to get back to the EFL unless ya believe in fairy tales.

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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
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I can’t believe people think voting yes gives more time for someone to takeover… more time for more debts to be added and Singh to piss about with the fans more like.


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I can’t believe people think voting yes gives more time for someone to takeover… more time for more debts to be added and Singh to piss about with the fans more like.


Excellent 1st post of basic reality.
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 Post subject: Re: Proposed takeover
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 1:51 pm 
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If she doesn’t reply then he is telling the truth. So let him carry on or go bust .then no football club

This is absolute shite by the way.

If she wants to buy the club what use does going public and saying 'I have the money here it is' do? Raj hates anyone going public, read the statements about a breach of confidentiality when all she said was she was undergoing due diligence, something the club had said in their own statement. If she goes public any chance of her buying the club goes with it, takeovers aren't sorted publicly with slagging matches, why would she jeopardise something she's been trying to sort for a year just for some points and to prove the doubters wrong?


If Piriyev has anthing to do with Shelley, then it might be interesting to look at what happened with his attempt to takeover the Hammers when he was dealing with their chairman David O'Sullivan. Proof of funds and going public was again an issue.

"Piriyev claims that despite the public nature of PAI Capital's approach for West Ham, "we prefer to announce projects only when they are complete and successfully delivered while any leakage to public domain of a project in the making is risky."
The question and answer session continued from this comment by the managing partner:

Are you referring to David Sullivan’s recent comments about rumours of your takeover bid?
"Yes - and we were very surprised to see him commenting to some unofficial information and rumours. I am sure the club owners receive many offers why take it into the public domain before anything is agreed?
If Mr. Sullivan does not agree to our offer price, he has the full right to do so because the shares are his private property. Although I do believe any owner of a Premier League club and a brand of West Ham’s calibre must also feel a duty to the community and fans - but what he cannot do is simply say that we are not serious. That is false information, but we are not going to fall for this move and do not want to escalate any conflict. So, with all respect to Mr. Sullivan, we will continue pursuing this opportunity and make our best efforts to get him to agree to our offer and sell his controlling stake of the club.

They claim you did not provide the Proof of Funds. Did you?
Of course we did. Otherwise why would the club officially provide us access to their data room for two whole months?
Our team went though every smallest detail and analysed every aspect of the club’s operations – from top salary earners down to the smallest cost items. Based on this data and thorough analysis, we have developed our business plan for the club. I totally understand that the fans would like to know more about our plan and want to hear concrete figures and how much we will allocate to transfers etc. But there really is no point for us to make such announcements until we know we have agreed terms of purchase."
https://www.football.london/west-ham-un ... d-21294916


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Crazybird wrote:
Krampesh wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
If she doesn’t reply then he is telling the truth. So let him carry on or go bust .then no football club

This is absolute shite by the way.

If she wants to buy the club what use does going public and saying 'I have the money here it is' do? Raj hates anyone going public, read the statements about a breach of confidentiality when all she said was she was undergoing due diligence, something the club had said in their own statement. If she goes public any chance of her buying the club goes with it, takeovers aren't sorted publicly with slagging matches, why would she jeopardise something she's been trying to sort for a year just for some points and to prove the doubters wrong?


If Piriyev has anthing to do with Shelley, then it might be interesting to look what happened with his attempt to takeover the Hammers when he was dealing with their chairman David O'Sullivan. Proof of funds and going public was again an issue.



This isn't relevant though is it? Proof of funds might be an issue here but going public isn't. All she did was reveal she was the one who was in discussions, she hasn't said anything other than that and the fact she was undertaking due diligence. The club revealed a party was in due diligence first not her and she had already been linked in the media due to 'The Club HUFC Ltd' being created on companies house. Quite frankly she did nothing wrong for me. She hasn't said this is what I want to do, this is the amount of money I want to pump in etc., like Piriyev did back then, which would be an issue.


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I thought raj had said they don’t have the money. They have not denied this . Ask yourself why they want to take over the club . It’s not to make money do what else are they interested in



He did: "categorically at this time there is no party in a position with funds to immediately take over the Club." it's the same statement on the email to ST holders and the OS.

Personally I can't see any reason for SH & co. not to go public and refute Raj's claim if they're able to. What's Raj going to do? Report them to the NDA monitor and ask that they be given lines? :roll: Refuse their money out of spite?

There's now about a dozen threads on here all on the same subject, all going round in circles till either -
1) new owners step forward and buy the club
2) Raj announces that he's carrying on
3) Raj puts the club into administration.


