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As you all know by now I would rather give D.S more time but if he goes who would you want to replace him. sctatchinghead I would want Wild because of his good work at both Halifax and Barrow. :wink:


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KPG, Loyal, and Billy on a job share.


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Chris Beech for me, over a hundred games for us, can't be any worse.


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Chris Beech for me, over a hundred games for us, can't be any worse.


Not a bad shout but didn't he go on strike and force a transfer back in the day. sctatchinghead He has never once said anything positive about Pools since he left but has consistently talked us down after games against his teams. So it's a no from Len. And please nobody mention that twat Phil Brown banghead


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Not a bad shout but didn't he go on strike and force a transfer back in the day. sctatchinghead He has never once said anything positive about Pools since he left but has consistently talked us down after games against his teams

Yes, I had forgotten about that :roll:


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KPG, Loyal, and Billy on a job share.


It probably sounds mad but soon one club will surely give the team management job to maybe 3 long term supporters to pick the team sit in the dugout etc. The training and tactics could be agreed with the players and coaches. Who knows it might happen I know Georgie Reynolds was thinking that way after Hodgy. :wink:


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Pete wild
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Gotta be Pete Wild, if he would come here.


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KPG, Loyal, and Billy on a job share.

If only… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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KPG, Loyal, and Billy on a job share.

If only… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



In theory its a yes, BUT we all know what happens when they get the formans job.
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Robbie Savage

Currently managing Macclesfield town and would like to manage at the top level one day

Currently has Macclesfield top of the league - and into the 3rd qualifying round of the FA cup

Played 10 - won 8 - drawn 2 - GF 20 - GA 5

Ok he might need more time, but definitely worth keeping an eye on for the future


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Grayhoundend wrote:
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KPG, Loyal, and Billy on a job share.

If only… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



In theory its a yes, BUT we all know what happens when they get the formans job.
The working class can kiss my ****

…I’ve got the Foreman’s job at last…. :laugh:

How would they cope with the flak, or would they attack themselves :laugh:

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Sarll definitely deserves more time, he needs to try something else tactically, but his recruitment has been very good. If he can find a system that works, then I think we will still have a very strong season. But at the moment we’re too one-dimensional and if the opposition set up to nullify our formation, then changing players in the same formation isn’t going to improve things, so he needs an alternative approach that he can switch to.

However, if it did happen, 100% Pete Wild. What he did with Halifax (and also Barrow before the financial plug was pulled), was excellent. Wild had a higher win percentage during his time at Halifax (46.67%) than Challinor had during his time at Pools (45.56%).

Beech has 100 games of experience in being a poor manager. He had a 31% win percentage at Carlisle and 35% at Fylde.


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KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:
Robbie Savage

Currently managing Macclesfield town and would like to manage at the top level one day

Currently has Macclesfield top of the league - and into the 3rd qualifying round of the FA cup

Played 10 - won 8 - drawn 2 - GF 20 - GA 5

Ok he might need more time, but definitely worth keeping an eye on for the future


I don't think he would even consider any other job. Its something to do with him being a part owner of Macclefield and board member. He was the first in to try a rescue pkg for Macclesfield and persuaded local Owner of Stockport Town to help buy the Maccs ground land lock stock n barrel. The club is run day to day by Savage. He with the owners finances built the team and brought in a manager. The reason he took the managers job was because he promised the owner to let him run the show and he agreed. Savage wants success now so got frustrated by the lack of promotions that have cost them what could be a place in National League. He will stay at Macclesfield forever. And will be playing in this league and possibly higher in a few years. :wink:


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I suspect the funeral arrangements for Sarl are a little hasty, as the deceased has not yet actually died…..he may be hovering twixt the shadows and the afterlife but appears surprisingly healthy…
When it comes it will be sudden….. don’t order the wreaths for another fortnight. :laugh:

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We now have the conundrum of the back to back home games syndrome.
Get him sacked today Singhy.
Swallow your pride about getting rid of KP before this crank forces the big A.
We all know its the last chance saloon season. UTP.


