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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2025 5:33 am 
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Starmer expressing ‘delight’ over allegedly massive Indian trade deal ….till at the end he mentioned the sticking point of ‘more’ Indian visas popped up…the press caught on and quizzed him about the visa’s but got waffle back and no mention of visa’s.
Turns out Indian company’s in the UK can then bring over Indian employees and be exempt from National Insurance.
So the ‘company won’t have the burden of NI or the employees…does that mean they cannot use the facilities associated with NI…..and how many of these cheap employees can come over.?
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Obviously a huge advantage to companies employing predominately migrant Indians over natural born Brits (including those of Indian heritage). Hike NI for companies employing Brits, abolish NI for those employing migrant Indians, wtf!


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Obviously a huge advantage to companies employing predominately migrant Indians over natural born Brits (including those of Indian heritage). Hike NI for companies employing Brits, abolish NI for those employing migrant Indians, wtf!

If either employer or employee is not paying NI that’s some advantage.

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Indian nationals accounted for the highest proportion of work visas issued to people applying to come to the UK last year, along with the second highest proportion of study visas.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/many- ... 32698.html
How many more immigrants does the U.K. need, we must have zero unemployment if we have to import labour ?


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Thanks to the tories n now Labour the foreigners run/own that country England that used to be ours.

We will become known as pieces of shit that has to put up n shut up but silently subsidise this absolutely disgusting regime.

I ain't got grandkids yet but when they arrive they will have to live a life of prisonership values were jail is were you go if you don't confine to this horrible new England.

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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!



I’d recommend you change your drug supplier. Whatever you’re on is causing you to talk utter shite.


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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


When English people think this is acceptable then what was the point of 2 World wars and these VE80 celebrations.

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Ask yourself why the Indians are cock a hoop over this trade deal whereas Starmer and his feckless lot are the only British people happy with it? Why didn't Badenoch sign it, and why are British business complaining that it's anti competitive?
Certainly screwing the British pensioners, British businesses, and British workers is business as usual for this shower of incompetents. It also opens the floodgates for Indian business to lay off British workers and bring in cheaper Indian staff as visa rules are significantly relaxed.


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starmer and labour just have a death wish. by the time they finish its going to take a bigger miracle than farage and his mates to turn this country around. seems every day something new crops up to wind the big majority of us little people up.


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 Post subject: Re: Indian Trade deal
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Surely it's just a ploy to attract more "skilled" workers from India such as doctors, surgeons, consultants etc to work in our NHS, which due to the timing of the tensions between Pakistan and India will probably encourage relevant people to leave those fractious areas. Poolie 27 is correct btw.

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Ask yourself why the Indians are cock a hoop over this trade deal whereas Starmer and his feckless lot are the only British people happy with it? Why didn't Badenoch sign it, and why are British business complaining that it's anti competitive?
Certainly screwing the British pensioners, British businesses, and British workers is business as usual for this shower of incompetents. It also opens the floodgates for Indian business to lay off British workers and bring in cheaper Indian staff as visa rules are significantly relaxed.

give it time and it will be us who are asking for foreign aid from india and others. feel it would be a long wait though for any to arrive.


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 Post subject: Re: Indian Trade deal
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Surely it's just a ploy to attract more "skilled" workers from India such as doctors, surgeons, consultants etc to work in our NHS, which due to the timing of the tensions between Pakistan and India will probably encourage relevant people to leave those fractious areas. Poolie 27 is correct btw.

thought the boat illegals were going to provide all that.


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 Post subject: Re: Indian Trade deal
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One commentator this morning said people forget big UK companies are Indian owned like Jaguar…suppose Indians were brought over, trained up and eventually the plant or process could be moved to India with a ready made workforce.
MG cars are now produced in China as well as India, Thailand and Indonesia.

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 Post subject: Re: Indian Trade deal
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


So let me get this straight.

If I go to India, and get a job in the factory making Morris Minors and Triumph motorbikes, then I'd pay no tax or stamp..?

Is that right..???


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Kenny Bottles wrote:
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


So let me get this straight.

If I go to India, and get a job in the factory making Morris Minors and Triumph motorbikes, then I'd pay no tax or stamp..?

Is that right..???


For 3 years only ...yes. I'm no fan of this current government but I reckon it's a plan hoping to attract workers in hospitals/care homes rather than as competition to native people applying for jobs in other sectors.

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 Post subject: Re: Indian Trade deal
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


I assume you are conversant with employment law in India or did your Text from Kier arrive to remind you to spread the word.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Kenny Bottles wrote:
Poolie27 wrote:
It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


So let me get this straight.