Well for starters if he puts the club into administration, HE loses control Immediately, As control is handed to the Administrator.

An Administrator would then identify potential buyers, And According to the club there are more than 1, Imo there is only 1 creditable option.
The adminstrator would then work with the supposed buyer, To the satisfaction of the creditors.
The club would then be sold.

Simplified for my benifit.


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Snowy . Why do they want to buy the club ? It’s not to make money . Have they hot any money ?


Why did Raj buy the club, Don,t say because he has the money.
Because it does not look like it now.

He said " I want to right the wrongs" Dig at the Darlo fans.

Remember when he said "Keith Curle is the best manager i have employed" Dig at DC


Its my opinion the DD has found something and Raj is trying it on.
What normally happens in this case is a compromse is found, And may well happen.


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Borthwicks-Tash wrote:
I will be voting for him to stay... as much as it pains me to do so, I have nothing but loathing for Raj.
Unfortunately its the only way I see us surviving, it might buy us the time needed to get somebody to buy the club


Thats your choice mate, You do whats right for you.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
I thought raj had said they don’t have the money. They have not denied this . Ask yourself why they want to take over the club . It’s not to make money do what else are they interested in



He did: "categorically at this time there is no party in a position with funds to immediately take over the Club." it's the same statement on the email to ST holders and the OS.

Personally I can't see any reason for SH & co. not to go public and refute Raj's claim if they're able to. What's Raj going to do? Report them to the NDA monitor and ask that they be given lines? :roll: Refuse their money out of spite?

There's now about a dozen threads on here all on the same subject, all going round in circles till either -
1) new owners step forward and buy the club
2) Raj announces that he's carrying on
3) Raj puts the club into administration.


Well for starters if he puts the club into administration, HE loses control Immediately, As control is handed to the Administrator.

An Administrator would then identify potential buyers, And According to the club there are more than 1, Imo there is only 1 creditable option.
The adminstrator would then work with the supposed buyer, To the satisfaction of the creditors.
The club would then be sold.

Simplified for my benifit.


Raj is the main creditor though, so would only be sold if he agrees to whatever % of the debt he has being paid--it may be the best way to go, as would be a case of starting a new and not some 'success' related bonuses sitting around....I think Raj managed to get some of the Dan Burn money but I may have that wrong


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
I thought raj had said they don’t have the money. They have not denied this . Ask yourself why they want to take over the club . It’s not to make money do what else are they interested in



He did: "categorically at this time there is no party in a position with funds to immediately take over the Club." it's the same statement on the email to ST holders and the OS.

Personally I can't see any reason for SH & co. not to go public and refute Raj's claim if they're able to. What's Raj going to do? Report them to the NDA monitor and ask that they be given lines? :roll: Refuse their money out of spite?

There's now about a dozen threads on here all on the same subject, all going round in circles till either -
1) new owners step forward and buy the club
2) Raj announces that he's carrying on
3) Raj puts the club into administration.


Well for starters if he puts the club into administration, HE loses control Immediately, As control is handed to the Administrator.

An Administrator would then identify potential buyers, And According to the club there are more than 1, Imo there is only 1 creditable option.
The adminstrator would then work with the supposed buyer, To the satisfaction of the creditors.
The club would then be sold.

Simplified for my benifit.


Raj is the main creditor though, so would only be sold if he agrees to whatever % of the debt he has being paid--it may be the best way to go, as would be a case of starting a new and not some 'success' related bonuses sitting around....I think Raj managed to get some of the Dan Burn money but I may have that wrong


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Grayhoundend wrote:
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I will be voting for him to stay... as much as it pains me to do so, I have nothing but loathing for Raj.
Unfortunately its the only way I see us surviving, it might buy us the time needed to get somebody to buy the club


Thats your choice mate, You do whats right for you.



Agree different circumstances for everyone and no sense arguing with people who come on the different side of a difficult decision--I blame the fool who forced that decision.


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Krampesh wrote:
Crazybird wrote:
Krampesh wrote:
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If she doesn’t reply then he is telling the truth. So let him carry on or go bust .then no football club

This is absolute shite by the way.

If she wants to buy the club what use does going public and saying 'I have the money here it is' do? Raj hates anyone going public, read the statements about a breach of confidentiality when all she said was she was undergoing due diligence, something the club had said in their own statement. If she goes public any chance of her buying the club goes with it, takeovers aren't sorted publicly with slagging matches, why would she jeopardise something she's been trying to sort for a year just for some points and to prove the doubters wrong?