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 Post subject: Re: OK so who would you want as the new manager if the axe f
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I suspect the funeral arrangements for Sarl are a little hasty, as the deceased has not yet actually died…..he may be hovering twixt the shadows and the afterlife but appears surprisingly healthy…
When it comes it will be sudden….. don’t order the wreaths for another fortnight. :laugh:

what gets me is why did this topic not come up earlier. after a second half change of tactics at boston he was a hero. a defeat where most fans expected a point as the bare minimum seems to be the catalyst for a sarll out campaign. if we kick start our home form with a win on saturday followed by another the tuesday after no matter the tactics he uses will he then go from zero to hero. he,ll live or die with performances and results but feel if he does fail he cannot blame anybody but himself. personally i,d give him till the end of october before a decision is made taking all factors into consideration.


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KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:
Robbie Savage

Currently managing Macclesfield town and would like to manage at the top level one day

Currently has Macclesfield top of the league - and into the 3rd qualifying round of the FA cup

Played 10 - won 8 - drawn 2 - GF 20 - GA 5

Ok he might need more time, but definitely worth keeping an eye on for the future

thats never going to happen but would give us some free publicity if it did. the downside would be we,d have a name change of the club to robbie savages hartlepool united.


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I suspect the funeral arrangements for Sarl are a little hasty, as the deceased has not yet actually died…..he may be hovering twixt the shadows and the afterlife but appears surprisingly healthy…
When it comes it will be sudden….. don’t order the wreaths for another fortnight. :laugh:

what gets me is why did this topic not come up earlier. after a second half change of tactics at boston he was a hero. a defeat where most fans expected a point as the bare minimum seems to be the catalyst for a sarll out campaign. if we kick start our home form with a win on saturday followed by another the tuesday after no matter the tactics he uses will he then go from zero to hero. he,ll live or die with performances and results but feel if he does fail he cannot blame anybody but himself. personally i,d give him till the end of october before a decision is made taking all factors into consideration.


I’m still positive, I’ve been relatively comfortable with our progress up until Saturday. As I’ve said a few times, Sarll’s recruitment has been good and the team are obviously fit (so he’s already light years ahead of Hartley). He’s been concentrating on the defence, and has made us very difficult to score against (so he’s ahead of Askey in that regard). The tradeoff has been the attack, but there have been signs in the last few games that we were making progress on being able to strike a better balance.

Saturday was a huge step backwards. Not only did the starting team not work, but making substitutions didn’t change much either (imo, he did make the correct changes, based on what we had available). What he didn’t do, and what he needs to have in his back pocket is a change in system. Teams will quickly work out that we play the same formation every week, and prepare for that. We need to have a plan B for if it’s not working.

I’m also not comfortable with our attacking patterns, they all seem very disjointed, I’m not sure that they are practicing attacking patterns and overloads in training. They all seem to be down to individual creativity rather than having a plan, as if he’s saying to them that once they get over the half-way line, just use your creativity. Previously, for example if the winger had the ball, you’d be able to see the fullback knows when to overlap, the central midfielder would know when to come short, Mani would know when to be at the near or far post and would know whether he has an attacking midfielder arriving late into the box to lay it off to. Because we don’t appear to have that level of tactical understanding drilled into them, a lot of the passes look aimless, because they are guessing.

The long ball works for the likes of Tamworth, because they know how to do it. You either put it up to the big striker who will win it with his back to goal and lay it off to a player close by him, or you play it into the channels over the top of your wingers who will be running onto it with pace.

Mani isn’t great in the air with his back to goal, he is usually double marked as he is the only striker against 2 defenders, and there is usually nobody close enough to him to lay the ball off to. He does better with the long ball to his feet, but you need to be much more precise with that, as a lower flighted ball is easier to intercept before it gets to him.

Charman has shown he can chase the balls over the top as he stays wide, Grey still prefers to come inside and wants to run at people with the ball.