If I go to India, and get a job in the factory making Morris Minors and Triumph motorbikes, then I'd pay no tax or stamp..?

Is that right..???


For 3 years only ...yes. I'm no fan of this current government but I reckon it's a plan hoping to attract workers in hospitals/care homes rather than as competition to native people applying for jobs in other sectors.


3 years yes, then the next wave and the next wave.
So why aren’t we producing people to do the jobs, there’s plenty claiming unemployment benefits…..

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Kenny Bottles wrote:
Poolie27 wrote:
It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


So let me get this straight.

If I go to India, and get a job in the factory making Morris Minors and Triumph motorbikes, then I'd pay no tax or stamp..?

Is that right..???


For 3 years only ...yes. I'm no fan of this current government but I reckon it's a plan hoping to attract workers in hospitals/care homes rather than as competition to native people applying for jobs in other sectors.


Hmmmmm.

And are cows still sacred over there, so that our lass will be treated nice and doesn't have to work..?


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Cheap curry?

No most "Indian" restaurants are run by Bangladeshis.

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Cheap curry?

No most "Indian" restaurants are run by Bangladeshis.

like the chinese ones are run by people from hong kong and serve dishes for western tastes only that the indians or chinese would never eat.


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We amazing Brits sign and celebrate 'a deal' with a nation which immediately attacks its neighbour and tears up a 60 year old 'deal' over the supply of water.

And I'm old enough to remember the globe on the teacher's desk where a quarter of the lands were red. Recent generations - including mine - have pissed away everything.


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 Post subject: Re: Indian Trade deal
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Poolie27 wrote:
It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


If the particular country has a dual tax agreement with the U.K. you won’t pay tax in that country, therefore does it work in reverse if foreigners work in the U.K., I would think so.


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accrington fan wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Surely it's just a ploy to attract more "skilled" workers from India such as doctors, surgeons, consultants etc to work in our NHS, which due to the timing of the tensions between Pakistan and India will probably encourage relevant people to leave those fractious areas. Poolie 27 is correct btw.

thought the boat illegals were going to provide all that.


I doubt many are skilled workers or have a medical background.


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Let’s be honest, Starmer’s in the clarts and this is a lifeline being thrown to him he can shout about and hope no one notices his political trousers are falling down.
So he would be cheering from the rooftops in his own stiff style.

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Poolie27 wrote:
It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


I’m glad about that,now watch the flood of Brits leave for India,not.


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We have endured some truly incompetent Labour Party leaders over the last 60 years since Harold Wilson who was half-decent ie Callaghan, Foot, Blair, Kinnock, Harrman, Corbyn, Milliband etc, etc. Thankfully only a handful of those bozos and loose cannons actually survived long enough to become Prime Minister .

Starmer however must surely rank as of one of, if not THE worst Labour leader ever. As far as shooting himself in the foot he must now be close to actually blowing it off. Not only is he alienating Labour from their code voters but he's also pissing off his own party members. It's likely that I won't ever see another Tory government in my lifetime (hopefully) but increasingly likely that I won't see another band of Labourite hapless meddlers either.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!



I’d recommend you change your drug supplier. Whatever you’re on is causing you to talk utter shite.

And your Party signed similar deals so you must talk utter shite as well.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


When English people think this is acceptable then what was the point of 2 World wars and these VE80 celebrations.

Unbelievable. :angry-tappingfoot:

Kevin, your ignorance knows no bounds. UK workers have enjoyed the benefits of tax deals when they work abroad!


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Snowy wrote:
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


I assume you are conversant with employment law in India or did your Text from Kier arrive to remind you to spread the word.

I used to work with Indians Snowy in China and in international situations.


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[quote="Brian Honour's Left Foot"]We amazing Brits sign and celebrate 'a deal' with a nation which immediately attacks its neighbour and tears up a 60 year old 'deal' over the supply of water.

And I'm old enough to remember the globe on the teacher's desk where a quarter of the lands were red. Recent generations - including mine - have pissed away everything.[ Brits have enjoyed the benefit of working in some very dodgy countries over the years.


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Poolie27 wrote:
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


I assume you are conversant with employment law in India or did your Text from Kier arrive to remind you to spread the word.

I used to work with Indians Snowy in China and in international situations.


Doing what?

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Poolie27 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


When English people think this is acceptable then what was the point of 2 World wars and these VE80 celebrations.

Unbelievable. :angry-tappingfoot:

Kevin, your ignorance knows no bounds. UK workers have enjoyed the benefits of tax deals when they work abroad!

