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 Post subject: The 'Vote'!!
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 6:09 am 
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I can't wait for the 'vote' results to be published...I wonder what they'll be!! :laugh:


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I can't wait for the 'vote' results to be published...I wonder what they'll be!! :laugh:


If it’s 127,674 for remain and 3 for go, I ‘ll question the outcome :laugh:

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You know he has probably has brought about 3,200 season ticket yesterday afternoon for his friends and family. So he can control the result. bbolt


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Heard they're bought a vote counting system from Russia.


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The vote is basically, YES - do we want him back as Chairman and him to fund the club to the same level as last season.
Or, NO - do we want to decline his offer and be self sustaining.

Imo, that effectively means do we want to play at NL level or at a level (s) lower. I've voted YES purely to guarantee NL participation.

Can't understand why a deal cannot be done given that he says acceptable offers have been made, why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered? Have they found skeletons in the cupboard?
Also, if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims, or giving their side of the story?

We need to start serious planning for next season whatever level so I suppose we'll find out by Saturday what direction we're heading in.


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The vote is basically, YES - do we want him back as Chairman and him to fund the club to the same level as last season.
Or, NO - do we want to decline his offer and be self sustaining.

Imo, that effectively means do we want to play at NL level or at a level (s) lower. I've voted YES purely to guarantee NL participation.

Can't understand why a deal cannot be done given that he says acceptable offers have been made, why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered? Have they found skeletons in the cupboard?
Also, if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims, or giving their side of the story?

We need to start serious planning for next season whatever level so I suppose we'll find out by Saturday what direction we're heading in.


The vote is a farce and a stunt. All the conclusions you are drawing from it are based on it being something real when it's just bollocks (not a dig). This is an adulation gathering exercise for one man. If he cares about the club then just bloody fund it, if he's considering it then it is obviously possible (even though just tacked onto the final tab). Stop asking for worship. He clearly knows how to put fans in an awkward position and sew divide. We can't let that be caused by a stupid nonsense vote.

The buyers clearly know how to handle this situation and this man Singh, i.e. by saying nothing.


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And by saying he'll continue to fund it by the same amount as last season, is that funding going to include parachute payments that have stopped??


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I read it as ‘I’ll put in the same amount of money as I did last season’ so our budget will be ~£200,000 less due to no parachute payments.
The thing I find mental about all this is the wording of it. It sounds to me like option A is Raj funds the club until a FUTURE takeover happens, so the current suitors are chased and we have to rely on hope that someone else comes in for the club. If you believe Raj, it’s been 2 whole years the club has been up for sale and no one has been able to buy the club. So the likelihood of a party who want to buy us emerging over the next year who can satisfy the conditions Raj sets is slim to none, we have the last 2 years as proof. So then what happens next summer? The same vote gets sent out? Raj decides he wants to be a football club owner? Or will he lose interest for the third time in 3 years and that’ll be the end of us?
I know what I’d put my money on.


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And by saying he'll continue to fund it by the same amount as last season, is that funding going to include parachute payments that have stopped??


Has he even said anything about the level of funding?


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If the vote turn out is the same as the match day attendence announcement we will know it is dodgy


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bobby lemonade wrote:
And by saying he'll continue to fund it by the same amount as last season, is that funding going to include parachute payments that have stopped??


Has he even said anything about the level of funding?


Yeah, he's said same levels as last season. Regardless, the whole thing is a farce, just an exercise in ,'well that's what you asked for'.
I'm struggling to see how a businessman is prepared to make himself look utterly ridiculous. I'm hoping he's got an end game resulting in a takeover and this is just him trying to push things along, business stuff that joe public doesn't understand.
I won't be voting, it's just validating him, and like a lot of people ill be staying away until he's gone and I never thought I'd do that.


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Sounds like he is on the verge of dicking around yet another buyer and will be staying, this time claiming the 'genuine' fans wanted him to. Well it sounds like those Rajophiles will be finding themselves with less and less company. They're welcome to it.


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If the club was listed on the British West Hartlepool Stock Exchange the share price would be. 005p per share after the recent statements by the Club.


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be like the brexit vote where both sides will not get what they actually want.


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I know of people who have voted yes and who have voted no. The yeses are all voting for the club to stay in Div 5 the nos are prepared to tell him to do one and we take our chances.
We all do what's right in our own minds, but it does sound like he'll be staying on.


