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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:31 pm 
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Is it just or does anyone else get the impression that they’ve just given up and thrown in the towel. They look as though they’re just going through the motions.

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Is it just or does anyone else get the impression that they’ve just given up and thrown in the towel. They look as though they’re just going through the motions.


That was the very same comment I made yesterday watching yet another piss poor performance. I cringe when I see the gutless spinless fooked off pack of shite primadonas pretending to give a fook. :angry-screaming: Also have you noticed Parksy is suddenly foooking useless after signing his contract extension sctatchinghead He was our most consistent player up until he signed again. I like Parksy but it tells its own story. banghead


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I couldn’t fault the players for effort yesterday as the problem is lack of mobility and pace . Once aldershot realised their long ball game wasn’t working they brought on some nimble and fast players and started running at the defence . Sheron was in difficulty because they were attacking him all of the time . The manager should have seen this and done something about it . A defender should have brought on , not another forestd


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I couldn’t fault the players for effort yesterday as the problem is lack of mobility and pace . Once aldershot realised their long ball game wasn’t working they brought on some nimble and fast players and started running at the defence . Sheron was in difficulty because they were attacking him all of the time . The manager should have seen this and done something about it . A defender should have brought on , not another forestd


Also he brought on Ferguson another great substitution that cost us two of the goals. Totally clueless in every way something ordinary people in normal jobs would be sacked for. banghead But even when players are giving effort its never the full team just a few making any effort at all. You cannot be successful without all players giving 110% effort. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: The players
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:12 pm 
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Totally disagree. They all tried . Just not mobile and fast enough


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 Post subject: Re: The players
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Your opinion on Ferguson sctatchinghead What you see as trying I see as going through the motions in most games. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: The players
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:21 pm 
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Did you go to the game


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 Post subject: Re: The players
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:24 pm 
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It's a Jolly Boys club HUFC, the malaise we're seeing now has also happened in February the previous 3 seasons, "come to Hartlepool Utd the season finishes mid-February"
It's like a retirement home for broken footballers, no ambition, no effort and no idea where the next half decent performance is coming from.....joke club.

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 Post subject: Re: The players
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bluebottle wrote:
Did you go to the game


Not that game but did watch it on live stream. Did I miss something important sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: The players
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
It's a Jolly Boys club HUFC, the malaise we're seeing now has also happened in February the previous 3 seasons, "come to Hartlepool Utd the season finishes mid-February"
It's like a retirement home for broken footballers, no ambition, no effort and no idea where the next half decent performance is coming from.....joke club.


That's exactly how I see things in games. :wink:


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bluebottle wrote:
Totally disagree. They all tried . Just not mobile and fast enough

Well should we have signed them in the first place then…if you’re no longer ‘mobile’ or ‘fast enough’ you’re no use on the pitch…,me granny can try, but she won’t be any use on the pitch.

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 Post subject: Re: The players
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Did you go to the game

That’s the old siege mentality cry, … at this rate there’ll be fewer going to the games anyway ….I know two regulars this morning who are thinking of not renewing their season ticket next year….which did surprise me.

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 Post subject: Re: The players
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I am sure that you know that watching the game live is totally different from the tv. The point I am making for the second time we didn’t lose through lack of effort but from a lack of ability . Ferguson was too slow for their second goal but their third goal was offside .


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 Post subject: Re: The players
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bluebottle wrote:
I am sure that you know that watching the game live is totally different from the tv. The point I am making for the second time we didn’t lose through lack of effort but from a lack of ability . Ferguson was too slow for their second goal but their third goal was offside .


My son and his two mates went to the game. I just rang him to ask his opinion. He said 5 or 6 really tried hard but the rest went through the motions. :roll: Defensively very nieve was the best he could come up with. He goes to nearly every game and reckons this team play to a average level for this league but that won't win many games. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: The players
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If you’re watching a match live on TV it gives a better view perspective but obviously no atmosphere…in any ground you see a limited section of the pitch when in the ground when attending.
When the opposition has more speed and agility you’re at a loss despite how hard you try and surely are going to be a disadvantage which looks like lethargy to the spectator.
The question ‘where you at the match’ is a wind up for me as never having missed more than half a dozen home games from 69 till 2020..I missed a match and passed comment on the match in 1977and someone at work said I couldn’t have an opinion on a none related incident….I knew there and then I was a fool to attend my son’s birth…. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: The players
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Lack of pace & mobility in the team.
How many season have we been saying that now.


