The £2 limit on bus fares by the Tories for the last two years has been raised by the Dear Leader Starmer ….so that’s bus fares about to go up to £3 under his management.
Pity the people who have to use the buses … surely with their chest beating about net zero they’d be encouraging people to use public transport and buses in particular…but it appears not.
Does he not realise low income families rely on the buses……

The £2 fare was only until December 2024 anyway so he has actually extended the scheme for another year, but with an increased limit.

If he hadn't extended it then fares would have gone back to where they were pre-scheme and nobody would be using the buses.

But as with all public transport, it should be priced for the public to use not for stakeholders to pocket dividends

He could have left it at £2….it’s the lowest paid who’ll be hit.
Is he suffering from some of inverted snobbery because he seems to have it in for the poorest.
Nationalise the buses in my opinion…if they’re serious about net zero instead of Milliband getting aroused by his wind turbines, try practical solutions.

50% price increase, just as well he's focusing on getting inflation under control. Won't affect him and his ilk who've probably never been on a bus in their lives.

The only bus they ever go on is a luxury £250,000 campaign bus.

Aye, I’ve yet to get on a bus with a bidet.

A single was £1.90 on same town travel before the cap was put in place so stagecoach have no right to increase it. £3 would be ok for inter town travel?
£3 is the maximum cap.

Spot on Bluestreak.

Lets see what Stagecoach etc do.

The £2 cap was a bit strange but great. I travelled from Hull to York when there was a rail strike for £2.

I think all fares should be subsidised, because if they’re going on about reducing car use they have to offer a viable and affordable alternative.

What I don’t agree with is the £2 charge soon to be £3 as that’s for no matter where you get off, 1 stop or 10 stops. For a family it would be cheaper getting a taxi, Uber have started operations in the town cheaper than 23 but from what I have been told the nearest car can be in the Boro and you have to wait for it.

What I found ironic was Starmer said he wanted to get things moving so he was putting the fare up to £3 to help.
The bloke is other worldly…….if you’re on minimum wage, raising the fares by 50% is not very helpful.

Tax car ownership and use to deter usage, raise rail and bus fares to deter usage, tax overseas travel, seems to be it's a drive to reduce mobility - has Milliband got a hand in all this with his green ideals, or is there something more sinister?

yes, all those who run inside the boundaries of towns should but not for joyriders going for a day out from say leeds to scarborough. same for the free pensioner card. they were brought in for pensioners going to the shops etc, and not joy riding across the country. please do not say its to keep warm as half of my local fleet are hot in summer and cold and draughty in winter where you feel the warmth when you get off.

The Greens in Scotland wanted to stop all future roads and roadworks and I understand Labour in Wales are off on the same route after their 20mph stunt crashed and burned…..these people live in some imaginary self serving dream world where we all go back to basics and reject the modern world…I call the masochists searching for a new kick.
We’ll end up living like early Victorians, the higlight of the week bring thr traditional Sunday Kale stew containing…Kale…nowt else…then down to aye Olde Tabern for a pint of their finest Coconut Milk…..the futures grim.

Yes in some countries its free or very cheap.

The free one’s a bit funny, when the allowed free travel for under 18’s in London the upper decks became meeting places for groups of youths just riding back and forth.

yes and rail travel is much cheaper but not privatised like both are in this country. however i have no clue how integrated public transport in abroad. the old idea of buses used for short journeys and trains used for the longer ones is the best way forward outside of the country areas where there is no railways since beeching or before. somebody always has to pay just for public transport to make its ends meet without making profits. do not mind that but i do mind subsidising pensioners and £2 travellers on their jollies.

Some of our road routes exist from hundreds of years ago same as the train routes maybe not as long ago though. Trying to improve the existing road and rail infrastructure in the U.K. is very expensive and planning restrictions. Spain, Italy, Portugal and France all have a great rail system because they were built in ‘modern’ times and probably didn’t have the same planning restrictions as we have in the U.K.

our problem was car and road transport being thought as king in the late 50,s that lead both to beeching and the motorway networks. the railways had to publish their costs for transportation by the road hauliers were exempt from this. one thing labour cannot be blamed for but never redressed the problem they caused. everything just snowballed out of control that caused even more road building and improvements on what was built earlier.

I was in Scarborough earlier in the year and went to get the bus up to Whitby for a few pints and a walk along the beach. I couldn't believe it when I asked for a return ticket and the driver told me it was only £2 each way and no need for return tickets. Proves how often I use a bus.

2 days later I took the piss and got the bus to York just for a walk around. Would never have done that before.

thats not why buses are subsidised for either in this country or abroad no matter what you gained out of the experiance. did you spend anymore in whitby or york because you got there on the cheap. just think for a minute if you lived in blackpool and the buses and trams were run by the council and as a resident you were subsidising free or cheap travel for holiday makers as well as local residents.

I don't disagree with you. I live North of the Border where we have just ended a trial of removing Peak Time rates from train travel. We still have free bus travel for under 23s (??) and over 60s.

I was amazed when the driver only asked for £2 each way as I had never heard of the scheme so Googled it when I got to Whitby. An old guy in the pub I was sat in was telling me he had a hospital appointment at James Cook the next day and would save a lot over the old way as he would pay £4 each way (2 different buses to get there).