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Just seen a Facebook poll and it's
20%yes for sing

66% Fcuk off Sing.

14% abstaining.


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He claims Proof of funds are required by teh Nat League for us to compete.....but then also says an option is for him not to fund us and us be self sustaining?--So does that mean teh nat league kicks us out?--or is it just the case he is the guarantor but in reality the funds arent used?

Cards on the table Singh....how much of your own money (not loans) have you put in, and how much are you committing if we get a yes vote?

Whole thing is a joke and the sooner he leaves the better--I suspect we may be in a worse case scenario job where we limp along, go belly up sometime this season and then have to form a new club.....this is where the trust need to come in with what the plan B is for starting again--I think there will be more traction for that now people have seen the shitshow that we are in now full on.


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Sounds like he is on the verge of dicking around yet another buyer and will be staying, this time claiming the 'genuine' fans wanted him to. Well it sounds like those Rajophiles will be finding themselves with less and less company. They're welcome to it.


He will of also pissed off a lot of the players off.

Only satisfy the shit ones who nobody else wants.
And new recruitment
The usual last payday crocks.

Instamatic relegation team on its way.


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I can't wait for the 'vote' results to be published...I wonder what they'll be!! :laugh:


Who said its going to be published, You not heard of NDA :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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I just re-upped a lost form Jan 2024.....then it was a '3 year plan' he needed to see, even though he didnt have one himself---its just more of the same ever changing requirements...i dont see any quick end to it either.


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The vote is basically, YES - do we want him back as Chairman and him to fund the club to the same level as last season.
Or, NO - do we want to decline his offer and be self sustaining.

Imo, that effectively means do we want to play at NL level or at a level (s) lower. I've voted YES purely to guarantee NL participation.

Can't understand why a deal cannot be done given that he says acceptable offers have been made, why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered? Have they found skeletons in the cupboard?
Also, if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims, or giving their side of the story?

We need to start serious planning for next season whatever level so I suppose we'll find out by Saturday what direction we're heading in.


Your vote your choice 100%

"why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered?"....Who said they wont.
"Have they found skeletons in the cupboard"...More than likely, And Raj is trying it on for a quick outcome.
" if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims"...Look what happened last time...Its called Raj LAW i can do what i like, You cant.
" fund the club to the same level as last season"... Which will be a lot less this season, Price rises.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
PTID wrote:
The vote is basically, YES - do we want him back as Chairman and him to fund the club to the same level as last season.
Or, NO - do we want to decline his offer and be self sustaining.

Imo, that effectively means do we want to play at NL level or at a level (s) lower. I've voted YES purely to guarantee NL participation.

Can't understand why a deal cannot be done given that he says acceptable offers have been made, why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered? Have they found skeletons in the cupboard?
Also, if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims, or giving their side of the story?

We need to start serious planning for next season whatever level so I suppose we'll find out by Saturday what direction we're heading in.


Your vote your choice 100%

"why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered?"....Who said they wont.
"Have they found skeletons in the cupboard"...More than likely, And Raj is trying it on for a quick outcome.
" if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims"...Look what happened last time...Its called Raj LAW i can do what i like, You cant.
" fund the club to the same level as last season"... Which will be a lot less this season, Price rises.



yes the fund the club to the same level does NOT mean same budget given the loss of parachute payments


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loyal_fan wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
PTID wrote:
The vote is basically, YES - do we want him back as Chairman and him to fund the club to the same level as last season.
Or, NO - do we want to decline his offer and be self sustaining.

Imo, that effectively means do we want to play at NL level or at a level (s) lower. I've voted YES purely to guarantee NL participation.

Can't understand why a deal cannot be done given that he says acceptable offers have been made, why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered? Have they found skeletons in the cupboard?
Also, if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims, or giving their side of the story?

We need to start serious planning for next season whatever level so I suppose we'll find out by Saturday what direction we're heading in.


