The steel structure is going up on the site of the old Middleton yacht club for nesting structure for nesting Kittiwakes.
Originally all consulted party’s objected including the Council but were overruled by the then government so it goes ahead….and so will the mess….and will the seagulls decide they might like moving in, they ain’t exactly gonna issue rent books or reservations and could prove popular with the local rodent ‘community’…wouldn’t Steetley pier have been better as someone suggested…time will tell.

They will put a notice up Kittiwakes only, what’s going to attract them to it ?

My point exactly Jamie, apparently it’s some Danish company building them to compensate for Kittiwakes being massacred by their wind turbines.
There’s already a problem with Kittiwakes on houses down the Headland near the Fish Quay crapping everywhere and the developers say this will attract them over to their new structure……so will the present Kittiwakes get letters telling them to move over to Middleton ….and what’s to say the gulls won’t take it over…talk about wishful woke fairytales…the birds will do just what they want.

The main nesting place seems to be the old bank opposite the Fishman’s Arms and I really feel for the people who live round there. The noise and mess is horrendous.
I don’t know what the birds look for in a nesting place but presumably something cliff like, which the cornicing on the bank mimics.
If the company providing the shelter have experience of this, as mentioned above, you’ve got to assume they’ve worked elsewhere. I’m intrigued to know if and how it works. Does this not just mean more kittiwakes rather than the existing colony moving though?

they wont because the council will erect a sign telling them to keep off in 6 different languages and they,ll all be quite happy to conform to become nice little birdies.

better to blow up the pointless bloody ugly wind turbines that are a blot on the view and landscape.

There's a plan to deport them to Rwanda if they won't go to their new homes voluntarily

Moving something a few hundred yards away in an urban setting will make no difference…there’s locations down the coast past Saltburn and north at Blackhall who actually have cliffs…..to put this in that location originally objected to by the Council, Port Authority and residents is crazy…will the present Kittiwakes be getting ‘notices to quit’ and rent books for their new location…did the planners not realise the birds are where they are, because it’s adjacent to the fish quay…..easy pickings …doh.

Rent and council tax free i hear.

I blame the Nort Sea.

Yeah, let's go back to mining coal to power the 58,000 homes they supply. Or just get some power from Putin, once Trump solves the Ukraine crisis.
All those jobs that have been created in the offshore wind sector aren't really needed anyway.

just google energy follower about their lifespan the maintainance needed along with componant failure that makes them an expensive and pointless way to lower the dole queues. big problem now is where to find young coal miners anymore and after doing a pointless university course they,ll not look kindly to going underground in a dangerous job especially the ones living in fear of everything in their life.

One saving grace Kittiwakes migrate in the winter although how are they going to keep other species out of the habitat ?

They’ll sub let, kittiwakes are complete bastards as landlords…..

Ironically, wind turbines are not recyclable.

bet they didn,t vote for brexit either.

Saw it this morning and it looks impressive.

Won’t bother them as freedom of movement won’t affect them.

So did the Titanic….sorry just couldn’t help myself
Mind you when it’s covered in …er… cough….’droppings’….it may lose its charm.
I caught sight of it driving round the bend yesterday morning…thought a giant Xmas decoration had fallen off a giant Xmas tree….hope it’s stainless steel.

Really? Okay then.

Yes …really .

I mean while it’s incredibly easy to find that turbines are between 85-95% recyclable, should I just take a comment on a message board as fact now?

You’ve obviously read the happy clappy Orsted forecast, bit like selective reading where you can always find some body to back up your view.
Australia does it…..At a cost….but just them.
Let’s get down to hard basic facts… it’s all about the money……any metal parts can obviously be recycled…but the blades and other items are made of fibre glass which is economically difficult to process at recycling …which is a cost to be added to obviously reduce profitability.
Therefore the majority of users simply incinerate or consign them to landfill around the world……it’s all about profitability not what’s possible.
Real world engineering.

Okay, good to see we’re moving on from your initial assertion that wind turbines aren’t recyclable, to they are but it’s expensive.
I’ve no doubt some of the earliest blades have been sent to landfill but luckily humans are ingenious and are constantly looking at ways to simplify recycling, with later iterations of blades becoming increasingly easy to recycle. Even older stock can be used in cement, recycled for structural use, melted down (yes expensive) and more. Point is, science constantly finds ways to solve challenges.
All of this is without even acknowledging the huge advantages of clean energy versus fossil fuels. I won’t list them out here because I’m almost certainly boring people already but sufficed to say ‘they’re difficult to recycle’ is a blunt statement without acknowledging the wider environmental benefits (which I’m sure as an intelligent bloke you see). As always these discussions aren’t black and white, (hence why I bother engaging in this stuff.)