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accrington fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
I suspect the funeral arrangements for Sarl are a little hasty, as the deceased has not yet actually died…..he may be hovering twixt the shadows and the afterlife but appears surprisingly healthy…
When it comes it will be sudden….. don’t order the wreaths for another fortnight. :laugh:

what gets me is why did this topic not come up earlier. after a second half change of tactics at boston he was a hero. a defeat where most fans expected a point as the bare minimum seems to be the catalyst for a sarll out campaign. if we kick start our home form with a win on saturday followed by another the tuesday after no matter the tactics he uses will he then go from zero to hero. he,ll live or die with performances and results but feel if he does fail he cannot blame anybody but himself. personally i,d give him till the end of october before a decision is made taking all factors into consideration.


I’m still positive, I’ve been relatively comfortable with our progress up until Saturday. As I’ve said a few times, Sarll’s recruitment has been good and the team are obviously fit (so he’s already light years ahead of Hartley). He’s been concentrating on the defence, and has made us very difficult to score against (so he’s ahead of Askey in that regard). The tradeoff has been the attack, but there have been signs in the last few games that we were making progress on being able to strike a better balance.

Saturday was a huge step backwards. Not only did the starting team not work, but making substitutions didn’t change much either (imo, he did make the correct changes, based on what we had available). What he didn’t do, and what he needs to have in his back pocket is a change in system. Teams will quickly work out that we play the same formation every week, and prepare for that. We need to have a plan B for if it’s not working.

I’m also not comfortable with our attacking patterns, they all seem very disjointed, I’m not sure that they are practicing attacking patterns and overloads in training. They all seem to be down to individual creativity rather than having a plan, as if he’s saying to them that once they get over the half-way line, just use your creativity. Previously, for example if the winger had the ball, you’d be able to see the fullback knows when to overlap, the central midfielder would know when to come short, Mani would know when to be at the near or far post and would know whether he has an attacking midfielder arriving late into the box to lay it off to. Because we don’t appear to have that level of tactical understanding drilled into them, a lot of the passes look aimless, because they are guessing.

The long ball works for the likes of Tamworth, because they know how to do it. You either put it up to the big striker who will win it with his back to goal and lay it off to a player close by him, or you play it into the channels over the top of your wingers who will be running onto it with pace.

Mani isn’t great in the air with his back to goal, he is usually double marked as he is the only striker against 2 defenders, and there is usually nobody close enough to him to lay the ball off to. He does better with the long ball to his feet, but you need to be much more precise with that, as a lower flighted ball is easier to intercept before it gets to him.

Charman has shown he can chase the balls over the top as he stays wide, Grey still prefers to come inside and wants to run at people with the ball.


We on the same wave length :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: OK so who would you want as the new manager if the axe f
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accrington fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
I suspect the funeral arrangements for Sarl are a little hasty, as the deceased has not yet actually died…..he may be hovering twixt the shadows and the afterlife but appears surprisingly healthy…
When it comes it will be sudden….. don’t order the wreaths for another fortnight. :laugh:

what gets me is why did this topic not come up earlier. after a second half change of tactics at boston he was a hero. a defeat where most fans expected a point as the bare minimum seems to be the catalyst for a sarll out campaign. if we kick start our home form with a win on saturday followed by another the tuesday after no matter the tactics he uses will he then go from zero to hero. he,ll live or die with performances and results but feel if he does fail he cannot blame anybody but himself. personally i,d give him till the end of october before a decision is made taking all factors into consideration.


I’m still positive, I’ve been relatively comfortable with our progress up until Saturday. As I’ve said a few times, Sarll’s recruitment has been good and the team are obviously fit (so he’s already light years ahead of Hartley). He’s been concentrating on the defence, and has made us very difficult to score against (so he’s ahead of Askey in that regard). The tradeoff has been the attack, but there have been signs in the last few games that we were making progress on being able to strike a better balance.

