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Hartlepool Utd confirm they’re in talks with both Mani Dieseruvwe and Joe Grey about new deals.

Excellent. Wouldn't be happening till May if Lee Rust was still in charge of contract negotiations.

Be a huge statement of intent if we could tie them both down for another year at least.

Tie them down on a three year contract with the promise that if bigger clubs come in we won't stand in their way. That way we either have their services or we can negotiate a decent fee. Win win.
Get it done.

Hold onto them!!!!

Agree Mr Derwent But for a bigger club should at least be a bigger club in league one or championship also include a sell on percentage and a pre-season friendly for the following season. Also get both Dodds and Mancini tied long term.

Would make sense in the long run to give them better and longer contracts now. Let's hope "He who holds the purse strings" agrees with our way of thinking.

Feels like we've been here before, announcing a season ticket campaign and drop this in, on the back of two wins. Why make it public?
Odds on Grey leaves, as he's been chronically under appreciated by some managers and used to fill gaps. He's never stopped putting a shift in though.
If either leaves it will say a lot about our ambition but Grey can quite clearly play at a higher level and will fly in a better team. This is probably Mani's level, so in fairness a deal more likely although never under-estimate Raj's love of money.

To be fair he was asked by Tees about it, it’s not something he said out of the blue. It is nice to know that we’re trying to be proactive though.
I think both will leave, Grey deserves to play at a higher level and we’ll at least get compensation for him. Mani will be 30 and can get himself a decent sign on fee somewhere. The thing that could be our saving grace is the fact he doesn’t seem to want to play down south (based on his previous clubs) so a good contract here could tempt him to stay.
Think Parkes and Dodds should be being offered contracts asap too, I doubt Mancini will stay based on playing time.

No chance on Earth Mani will stay. Given this season and last along with hi being a free transfer; there's no doubt a L2 or even L1 team will have a punt. Goalscorers tend to be goalscorers at all levels. Its an instinct thing.

I would agree with that as he currently is in the best goal scoring form of his career.

Fair enough, my mistake.

Who posted Grey has a double Hernia?
Unsellable as he would fail any medical.
Unless it's a false accusation.

If Manny this Bunker brilliant then he contributes megarly to Pools promotion this season before being sold.
Or both could not happen.
Football is unpredictable especially at Pools.

or just league 2 if we do not make it. its the sideways moves that rile me where players either go for more money or a better contract that really pools could match. the devil you know always comes into that and replacements whoever they are will always be a gamble.

Whilst I don’t wish these players to leave Pools I think we are getting ahead of ourselves to believe they could be sort after by clubs other than lower league teams. They imo are in the same category as Sterry, Molyneau, Armstrong,Oates, etc, good lower league players.

and none of them have really improved on what we saw of them with us. what all of them do we have seen em do the same in a pools shirt.

I don't believe for one minute these two are in negotiations for new contracts because they are good players. It's simply about tying two players down who's contracts are about to end. It's good financial sense for Raj to get the contracts extended and much less to do with building a good team or doing what's best for Pools. I reckon the club are going to cash in on both players in either January or in the summer once the contracts get signed. Call me cynical but I can already see both players being moved on and replaced with Madine and Mancini. No way is Raj going to let a well possible 6 figure sum for each player disappear. And with Mr.Burns being a board member and close friend it's highly likely he would agree. If Madine stayed fit he will 100% get goals and link play. If Mancini can get a couple of games in a row I believe he would get back to being our best player so it could still be a playoff finish.

Not sure that anyone will come in for any of our players during January.
But better fitness levels from Mads n Mancini n LuaLua will improve our play off ambitions massively.

There's enough talent within the squad now London Boy has done one.

UTP.

A few false calls from all of wah.

Trawling back to previous threads is allowed even though a minority don't like it.

That's Life.

Yeah. The best one was Manni to Carlisle. Absolute and total bollocks. If any club thinking of signing Manni had scouts at Braintree, Barnet or any Pools game in the last two months they would think again.

you could say the same 12 months back when he was scoring. the lad is nothing more than a decent striker at this level when he is on song. when he was scoring it was when we made more chances and the ones he did miss were not as important as they are now.

Dieseruvwe Is hardly a prolific scorer, 33 goals since turning professional over 10 years ago with 14 different clubs which included 8 loan spells. If he is a free agent he could walk away hoping for a better deal but that’s a big risk for him to take, Featherstone thought that but no one was interested in him and he ended back up at Pools.

And this season s laziness will be swept under the carpet for the penaltys he scored last season.

He's played himself out of a move.
So more of a chance his not to clever cv continues at Pools next season.
The Fevs situation a prime example of where we are in the table.

He seems to have run out of steam and eagerness this season…that bit slower, that bit less motivated….it’fsthere to see, no point avoiding the fact…why?

He ain't the only one tho.
Not very good players going into lazy mode.

Is a lot worse than not very good players ripping their bollocks off giving 100 %.

A few example smaller clubs well above us in this shit division is pure Evidence.

looking at his career it seems he needs new challenges regularly with a number of sideways moves. he has goals in him therefore its an easy thing for him to do as most teams will take a punt on someone like him.

Not buying the idea that Mani is lazy - he covers loads of ground every game and his hold-up play as the lone striker against Barnet was really good. It was the team selection and tactics that were garbage!

Not sure that the 2 big men up front is ever going to work though. I'd start Madine against Sutton on Saturday and drop Mani - he's missing too many chances in front of goal and a spell out of the side might do him good.

Will Lennie do it? Probably not.

Ratboy covers loads of ground consistently and always brings something back… we need something bringing back in the form of goals in this case.
It’s obvious he’s that bit slower and that bit less motivated.

They are players whose contract is up currently playing for a club going nowhere whose manager is doing it for a jolly and leaving anyway next year….if you want to have the players put in 100% then give them an environment where it looks like the club itself and the manager actually give a shit

Spot on, Mr Loyal.

The working environment for the players is a joke shop.
I watched 1 minute of the YouTube training sessions with Campbell miked up to sound n had to turn it off.

As the players know the wizard of oz is part of this shit now then nothing will change for the better next season.

Rather gamble on youth than renew a few contracts to these bunch of losers.
WSO