Your vote your choice 100%

"why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered?"....Who said they wont.
"Have they found skeletons in the cupboard"...More than likely, And Raj is trying it on for a quick outcome.
" if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims"...Look what happened last time...Its called Raj LAW i can do what i like, You cant.
" fund the club to the same level as last season"... Which will be a lot less this season, Price rises.



yes the fund the club to the same level does NOT mean same budget given the loss of parachute payments


There are players who will LEAVE Manni has more or less said this and others will be gone.
As things stand we will find ourselves in a relegation battle before a ball is kicked.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
PTID wrote:
The vote is basically, YES - do we want him back as Chairman and him to fund the club to the same level as last season.
Or, NO - do we want to decline his offer and be self sustaining.

Imo, that effectively means do we want to play at NL level or at a level (s) lower. I've voted YES purely to guarantee NL participation.

Can't understand why a deal cannot be done given that he says acceptable offers have been made, why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered? Have they found skeletons in the cupboard?
Also, if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims, or giving their side of the story?

We need to start serious planning for next season whatever level so I suppose we'll find out by Saturday what direction we're heading in.


Your vote your choice 100%

"why won't the prospective buyers stump up the cash they've offered?"....Who said they wont.
"Have they found skeletons in the cupboard"...More than likely, And Raj is trying it on for a quick outcome.
" if Raj is going public then why are the buyers not doing the same and refuting his claims"...Look what happened last time...Its called Raj LAW i can do what i like, You cant.
" fund the club to the same level as last season"... Which will be a lot less this season, Price rises.



yes the fund the club to the same level does NOT mean same budget given the loss of parachute payments


There are players who will LEAVE Manni has more or less said this and others will be gone.
As things stand we will find ourselves in a relegation battle before a ball is kicked.


I think Saturday will come and everyone out of contract gets realease and Raj says....well I told you so...


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I honestly thought the idea of this, was Raj wants away and will just pass it on to any bidder who’s willing……bigger fool me.

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I know of people who have voted yes and who have voted no. The yeses are all voting for the club to stay in Div 5 the nos are prepared to tell him to do one and we take our chances.
We all do what's right in our own minds, but it does sound like he'll be staying on.


Have to stick together on this one. Everybody is making their decision with the best intentions.


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PTID wrote:
I know of people who have voted yes and who have voted no. The yeses are all voting for the club to stay in Div 5 the nos are prepared to tell him to do one and we take our chances.
We all do what's right in our own minds, but it does sound like he'll be staying on.


Have to stick together on this one. Everybody is making their decision with the best intentions.



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Have to stick together on this one. Everybody is making their decision with the best intentions.


Absolutely this. I have no ill will to whoever vote or doesn’t. It isn’t a fair vote with full facts.

I’ve decided not to vote. We shouldn’t have to. The minimum Singh should be doing is funding us until he sells or hands over ownership.

I don’t want a phoenix club. If I thought voting no would hurry up a sale I’d have done so but I could see Singh using it as a sign to let the club die to spite the fans. I do think he is that spiteful.


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He claims Proof of funds are required by teh Nat League for us to compete.....but then also says an option is for him not to fund us and us be self sustaining?--So does that mean teh nat league kicks us out?--or is it just the case he is the guarantor but in reality the funds arent used?

Cards on the table Singh....how much of your own money (not loans) have you put in, and how much are you committing if we get a yes vote?

Whole thing is a joke and the sooner he leaves the better--I suspect we may be in a worse case scenario job where we limp along, go belly up sometime this season and then have to form a new club.....this is where the trust need to come in with what the plan B is for starting again--I think there will be more traction for that now people have seen the shitshow that we are in now full on.


Nothing - it's all loans. And any funding going forward will be added to the Loans and increase cost of buying him out.


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Just voted YES.
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I would think anyone who votes GO will have a knock from the Police for Hate crimes and a couple of years locked up. Maybe better than watching the clubs demise though!


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Just voted YES.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM


Of course you did, except we all know what you've 'got'.


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He claims Proof of funds are required by teh Nat League for us to compete.....but then also says an option is for him not to fund us and us be self sustaining?--So does that mean teh nat league kicks us out?--or is it just the case he is the guarantor but in reality the funds arent used?

Cards on the table Singh....how much of your own money (not loans) have you put in, and how much are you committing if we get a yes vote?

Whole thing is a joke and the sooner he leaves the better--I suspect we may be in a worse case scenario job where we limp along, go belly up sometime this season and then have to form a new club.....this is where the trust need to come in with what the plan B is for starting again--I think there will be more traction for that now people have seen the shitshow that we are in now full on.


Nothing - it's all loans. And any funding going forward will be added to the Loans and increase cost of buying him out.