The lads in Auf Weidersien Pet left Germany when they were going to have to start paying Tax. :-D


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MutleyRules wrote:
Poolie27 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


When English people think this is acceptable then what was the point of 2 World wars and these VE80 celebrations.

Unbelievable. :angry-tappingfoot:

Kevin, your ignorance knows no bounds. UK workers have enjoyed the benefits of tax deals when they work abroad!

The lads in Auf Weidersien Pet left Germany when they were going to have to start paying Tax. :-D

Ah..Germany….very nice. :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


I assume you are conversant with employment law in India or did your Text from Kier arrive to remind you to spread the word.

I used to work with Indians Snowy in China and in international situations.

Helping to run a business in India and a one that looked at Chinese deals. I guess you question my credentials but we can do that to everyone on this bunker Snowy. All of us can only express our opinions and disagree of course.
Doing what?


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Poolie27 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
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It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


I assume you are conversant with employment law in India or did your Text from Kier arrive to remind you to spread the word.

I used to work with Indians Snowy in China and in international situations.

Helping to run a business in India and a one that looked at Chinese deals. I guess you question my credentials but we can do that to everyone on this bunker Snowy. All of us can only express our opinions and disagree of course.
Doing what?


Not questioning you at all, just interested/nosey?
If I have a sensitive or ‘awkward’ question …..I just barge in with my size 10’s. :laugh:

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Kenny Bottles wrote:
Poolie27 wrote:
It also means British workers have the same rights in India. This is a normal way of doing business and any in here who worked overseas would not expect to pay tax,ni in both countries. Another hysterical reaction ffs!


So let me get this straight.

If I go to India, and get a job in the factory making Morris Minors and Triumph motorbikes, then I'd pay no tax or stamp..?

Is that right..???


For 3 years only ...yes. I'm no fan of this current government but I reckon it's a plan hoping to attract workers in hospitals/care homes rather than as competition to native people applying for jobs in other sectors.


How many hospitals/care homes are Indian Companies or does it mean they are brought into the UK as contractors sourced by companies based in India?


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Surely if these people do not pay NI they should not be allowed NHS treatment free or any thing else that it pays for, typical Starmer shafts the British pensioners but invites Indian workers in and gives them freebies. Would not surprise me if he sends the army over there to help them out in the skirmish with Pakistan.


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Surely if these people do not pay NI they should not be allowed NHS treatment free or any thing else that it pays for, typical Starmer shafts the British pensioners but invites Indian workers in and gives them freebies. Would not surprise me if he sends the army over there to help them out in the skirmish with Pakistan.


Foreign nationals applying for temporary permission to live in the UK are required to pay an immigration health surcharge (IHS) in addition to the visa application fee. In February 2024 the standard rate increased to £1,035 per year of the visa, paid in advance, the previous rate was £624 per year.


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Good to see some facts. We are all victims of sound bytes in this bunker and facts are usually left behind in the gutter.


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Surely if these people do not pay NI they should not be allowed NHS treatment free or any thing else that it pays for, typical Starmer shafts the British pensioners but invites Indian workers in and gives them freebies. Would not surprise me if he sends the army over there to help them out in the skirmish with Pakistan.


Foreign nationals applying for temporary permission to live in the UK are required to pay an immigration health surcharge (IHS) in addition to the visa application fee. In February 2024 the standard rate increased to £1,035 per year of the visa, paid in advance, the previous rate was £624 per year.

£1035 sounds fairly generous to me….just my opinion like.

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Anyone for an American trade deal?


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Anyone for an American trade deal?


The "news" now playing on Boom UK is suggesting that Starmer is on the verge of getting one.

But the clip they played of him speaking about it was the usual waffle.

I'll believe it when the ink is on the paper...


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It will increase GDP by 0.1%, no idea how they work the figures out, suppose you have to start some where.


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Snowy wrote:
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Surely if these people do not pay NI they should not be allowed NHS treatment free or any thing else that it pays for, typical Starmer shafts the British pensioners but invites Indian workers in and gives them freebies. Would not surprise me if he sends the army over there to help them out in the skirmish with Pakistan.


Foreign nationals applying for temporary permission to live in the UK are required to pay an immigration health surcharge (IHS) in addition to the visa application fee. In February 2024 the standard rate increased to £1,035 per year of the visa, paid in advance, the previous rate was £624 per year.

£1035 sounds fairly generous to me….just my opinion like.


Just checked my last payslip and I paid just over £200 in NIC so that's about £2,500pa for everything NI covers. I'll admit I don't know where NHS funding comes from so I have no idea if it comes from my NIC and if it does, what % of it. Seems the IHS mentioned above is about 30-40% of average NIC for a working person.


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