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 Post subject: Re: The players
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None of them take him seriously, it’s really disappointing the lack of personal pride or anger at our plight from the team
Waterfall had a rep as a non nonsense winner but even he looks a she’ll
Of a man mouthing empty words of ‘keeping the faith’
I think people like Ferguson and Featherstone are both nice people but they are so
Comfortable in being losers professionally they have to go….proper clear out needed


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 Post subject: Re: The players
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
It's a Jolly Boys club HUFC, the malaise we're seeing now has also happened in February the previous 3 seasons, "come to Hartlepool Utd the season finishes mid-February"
It's like a retirement home for broken footballers, no ambition, no effort and no idea where the next half decent performance is coming from.....joke club.


This 100%
Our Star players Er ain't stars.

Same will happen next season
Finish 19th.
Then nailed on NLN in 2 years at best.
But most Probably division 7 after A.
Under no circumstances can any blame be passed on to the fans. :angry-tappingfoot:


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 Post subject: Re: The players
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None of them take him seriously, it’s really disappointing the lack of personal pride or anger at our plight from the team
Waterfall had a rep as a non nonsense winner but even he looks a she’ll
Of a man mouthing empty words of ‘keeping the faith’
I think people like Ferguson and Featherstone are both nice people but they are so
Comfortable in being losers professionally they have to go….proper clear out needed


Thing is everyone apart from Sarly knew fevs/Fergy weren't going to contribute to a promotion season.


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 Post subject: Re: The players
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:29 am 
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In a few words most players are not good enough more so Pools aging defence and lack of pace.


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 Post subject: Re: The players
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It all boils down to whatever reasons are put forward we just aren’t good enough…a recurring theme no matter what excuses are put forward.

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Lack of pace & mobility in the team.
How many season have we been saying that now.

exactly. could be the reason that cleary looks so good in the side because he has them both. we have in the past moaned that players are not trying. think to a point they all do but at the end of the day they are not good enough to get us where we want to be. just imagine how good charman would be with his heart if he had the ability to match.


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 Post subject: Re: The players
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Why not bring Mani O back and pair him with Sass-Davies, at least both have pace or am I delusional ?


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Why not bring Mani O back and pair him with Sass-Davies, at least both have pace or am I delusional ?



Think it's only me and loyal who were calling for Mani O to be given a game, before he went out on loan. I'd pair him with Parkes in a two or with Waterfall in a three. Think he's half decent when he doesn't have to be the main man doing the organising.

Don't think Sass Davies is much cop- certainly had a shocker at Brackley.


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I don’t honestly believe that chopping and changing individual players is going to make any difference whatsoever. The key players (the rest are much of a muchness) appear to have lost the fire in their bellies since ‘modern coach’ Skippy started fucking about with team selections, tactics, playing individuals out of position and in doing so he effectively killed off our already slim chances of sneaking into the playoffs. This is reason enough for doubting the credibility of Skippy as long term Pools first team coach (I refuse to use the term ‘manager’ as he is proving anything but in either man-management or team management).

Skippy is lucky to some extent that it’s York City at home on Saturday, a ‘freebie’ fixture that was always unlikely to yield more than a point at the very best. This followed by away games vs Fylde and Eastleigh, the former now revived having chased KP, winning at Alti on Saturday and the latter currently standing just outside the playoffs. Given our recent form and abysmal team performances under Skips, after those three games it is possible that we could find ourselves in the bottom 10 with 9 games remaining. What happens next - the invisible chairman chases Skippy and reinstates Lenny - or promotes Ronnie from his chief scout role to do what he does best? Watch this space - this run-in could be a far more entertaining drama than the OTT British soap storylines that are currently being broadcast.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Why not bring Mani O back and pair him with Sass-Davies, at least both have pace or am I delusional ?



Think it's only me and loyal who were calling for Mani O to be given a game, before he went out on loan. I'd pair him with Parkes in a two or with Waterfall in a three. Think he's half decent when he doesn't have to be the main man doing the organising.

