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 Post subject: Petition calling for another General Election
PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:34 pm 
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The above was started late Friday and will be presented to Parliament.

Total signatories at moment are nearly 1 million.

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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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Same people doing this will be the ones who had a fit when a petition to have another referendum on Brexit was put up.


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Waste of time, shouldn't have allowed these jokers to win the GE in the 1st place. We're stuck with the f*ckers for another 4.5 years yet, things can only get better anyone??


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Keir Rodney Starmer kneeling and begging forgiveness from Farage ,Trump and the Great British public is what i want to see... Just give it time. :wink:


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PTID wrote:
Waste of time, shouldn't have allowed these jokers to win the GE in the 1st place. We're stuck with the f*ckers for another 4.5 years yet, things can only get better anyone??


Things will not get better for 4.5 yrs but a hell of a lot worse. I sadly agree it's a waste of time but one can only hope. :roll:


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PTID wrote:
Waste of time, shouldn't have allowed these jokers to win the GE in the 1st place. We're stuck with the f*ckers for another 4.5 years yet, things can only get better anyone??



I blame the likes of Mutley.. with a little help from Trump we could push blokes like him over the border into Mexico.


a real head up their own arses moment for them back in July.. sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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Tories shouldn't have been so shite then.


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Pooly_Imp wrote:
Tories shouldn't have been so shite then.



True,there was only Nigel Farage who came up smelling of roses..English ones of course.. :wink:


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It's fun watching the tally rise, now 1,261,601, some angry voters.


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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Critical Thinking wrote:
It's fun watching the tally rise, now 1,261,601, some angry voters.



Let me be the first one to raise one of Nigel Farage's gin range to that... :flags-wavegreatbritain: :flags-wavegreatbritain: :flags-wavegreatbritain: :)


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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Pooly_Imp wrote:
Tories shouldn't have been so shite then.


Maybe they shouldn't but maybe the electorate shouldn't have been so gullible either. Basically it depends which way you look at it.

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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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10% of those who voted Reform and Tory. Pointless exercise.


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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Yeah, would much rather have the Tories in charge, as it was all going so well after 14 years of self servitude, and parties that weren't parties while the rest of us followed the rules refred stpid


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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What, inflation was falling and economic growth was on the up, now inflation is rising and growth is falling, while taxes are at a record high since the end of WW2.
And Starmer and Angela were partying in Durham but had a friendly police force investigating their breach of the rules.


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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1,630,202 @ 9.46pm. probably be 5 million some time tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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It all just highlights that Party Politics are ruining the country and our standards of living.
In it for Themselves then Party and screw the electorate. We could do with a wartime like coalition where the best people are doing the jobs of government for the national interest rather than greedy self interest, or petty power mad Party interests.
It ain't going to improve much if at all under either of the main party's.


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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Doesnt matter how many people sign the petition, nothing will change and in five years time when the Tories get back in, some comrade will do the same thing which will achieve the same result. I presume it is all about embarrassing the present government more than anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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PTID wrote:
What, inflation was falling and economic growth was on the up, now inflation is rising and growth is falling, while taxes are at a record high since the end of WW2.
And Starmer and Angela were partying in Durham but had a friendly police force investigating their breach of the rules.


Inflation was coming down after it went sky high on their watch. Economic growth - you're having a laugh - it basically flat lined over 14 years. Think you're also forgetting Truss-onomics, when they completely crashed the economy, the run on the pound and the mortgage repayments that have gone through the roof. Or are you lucky enough to have already paid your mortgage off?

Not for one minute saying Labour are making a decent fist of it- as it's too early to judge. Though the outrage of farmers with a couple of million quid in the bank is laughable - wish I had their problems!

Show me a poor farmer and I'll show you a happy jogger! They just don't exist or are as rare as white dog shit, if they do! bbolt


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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It's not too early to say that Starmer and Co have been taking freebies, or too late to say that inflation is on the up, growth forecast to fall (many economists even forecasting recession next year), unemployment forecast to rise as a result of NI rises, highest taxes since WW2, as well as a hit on farming, IHT, Stamp Duty, etc is it? Or was I dreaming we've just had a Labour budget?
A couple of million signatures on a petition within days against this government is unprecedented and indicates a general feeling of dissatisfaction among the electorate, even Truss and Qwarteng didn't get such a reaction to their budget.


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Gerry Mandrake wrote:
Same people doing this will be the ones who had a fit when a petition to have another referendum on Brexit was put up.

Horses for courses.