If Piriyev has anthing to do with Shelley, then it might be interesting to look what happened with his attempt to takeover the Hammers when he was dealing with their chairman David O'Sullivan. Proof of funds and going public was again an issue.



This isn't relevant though is it? Proof of funds might be an issue here but going public isn't. All she did was reveal she was the one who was in discussions, she hasn't said anything other than that and the fact she was undertaking due diligence. The club revealed a party was in due diligence first not her and she had already been linked in the media due to 'The Club HUFC Ltd' being created on companies house. Quite frankly she did nothing wrong for me. She hasn't said this is what I want to do, this is the amount of money I want to pump in etc., like Piriyev did back then, which would be an issue.


100% Agree and anyone saying otherwise has a vested interest. :wink:


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loyal_fan wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
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I thought raj had said they don’t have the money. They have not denied this . Ask yourself why they want to take over the club . It’s not to make money do what else are they interested in



He did: "categorically at this time there is no party in a position with funds to immediately take over the Club." it's the same statement on the email to ST holders and the OS.

Personally I can't see any reason for SH & co. not to go public and refute Raj's claim if they're able to. What's Raj going to do? Report them to the NDA monitor and ask that they be given lines? :roll: Refuse their money out of spite?

There's now about a dozen threads on here all on the same subject, all going round in circles till either -
1) new owners step forward and buy the club
2) Raj announces that he's carrying on
3) Raj puts the club into administration.


Well for starters if he puts the club into administration, HE loses control Immediately, As control is handed to the Administrator.


An Administrator would then identify potential buyers, And According to the club there are more than 1, Imo there is only 1 creditable option.
The adminstrator would then work with the supposed buyer, To the satisfaction of the creditors.
The club would then be sold.

Simplified for my benifit.


Raj is the main creditor though, so would only be sold if he agrees to whatever % of the debt he has being paid--it may be the best way to go, as would be a case of starting a new and not some 'success' related bonuses sitting around....I think Raj managed to get some of the Dan Burn money but I may have that wrong


Aye Cut his nose off to spite his face.

Then he will be showing EVERYONE his true self, Including his family.
And basicly Shitting on HIS Interim Board.


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 2:55 pm 
Piriyev once said ..

"It depends on the situation, and it depends on the assets that are there in the financial situation but of course it is easier to buy something that is distressed, turn it around and create value rather than buy something at its peak.
When it is doing well there isn't much room for improvement."
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/ ... am-6037205

Obvious.. but so very true.
Think it's fair to say as of today we would fall into that "distressed" category.
Extremely distressed or "distressed no pulse" may be on the horizon.
I can see the possibility of a BBC news headline next week along the lines of
"Hartlepools fans vote for liquidation."
One fan from the town said "Bring it on.. it can't come soon enough for me like."
Further BBC commentary "Well they did hang a monkey ...and also elected a monkey for mayor !!"
Can't wait.


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Crazybird wrote:
Piriyev once said ..

"It depends on the situation, and it depends on the assets that are there in the financial situation but of course it is easier to buy something that is distressed, turn it around and create value rather than buy something at its peak.
When it is doing well there isn't much room for improvement."
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/ ... am-6037205

Obvious.. but so very true.
Think it's fair to say as of today we would fall into that "distressed" category.
Extremely distressed or "distressed no pulse" may be on the horizon.
I can see the possibility of a BBC news headline next week along the lines of
"Hartlepools fans vote for liquidation."
One fan from the town said "Bring it on.. it can't come soon enough for me like."
Further BBC commentary "Well they did hang a monkey ...and also elected a monkey for mayor !!"
Can't wait.

Are you Raj…?

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Snowy . Why do they want to buy the club ? It’s not to make money . Have they hot any money ?

Why did Raj buy the club….who knows …..why does anyone buy a club ….but that’s no reason to hang onto the wreckage of what we’ve got now.

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Crazybird wrote:
Piriyev once said ..

"It depends on the situation, and it depends on the assets that are there in the financial situation but of course it is easier to buy something that is distressed, turn it around and create value rather than buy something at its peak.
When it is doing well there isn't much room for improvement."
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/ ... am-6037205

Obvious.. but so very true.
Think it's fair to say as of today we would fall into that "distressed" category.
Extremely distressed or "distressed no pulse" may be on the horizon.
I can see the possibility of a BBC news headline next week along the lines of
"Hartlepools fans vote for liquidation."
One fan from the town said "Bring it on.. it can't come soon enough for me like."
Further BBC commentary "Well they did hang a monkey ...and also elected a monkey for mayor !!"
Can't wait.