Don't think Sass Davies is much cop- certainly had a shocker at Brackley.


Yep mani O our most gifted defender physically and for pace, but lost confidence was prone to a mistake etc
Seemed a no brainer to pair him up with someone like Parkes who could take on the organization role, and have them compensate for each other….instead we pick 2 veterans, put Feather in front of them and claim we want to be an aggressive pressing team ffs


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sass davies to my recolection only had one nightmare game for us whilst the other two and that includes parkes have had a few. feel sorry for the lad as his only appearance is warming up in front of the neale cooper.


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sass davies to my recolection only had one nightmare game for us whilst the other two and that includes parkes have had a few. feel sorry for the lad as his only appearance is warming up in front of the neale cooper.

Yer right Accy…some people immediately condemned him out of hand and gave him plenty of grief, which made no logical sense. sctatchinghead

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Leggie43 wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
I am sure that you know that watching the game live is totally different from the tv. The point I am making for the second time we didn’t lose through lack of effort but from a lack of ability . Ferguson was too slow for their second goal but their third goal was offside .


My son and his two mates went to the game. I just rang him to ask his opinion. He said 5 or 6 really tried hard but the rest went through the motions. :roll: Defensively very nieve was the best he could come up with. He goes to nearly every game and reckons this team play to a average level for this league but that won't win many games. :roll:


You don’t need to go to live games to work that out. Watching on my tv in Thailand it’s obvious the team plays to a moderate level. That has been apparent for a few seasons. That’s why the manager can never get us to improve from where we are no matter what formation or players he uses. The majority of the squad are just not good enough. No amount of coaching can improve most of this lot. There is only so much you can polish a turd. As bd regards Ferguson he should be chased . He has no self awareness of danger around him. Most goals come from his side of the pitch.


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Leggie43 wrote:
bluebottle wrote:
I am sure that you know that watching the game live is totally different from the tv. The point I am making for the second time we didn’t lose through lack of effort but from a lack of ability . Ferguson was too slow for their second goal but their third goal was offside .


My son and his two mates went to the game. I just rang him to ask his opinion. He said 5 or 6 really tried hard but the rest went through the motions. :roll: Defensively very nieve was the best he could come up with. He goes to nearly every game and reckons this team play to a average level for this league but that won't win many games. :roll:


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A vlogs who the top ten paid players who play for Aberdeen in the Scottish Premier League, it would be interest to see how they compare with Pools top earners who I have no idea what they earn.
https://youtu.be/66rfeYNhQm0?si=LhnZ-MLT-B2C8f9V


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If you read the comments the figures are disputed, and some of the players apparently don't even play for Aberdeen? Then you acknowledge that you don't know how much Pools players are on. What is the point t of your post? You do realise Aberdeen are not in the NL don't you?


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If you read the comments the figures are disputed, and some of the players apparently don't even play for Aberdeen? Then you acknowledge that you don't know how much Pools players are on. What is the point t of your post? You do realise Aberdeen are not in the NL don't you?


I am making comparisons of what players in Scotland are paid to a team Pools who are in the 5th tier of the English league irrespective of whether the players are on loan or whatever. If you read my post you will say I said I had no idea what Pools players get paid, I am waiting for one of the experts maybe you to tell me as you profess to know a lot about Pools.


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you,ll probebly find that most of pools players also do not know for sure what their team mates are being payed unless they are big mates with each other. know a few personal details of a few ex pro footballers but have no idea on the wages they were paid.


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When did I profess to know a lot about Pools? Just can't understand the randomness of your post.


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PTID wrote:
When did I profess to know a lot about Pools? Just can't understand the randomness of your post.


Apparently by your posts you profess to know a lot about Pools.


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It might be apparent to you and how your random mind works, but I've never professed to be an expert on Pools. And just to be clear "I, PTID hereby profess I am not an expert on Pools".


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PTID wrote:
It might be apparent to you and how your random mind works, but I've never professed to be an expert on Pools. And just to be clear "I, PTID hereby profess I am not an expert on Pools".

You are dealing with the Pool’s reporter for the ‘Indo China Mail & Farmer’s Weekly’ sports edition….he’s world famous in his village..well…paddy field.
He knows what he’s rambling about. :laugh:

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