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Have to stick together on this one. Everybody is making their decision with the best intentions.


Absolutely this. I have no ill will to whoever vote or doesn’t. It isn’t a fair vote with full facts.

I’ve decided not to vote. We shouldn’t have to. The minimum Singh should be doing is funding us until he sells or hands over ownership.

I don’t want a phoenix club. If I thought voting no would hurry up a sale I’d have done so but I could see Singh using it as a sign to let the club die to spite the fans. I do think he is that Evil.


Corrected for you.


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And the "loan money" just falls out of a money tree does it?
He loans the club money, it's not unique to Pools that the owner lends the club money, Wrexham have outstanding loans to Ryan Reynolds believed to be about £9m. At some point the person who made the loans might want their cash back, isn't that reasonable?


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And the "loan money" just falls out of a money tree does it?
He loans the club money, it's not unique to Pools that the owner lends the club money, Wrexham have outstanding loans to Ryan Reynolds believed to be about £9m. At some point the person who made the loans might want their cash back, isn't that reasonable?


No the next owner inherits the debt.


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I honestly thought the idea of this, was Raj wants away and will just pass it on to any bidder who’s willing……bigger fool me.


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The new owner inherits the debt, does that mean the old owner writes it off, cos in that case it's not called a loan it's called a gift and I definitely don't the Raj is the benevolent type.


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The new owner inherits the debt, does that mean the old owner writes it off, cos in that case it's not called a loan it's called a gift and I definitely don't the Raj is the b :lol: enevolent type.


No. Otherwise I would have said that. Wait.... you think Raj means out of his own pocket don't you!? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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apparently anyway can vote online with a made up season ticket number !

Maybe they will cross ref names and numbers to remove the bad data but the whole thing seems like a total shambles


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apparently anyway can vote online with a made up season ticket number !

Maybe they will cross ref names and numbers to remove the bad data but the whole thing seems like a total shambles


Business as usual


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Pooly_Imp wrote:
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apparently anyway can vote online with a made up season ticket number !

Maybe they will cross ref names and numbers to remove the bad data but the whole thing seems like a total shambles


Business as usual


Yep.
But now the decline speeds up as the fan base gets smaller.

He's a sicko getting pleasure out of degrading our town which our football club is a major part

Thousands of Poolies Takeing non league shite/inheritance to their graves/deaths.

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Just voted YES.
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 Post subject: Re: The 'Vote'!!
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:34 pm 
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Crazybird wrote:
Just voted YES.
Often the case in life..
You don't know what you've got till it's gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM

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 Post subject: Re: The 'Vote'!!
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:52 pm 
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Mikey76 wrote:
Crazybird wrote:
Just voted YES.
Often the case in life..
You don't know what you've got till it's gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM

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How did I not notice that? Of course!


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 11:01 pm 
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PTID wrote:
And the "loan money" just falls out of a money tree does it?
He loans the club money, it's not unique to Pools that the owner lends the club money, Wrexham have outstanding loans to Ryan Reynolds believed to be about £9m. At some point the person who made the loans might want their cash back, isn't that reasonable?

Wrexham have no outstanding loans. All been paid back.


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 Post subject: Re: The 'Vote'!!
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 11:26 pm 
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Raj is a horrible poisonous bloke and I can’t tell you how much I want rid of him.
What do we want to happen tomorrow though? Kind of hope it is yes or he says that even if it wasn’t. Seems the path of least resistance. Raj will feel better about life and might chill out just enough to actually sell up. For all some people are saying the prospective buyer has no money, there must be something there or the whole process would have ended weeks if not months ago.
I know I was positive it would get sorted I made the fatal error of underestimating Raj’s madness. As quite a few suggested, DD was ongoing. There must be something dodgy there for him to get so upset. If he ends up staying on, be very worried people.


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 Post subject: Re: The 'Vote'!!
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2025 11:46 pm 
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I wouldn’t hold your breath, it’s looking like a one dimensional chameleon.

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 Post subject: Re: The 'Vote'!!
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Pooly_Imp wrote:
Mikey76 wrote:
Crazybird wrote:
Just voted YES.
Often the case in life..
You don't know what you've got till it's gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM

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How did I not notice that? Of course!


Wasn’t that waddell’s signature move…not exactly subtle this lad


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