Poolie1/waddell/whatever other name you go under, it's time to put your love of our custodian aside. The only person who has the power to do this is Raj Singh, why can't he just fund the club until the takeover is done like a normal person? And if he isn't keen on losing the money he put into the club why did he not put in the amount he was prepared to lose each season instead?
I would also suggest the fact you're back says this takeover is never going to happen


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Krampesh wrote:
Crazybird wrote:
Piriyev once said ..

"It depends on the situation, and it depends on the assets that are there in the financial situation but of course it is easier to buy something that is distressed, turn it around and create value rather than buy something at its peak.
When it is doing well there isn't much room for improvement."
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/ ... am-6037205

Obvious.. but so very true.
Think it's fair to say as of today we would fall into that "distressed" category.
Extremely distressed or "distressed no pulse" may be on the horizon.
I can see the possibility of a BBC news headline next week along the lines of
"Hartlepools fans vote for liquidation."
One fan from the town said "Bring it on.. it can't come soon enough for me like."
Further BBC commentary "Well they did hang a monkey ...and also elected a monkey for mayor !!"
Can't wait.

Poolie1/waddell/whatever other name you go under, it's time to put your love of our custodian aside. The only person who has the power to do this is Raj Singh, why can't he just fund the club until the takeover is done like a normal person? And if he isn't keen on losing the money he put into the club why did he not put in the amount he was prepared to lose each season instead?
I would also suggest the fact you're back says this takeover is never going to happen


I agree. Read the room. Go pedal your propaganda elsewhere.


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If this Crazybird is really the Crow - You should be ashamed, getting involved with blackmailing fans. Whatever happens you’ll be remembered for being on the wrong side of the argument. You’ve shafted the fanbase for your own gain. Shame.


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Mikey76 wrote:
If this Crazybird is really the Crow - You should be ashamed, getting involved with blackmailing fans. Whatever happens you’ll be remembered for being on the wrong side of the argument. You’ve shafted the fanbase for your own gain. Shame.


Can anybody claim they speak for the fanbase? A few score posting on the Bunker? Maybe low 3 figures including other social media?

I only feel like I'm in touch with the fanbase when I'm at the game, and despite the cynicism some (non-attenders) express about home gates being massaged, there was definintely about 4,000 in for the FGR game.


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From someone who knows Shelley's brother...

Neil, Shelleys brother, said this about 1 hour ago....."Our Shell is a pretty private person and she wouldn't get into a public back and forth on the takeover. She'll focus on getting the job done so I reckon she's definitely doing all she can right now.


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Its so transparent the threads 'Bluebottle' and 'Crazybird' post on.....reminds me of that Waddell character before he was banned


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loyal_fan wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
I thought raj had said they don’t have the money. They have not denied this . Ask yourself why they want to take over the club . It’s not to make money do what else are they interested in



He did: "categorically at this time there is no party in a position with funds to immediately take over the Club." it's the same statement on the email to ST holders and the OS.

Personally I can't see any reason for SH & co. not to go public and refute Raj's claim if they're able to. What's Raj going to do? Report them to the NDA monitor and ask that they be given lines? :roll: Refuse their money out of spite?

There's now about a dozen threads on here all on the same subject, all going round in circles till either -
1) new owners step forward and buy the club
2) Raj announces that he's carrying on
3) Raj puts the club into administration.


Well for starters if he puts the club into administration, HE loses control Immediately, As control is handed to the Administrator.

An Administrator would then identify potential buyers, And According to the club there are more than 1, Imo there is only 1 creditable option.
The adminstrator would then work with the supposed buyer, To the satisfaction of the creditors.
The club would then be sold.

Simplified for my benifit.


Raj is the main creditor though, so would only be sold if he agrees to whatever % of the debt he has being paid--it may be the best way to go, as would be a case of starting a new and not some 'success' related bonuses sitting around....I think Raj managed to get some of the Dan Burn money but I may have that wrong


He did, also Michael Smith if I remember correctly. He would have got even more had Burn not left Fulham on a free at the end of his contract.


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MutleyRules wrote:
From someone who knows Shelley's brother...

Neil, Shelleys brother, said this about 1 hour ago....."Our Shell is a pretty private person and she wouldn't get into a public back and forth on the takeover. She'll focus on getting the job done so I reckon she's definitely doing all she can right now.


That was on Twitter this morning.


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 8:58 pm 
Yep.. Shelley Belle is definitely the shy quiet type.
Lacking a bit of self confidence perhaps?
Probably doesn't get out much.
Fits in with her extensive Facebook photo album.
Shame really.
https://www.facebook.com/shelley.b.hammond/photos_by


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