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 Post subject: When is this Madness going to Stop??
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Just had my Council Tax Bill posted to me...£194 a month!!! Eyewateting amount and for what exactly?!? rakxe
Welcome to Rip-Off Britain!!! rakxe


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Consider yourself lucky Mutley, I pay a staggering £305 a month!


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Just had my Council Tax Bill posted to me...£194 a month!!! Eyewateting amount and for what exactly?!? rakxe
Welcome to Rip-Off Britain!!! rakxe


I can’t get over how high Hartlepool council tax is, I live in a three storey town house right in the centre of York off Bootham and pay less than that, madness.


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Just had my Council Tax Bill posted to me...£194 a month!!! Eyewateting amount and for what exactly?!? rakxe
Welcome to Rip-Off Britain!!! rakxe

was over 30 when that was my monthly wage. the thin is they will still be moaning and crying the poor tale. big problem is so many are paying reduced council tax for various reasons and not all are genuine.


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Rinkender wrote:
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Just had my Council Tax Bill posted to me...£194 a month!!! Eyewateting amount and for what exactly?!? rakxe
Welcome to Rip-Off Britain!!! rakxe


I can’t get over how high Hartlepool council tax is, I live in a three storey town house right in the centre of York off Bootham and pay less than that, madness.

i,d guess the average wage in york is also a lot higher. they never look still at cuts they can make or the ability of those in work to what they can pay.


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 Post subject: Re: When is this Madness going to Stop??
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This government must get around a table on a daily basis and think 'how can we annoy the majority of the population today'...Starmer obviously hates anyone who isn't a wokified minority loving subordinate, I'm looking forward to Friday morning as when the results unfold of all of the local elections (that this government hasn't postponed) flood in and people tell them just how woeful a job they are doing. My only worry is that they are so far removed from the concerns of the common people in this country they'll just brush it off as the norm in these by-elections and council elections and state this is the norm isn't it?.

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 Post subject: Re: When is this Madness going to Stop??
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Anybody else feel the police and crime commisioner is a pointless new role and could be money well saved without one in this specific role. Its not as if our streets have become safer since we all got one or the police themselves have become super efficiant. we have had police around much longer than that role has been around.


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Are those the latest figures Stocksfield?


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Yes for 2025/26.


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Council tax should be a % based on your monthly income.
The amount we pay each month now is like a rent!
Time for it to be reformed so a fair payment is paid by everyone.


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Yes I agree with you accrington, a total waste of time this police and crime commisioner role.


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 Post subject: Re: When is this Madness going to Stop??
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Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:
Yes for 2025/26.

The reason I asked was because it doesn't work out correctly for me. I divided that figure by 10 (months) and it came up with £162 and I'm paying £194. sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: When is this Madness going to Stop??
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Year on year governments have reduced the amount they give to Councils, just another form of income tax.
We are also paying inflated salaries to people in non jobs as well, the Chief Fire Officer is probably on around £200k with a gold plated pension not to to mention how many CEs on the council are on over £100k.


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What happened to the council tax on your last place you rented Mutley? Something about the landlord wanting another month?
What band did the council say your new house is in?


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accrington fan wrote:
Anybody else feel the police and crime commisioner is a pointless new role and could be money well saved without one in this specific role. Its not as if our streets have become safer since we all got one or the police themselves have become super efficiant. we have had police around much longer than that role has been around.

Of course it is, it’s a political appointment so having a politician in the role is in my opinion, dangerous.

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 Post subject: Re: When is this Madness going to Stop??
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Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:
What happened to the council tax on your last place you rented Mutley? Something about the landlord wanting another month?
What band did the council say your new house is in?

We came to an agreement with the landlord about the extra month...met in the middle.
We are in band B.


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Band B according to Hartlepool Council will be and I am guessing here the exact amounts, £195.04 for the first month and then 9 payments of £194.


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Mutley, your forgot the police and the fire parts!