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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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PTID wrote:
Waste of time, shouldn't have allowed these jokers to win the GE in the 1st place. We're stuck with the f*ckers for another 4.5 years yet, things can only get better anyone??



I blame the likes of Mutley.. with a little help from Trump we could push blokes like him over the border into Mexico.


a real head up their own arses moment for them back in July.. sctatchinghead

People in the past were correct....you really are a thick mental kunt!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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Gerry Mandrake wrote:
Same people doing this will be the ones who had a fit when a petition to have another referendum on Brexit was put up.

Yep.


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Yeah, would much rather have the Tories in charge, as it was all going so well after 14 years of self servitude, and parties that weren't parties while the rest of us followed the rules refred stpid

The Tory’s won’t get back in, they’ve got two terms in the wilderness due, but this shower definitely aren’t the answer either…politically we’ve jumped ship from the Titanic to the Mary Celeste on Steroids.

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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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Gerry Mandrake wrote:
Same people doing this will be the ones who had a fit when a petition to have another referendum on Brexit was put up.

Yep.

Don’t see a problem…if people with opposing views want to petition Parliament which is legal let them get on with it, nothings gonna change.
I don’t get the hypocrisy line either, it’s only hypocrisy in the eyes of their opponents because they were challenged.
It will change feck all so calm down..

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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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I am calm.


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I am calm.

You’ve never been calm all the time I’ve known you…either chilled or going up like a rocket …. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Your ‘calmness’ is appreciated. :wink:

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MutleyRules wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
PTID wrote:
Waste of time, shouldn't have allowed these jokers to win the GE in the 1st place. We're stuck with the f*ckers for another 4.5 years yet, things can only get better anyone??



I blame the likes of Mutley.. with a little help from Trump we could push blokes like him over the border into Mexico.


a real head up their own arses moment for them back in July.. sctatchinghead

People in the past were correct....you really are a thick mental kunt!!!



What's the name of the school you went to again?


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Has this ever happened before so soon after a General Election.? sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Petition calling for another General Election
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Mr Kettering, to answer your question yes my mortgage is paid off but nothing to do with luck. I took my first mortgage out in early 80s at an interest rate if 5.8% pretty much average rare at the time, within a couple of years that increased to 15%!
When the rate dropped I kept my payments at the higher rate which signifantly reduced the term. To do this I managed with modest cars, holidays, and standard of living. I also saved into pension funds and ISAs when I could. As all of this had to be paid for and managed from net income, I'd say I've got what I've worked hard for and earned - no luck involved imo.
I'd advise anyone with a mortgage to get it paid as soon as possible, and ask themselves will they be better off having flash cars and being or ditching the debt.


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Agree with most of that but I let the mortgage run full term as becomes a decreasing part of my outgoings percentagewise after the first ten years.
But, whatever suits your circumstances.

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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Doesnt matter how many people sign the petition, nothing will change and in five years time when the Tories get back in, some comrade will do the same thing which will achieve the same result. I presume it is all about embarrassing the present government more than anything.

plus its so easy and quick to do is sign the petition. said before that people nowadays are like sheep and will follow easily. how many of these would have wrote letters in wanting a new general election when work is needed to do that and having to fork out for a stamp on top. kemi, nige and very few others.


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Mr Kettering, to answer your question yes my mortgage is paid off but nothing to do with luck. I took my first mortgage out in early 80s at an interest rate if 5.8% pretty much average rare at the time, within a couple of years that increased to 15%!
When the rate dropped I kept my payments at the higher rate which signifantly reduced the term. To do this I managed with modest cars, holidays, and standard of living. I also saved into pension funds and ISAs when I could. As all of this had to be paid for and managed from net income, I'd say I've got what I've worked hard for and earned - no luck involved imo.
I'd advise anyone with a mortgage to get it paid as soon as possible, and ask themselves will they be better off having flash cars and being or ditching the debt.

buying a house was a big wake up call for me. i,d took the odd short term bank loans out previously where the interest rate stayed the same. knowing little at the time i was shocked when the interest rate did rise and more so when i worked out the full amount i,d have to pay over 25 years for what became a noose around my neck, worked every hour i could just to end up more or less sleeping in the place and sod all else.


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MutleyRules wrote:
I am calm.

You’ve never been calm all the time I’ve known you…either chilled or going up like a rocket …. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Your ‘calmness’ is appreciated. :wink:

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Why wasn’t a petition started during all the years of the Tory Parliament ?


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I think the problem for Labour will be the local elections next May and I can see a load of Labour Councillors losing their seats.