Stop denying the facts and face up to the practicalities of letting wishful dreams be your yard stick.
Clean energy comes at a cost….financial and operational…they are not consistent from an engineering point of view.
Face facts ..everything from used condoms to Turkeys bollocks are recyclable, but….at what cost and what market for the recycled by product just for starters.
Most are still dumped…anyone wanting to make a profit from their production ain’t gonna reduce their margins to blow their profits on recycling something that theirs a small market for this by product.
Millibean may get aroused, but he’s using state money ( our money) which will hike up the cost to that private investors won’t touch with a barge pole..
He’s just announced that his promised pre election plangent to cut energ costs won’t begin till 2030…..Bullshit par excellence.

I understand that the steps you can see are for visitor viewing. Behind each nesting area there will be a one way mirror so we can watch them "getting it on"

So we should just stop recycling because there's always a cost?? Bloody hell there was even a cost to recycling bottles back in the day...3p per bottle given to us.
I thought you wanted to leave the Planet in a good state for your children and grandchildren??

Whooooa, have you actually read what I said…?

I said the cost of recycling turbine blades is prohibitive …..and that most around the world are incinerated or sent to landfill.
We were discussing turbine blades, nothing else

I never said recycling was wrong, that would be stupid of me and NOT what I said so don’t say I did….because I didn’t.

I would imagine it would need regularly cleaning of all the bird poo or it will stink, who is going to be responsible for that ?

Correct Jamie….we have cliffs to South and cliffs to the North…so instead they stick it in the middle of an urban area
Blame the Tory’s Environment Minister for that one, they overrode all objections to it.

So there!!!!

You said....

Face facts ..everything from used condoms to Turkeys bollocks are recyclable, but….at what cost and what market for the recycled by product just for starters.

So you weren't just on about Wind Turbine....you mentioned other things that cost to recycle.

Fetish Bob.

Maybe the Hartlepool Guano Company could be set up. Good money in natural fertilisers and surely we have enough knowledge of them with the industrial history of the area.

Yer a feckin nit picker …… get out of my sight…

I won’t quote that long, largely nonsensical diatribe Mr. Snowy Sir, if only to save space but in the nicest possible way you’re clearly a lost cause. You kept mentioning facts while completely ignoring the overwhelming views and findings of the scientific community. Yes, everything has a cost including the alternatives you might consider better. Renewable energy is a good thing environmentally, from a security point of view but also as an industry that is employing 100s of 1000s across the country and large numbers on Teesside. It’s the jobs of now and the future, so if you were leader of the country we’d be making a lot of people redundant, stifling innovative and choking on fumes while making Putin rich.
Love and respect though my man.

Also, used condoms are recyclable. Can easy get 10 uses out of them. That’s only 8 mins use in total.

Do you put your used condoms in the wash and hang them on the line.

Yeah, hang em on the line with the tea bags.

He does but ….he scrubs em with a Brillo pad first…which explains his 19 kids.

To describe someone’s point of view as a ‘nonsensical diatribe’ and then describe me as a ‘lost cause’ reminds of an engineer who talked just like you in the early 80’s with your enchanting vision of utopia before the decade was out…..how we laughed…I’m still laughing now. We called him Captain Gullible…Dream on.

Maybe just maybe this is the very same Captain Gullible

Well I would have been around 8 years old. Was the engineer 8 years old?

Also, do you know any other engineers or just one?

Cheers … just what I anticipated you’d say……..

[quote="Snowy"]Cheers … just what I anticipated you’d say……..[/quote

Do you…?

The Bunker Derek Acorah.

The engineers wife:
A wife asks her husband, an engineer, " Darling, can you go to the shops and buy a pint of milk and if they have eggs get a dozen! "
Off he goes. Half hour later he returns with 12 pints of milk.
His wife stares at him and asks, " Why on earth did you get 12 pints of milk? "
" Well ....they had eggs " he replies. Might lighten the mood.

If that’s what you’re identifying as now, you go for it !