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Those amounts are steep . No council tax here


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It may have something to do with the big cuts in government funding to some authorities including Hartlepool over recent years.

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And now we are on the verge of.......SugarTax.........FFs


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Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:
Mutley, your forgot the police and the fire parts!

Ahhhh....I Get it now. Cheers.


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You have also got to remember people on benefits receive a reduction in their Council Tax, the shortfall has to made up.


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Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:
Council tax should be a % based on your monthly income.
The amount we pay each month now is like a rent!
Time for it to be reformed so a fair payment is paid by everyone.


It sort of is with the property band system.


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Rates take no account of the income going into a household.
Everybody use the services but only householders pay.
Maybe a local tax so everyone pays who can pay to replace the rates.
Share the burden out.
Family opposite us have four cars and the ‘kids’ are working yet pay nothing despite using Council services.

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Rates take no account of the income going into a household.
Everybody use the services but only householders pay.
Maybe a local tax so everyone pays who can pay to replace the rates.
Share the burden out.
Family opposite us have four cars and the ‘kids’ are working yet pay nothing despite using Council services.


You mean like the poll tax? :shhh:


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Hey why not go full on capitalism with it all?


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loan_star wrote:
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Rates take no account of the income going into a household.
Everybody use the services but only householders pay.
Maybe a local tax so everyone pays who can pay to replace the rates.
Share the burden out.
Family opposite us have four cars and the ‘kids’ are working yet pay nothing despite using Council services.


You mean like the poll tax? :shhh:



Call it what you like but the cost should be sqpread out more evenly.

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Our local wannabe politicians keep talking about a fairer system for Hartlepudlians.
Obviously it will never change and we will get to the full 5% increase every year.

It's Gunna be tax tax tax to accommodate our newish muslim controlled England mostly on the paradise of Freebies lifestyle.


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Why all this fuss now, we’ve been getting screwed for decades.
It won’t change, and if it ever did it would be for the worst.

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Grayhoundend wrote:
And now we are on the verge of.......SugarTax.........FFs


England has a sugar tax, formally known as the Soft Drinks Industry Levy (SDIL). This levy is applied to pre-packaged drinks containing added sugar and was introduced in April 2018 to help reduce obesity.

Now talking about it being extended , sugar tax applied to fizzy drinks could be extended to pre-packaged milkshakes and lattes under new government plans.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwzekdznldo


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
And now we are on the verge of.......SugarTax.........FFs


England has a sugar tax, formally known as the Soft Drinks Industry Levy (SDIL). This levy is applied to pre-packaged drinks containing added sugar and was introduced in April 2018 to help reduce obesity.

Now talking about it being extended , sugar tax applied to fizzy drinks could be extended to pre-packaged milkshakes and lattes under new government plans.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwzekdznldo

They’re gonna get us healthy if it kills us. :laugh:

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MutleyRules wrote:
Just had my Council Tax Bill posted to me...£194 a month!!! Eyewateting amount and for what exactly?!? rakxe
Welcome to Rip-Off Britain!!! rakxe


Some of it will be used to help house Ukranians, and some of it to pay the council tax and benefits for those who can't get jobs because UK employers and employment agencies prefer to employ Eastern Europeans :wink:


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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
And now we are on the verge of.......SugarTax.........FFs


England has a sugar tax, formally known as the Soft Drinks Industry Levy (SDIL). This levy is applied to pre-packaged drinks containing added sugar and was introduced in April 2018 to help reduce obesity.

Now talking about it being extended , sugar tax applied to fizzy drinks could be extended to pre-packaged milkshakes and lattes under new government plans.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwzekdznldo

They’re gonna get us healthy if it kills us. :laugh:

do not worry as the foods and drinks that are now called healthy will somehow become unhealthy if there is a world wide shortage of them. best way is to ignore everything they say and eat and drink everything in moderation. at least then the short life we live might then be worth living.