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Think he needs to pull a few rabbits out of hats pretty soon. Promised change for good but as far as I can tell the only winners so far are people on minimum wage, although many of them may lose their jobs as a result of the rise and NI increases. Everyone will be hit by cost of living increases, and Council Tax is going to be a big increase with the shackles off. Problem is that most of the increases affect stuff for us that's not optional, energy, utilities, CT, food.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Why wasn’t a petition started during all the years of the Tory Parliament ?

or why cannot people just vote on line in an election as i,m sure you,d get everyone voting then who had a device to vote on. the tories were not that bad in 14 years but became that with covid and never really improved. labour have just gone from annoying one bunch to another who funnily have one thing in common. they are not the sore supporters of that party. its frightening to go back 5 years now and wondering how labour would have managed the problems the tories were left wanting.


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I think the problem for Labour will be the local elections next May and I can see a load of Labour Councillors losing their seats.

just like the tories did when they were last in power especially in there later years. the reason why all councillors should be independant of any of the parties with some decent people losing their seat because of the national government. we have reached a position where the majority vote against a party rather than for it. thats if they are arsed to do anyway.


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That's true Accy, Labour did not win the election, the Tories lost it.

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back to the petition i just wonder how many have voted for a new election who through age would be unable to vote in 5 years time.


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Why wasn’t a petition started during all the years of the Tory Parliament ?

You should have started one.

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Why wasn’t a petition started during all the years of the Tory Parliament ?

You should have started one.


Because they are a waste of time, what government if any ever took notice of a petition.


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This whole idea of this petition seems a bit silly really. Nearly 29m people just voted on at an election and it is what it is.

Perhaps connected though, what seems different in the last ten years-ish is the waves of negativity, posts and articles, constantly trying to undermine anything that is proposed - and that goes for both sides. Russian interference is widely reported and they are looking to de-stabilise democracies, basically by turning people on one another. Along with others, I think they've created an environment where opinions have never been more polarised and conspiracies become mainstream. With all that going on, it seems almost impossible to govern from any kind of moderate standpoint, with far right and far left parties doing very well.

You also get vested interests like the heads of media organisations manipulating opinion on behalf of billionaires. Take Musk in the US - he has benefitted massively from the American Dream, where someone can move to the country and make it big. He's also done that with the aid of government agencies. It is strange then that he's now looking to bring it down - what was so bad for him, with more money than he can ever spend, that he feels the need to cause mayhem.

The petition chimes with the general mayhem.


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Critical Thinking wrote:
I think the problem for Labour will be the local elections next May and I can see a load of Labour Councillors losing their seats.


This is very likely and Reform will do well. Going back to the election though, Farage showed he had few answers and was vapid in interviews. That won't matter as people are in the mood to tear everything up, for better or worse.


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Only 60% of the electorate voted in the last G.E. it just goes to show how much apathy there is towards politics, it would be interesting to know how many who are signing the petition voted in the last election. The comments on this vlog take some believing, people have short memories. Anyone can set up false email addresses and sign the petition, there is no way anyone knows if it’s real people signing the petition is this day AI.
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When it comes to debating football on the bunker we can all agree and disagree no real problems at all. But when it comes to politics each side tries to force their opinion on the other and neither side will give a inch WHY sctatchinghead By far and away the so called " political " threads are the ones with the most forceful opinions. It's impossible to debate any subject if all participants put their fingers in their ears and go bla bla bla. :roll: And for this reason I am out. :laugh:


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Nobody gives an inch on the footballing debates either. All of us form our opinions and rarely change them as a result of other opinions on here be it football, politics, or the shape of bananas.
All good natured in the main.


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PTID wrote:
Nobody gives an inch on the footballing debates either. All of us form our opinions and rarely change them as a result of other opinions on here be it football, politics, or the shape of bananas.
All good natured in the main.


I for one am overjoyed that thanks to the efforts of Nigel Farage we've retained our bendy bananas (which weren't actually banned but that's not the point.) :wink: :laugh:


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It made me smile when someone who had filled in the petition then make a statement that, to quote Starmer, his father was a toolmaker when he should have been a condom maker.


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Mikey76 wrote:
PTID wrote:
Nobody gives an inch on the footballing debates either. All of us form our opinions and rarely change them as a result of other opinions on here be it football, politics, or the shape of bananas.
All good natured in the main.


I for one am overjoyed that thanks to the efforts of Nigel Farage we've retained our bendy bananas (which weren't actually banned but that's not the point.) :wink: :laugh:

It was Boris Johnson writing in the Telegraph who said that lie about the bananas....Twat!!!


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