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loan_star wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Rates take no account of the income going into a household.
Everybody use the services but only householders pay.
Maybe a local tax so everyone pays who can pay to replace the rates.
Share the burden out.
Family opposite us have four cars and the ‘kids’ are working yet pay nothing despite using Council services.


You mean like the poll tax? :shhh:

no a poll tax where everyone has the ability to pay based on their income.


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It may have something to do with the big cuts in government funding to some authorities including Hartlepool over recent years.

it does, but you can understand why the government actually did that. they just spent spent spent on anything that most locals never wanted in the first place and was like giving the keys of a boozer to an alcoholic. with all the so called brains about due to university education you would think a far better and cheaper alternative would be around somewhere. no town or city is that unique and the local problems and money needed are the same in keighley as it is in hartlepool.


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accrington fan wrote:
Bluestreak wrote:
It may have something to do with the big cuts in government funding to some authorities including Hartlepool over recent years.

it does, but you can understand why the government actually did that. they just spent spent spent on anything that most locals never wanted in the first place and was like giving the keys of a boozer to an alcoholic. with all the so called brains about due to university education you would think a far better and cheaper alternative would be around somewhere. no town or city is that unique and the local problems and money needed are the same in keighley as it is in hartlepool.


Generally down to the fact most Councillors haven’t a clue when it comes to finance and get their eyes taken out by private contractors. The people employed to look after the finances have little or no experience in the private sector. Take Dave Stubbs 44 years on the council worked his way up to C.E., good luck to the fella but was never was employed outside the Civic.


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You are so correct there Jamie, from personal experience.
Most Councillors in the big Party’s are just sheep, it helps if you can get compliant wannabe’s….they’re like dogs waiting to get their bellies scratched.
What you get is when money comes in for projects is what impresses the Councillors…what a pity they don’t consult the public instead of listening to yappy groups with big elbows.

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You are so correct there Jamie, from personal experience.
Most Councillors in the big Party’s are just sheep, it helps if you can get compliant wannabe’s….they’re like dogs waiting to get their bellies scratched.
What you get is when money comes in for projects is what impresses the Councillors…what a pity they don’t consult the public instead of listening to yappy groups with big elbows.


Snowy they do public consultations but most people can’t be bothered to get involved and at the end of the day the decision has already been made prior to the consultation.


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You have also got to remember people on benefits receive a reduction in their Council Tax, the shortfall has to made up.


Are you really that Naive.

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Snowy wrote:
Rates take no account of the income going into a household.
Everybody use the services but only householders pay.
Maybe a local tax so everyone pays who can pay to replace the rates.
Share the burden out.
Family opposite us have four cars and the ‘kids’ are working yet pay nothing despite using Council services.


Trouble is Snowy, With that statement.
You are showing Understanding and Compassion, The rest of the FOOLs fall for it hook line and sinker.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Our local wannabe politicians keep talking about a fairer system for Hartlepudlians.
Obviously it will never change and we will get to the full 5% increase every year.

It's Gunna be tax tax tax to accommodate our newish muslim controlled England mostly on the paradise of Freebies lifestyle.


Seems to be an awful lot of Mayors are Muslim nowadays, Look it up you may get a suprise.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Our local wannabe politicians keep talking about a fairer system for Hartlepudlians.
Obviously it will never change and we will get to the full 5% increase every year.

It's Gunna be tax tax tax to accommodate our newish muslim controlled England mostly on the paradise of Freebies lifestyle.


Seems to be an awful lot of Mayors are Muslim nowadays, Look it up you may get a suprise.


Because they vote, we don’t, most people can’t be be ars** but don’t see the consequences when they don’t then whinge about it.


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The problem you have is those on universal credit or disability get a free pass on council tax. After removing all the mine payers, those that work have to split the entire council expenditure between them.


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The problem you have is those on universal credit or disability get a free pass on council tax. After removing all the mine payers, those that work have to split the entire council expenditure between them.


Exactly what I said, Google how many people actually pay the full council tax in Hartlepool, the shortfall has to be made up by the ones paying full council tax.


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