Saturday was a huge step backwards. Not only did the starting team not work, but making substitutions didn’t change much either (imo, he did make the correct changes, based on what we had available). What he didn’t do, and what he needs to have in his back pocket is a change in system. Teams will quickly work out that we play the same formation every week, and prepare for that. We need to have a plan B for if it’s not working.

I’m also not comfortable with our attacking patterns, they all seem very disjointed, I’m not sure that they are practicing attacking patterns and overloads in training. They all seem to be down to individual creativity rather than having a plan, as if he’s saying to them that once they get over the half-way line, just use your creativity. Previously, for example if the winger had the ball, you’d be able to see the fullback knows when to overlap, the central midfielder would know when to come short, Mani would know when to be at the near or far post and would know whether he has an attacking midfielder arriving late into the box to lay it off to. Because we don’t appear to have that level of tactical understanding drilled into them, a lot of the passes look aimless, because they are guessing.

The long ball works for the likes of Tamworth, because they know how to do it. You either put it up to the big striker who will win it with his back to goal and lay it off to a player close by him, or you play it into the channels over the top of your wingers who will be running onto it with pace.

Mani isn’t great in the air with his back to goal, he is usually double marked as he is the only striker against 2 defenders, and there is usually nobody close enough to him to lay the ball off to. He does better with the long ball to his feet, but you need to be much more precise with that, as a lower flighted ball is easier to intercept before it gets to him.

Charman has shown he can chase the balls over the top as he stays wide, Grey still prefers to come inside and wants to run at people with the ball.

I think this is pretty much my view. Unfortunately I don't share your enthusiasm that we will get it right in an attacking sense.
The fact that it doesn't seem like they've worked on anything attacking wise is very worrying for me. They've had just over 2 months worth of training and, yes we've tightened it up at the back, but we surely had time to sort out some patterns of play for the wingers and Mani D? We aren't putting long balls into channels at all, it's just to Mani D who is very isolated up front and getting crowded out. This might work against Rochdale/Gateshead etc. who play a much higher defensive line forcing Mani D to be closer to the midfield but that's a minority of games. The players are visibly frustrated on the pitch and Mancini said after Boston the style of play doesn't suit him.
I don't want another manager to be sacked but he's wasting the potential of Mani D, Grey, Campbell, Mancini etc. which, if the results don't improve, will be his downfall.


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It like I read earlier the opposition know well in advance now of how easy it is to stop us scoring.



We not playing to our top players strengths.


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Robbie Savage

Currently managing Macclesfield town and would like to manage at the top level one day

Currently has Macclesfield top of the league - and into the 3rd qualifying round of the FA cup

Played 10 - won 8 - drawn 2 - GF 20 - GA 5

Ok he might need more time, but definitely worth keeping an eye on for the future


Does he not own the club.


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We now have the conundrum of the back to back home games syndrome.
Get him sacked today Singhy.
Swallow your pride about getting rid of KP before this crank forces the big A.
We all know its the last chance saloon season. UTP.


I thought a certain member of the board, Did the hiring and fireing now.


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Snowy wrote:
I suspect the funeral arrangements for Sarl are a little hasty, as the deceased has not yet actually died…..he may be hovering twixt the shadows and the afterlife but appears surprisingly healthy…
When it comes it will be sudden….. don’t order the wreaths for another fortnight. :laugh:

what gets me is why did this topic not come up earlier. after a second half change of tactics at boston he was a hero. a defeat where most fans expected a point as the bare minimum seems to be the catalyst for a sarll out campaign. if we kick start our home form with a win on saturday followed by another the tuesday after no matter the tactics he uses will he then go from zero to hero. he,ll live or die with performances and results but feel if he does fail he cannot blame anybody but himself. personally i,d give him till the end of october before a decision is made taking all factors into consideration.


If things don,t improve dramatically our season will be over come the end of October.


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He stumbled on a good second half at boston, I doubt he would have taken sloggett off if he hadn't had a knock. Totally agree he's wasting the forward power we have. He said he sees seasons in stages, first was to sort out conceding goals, next stage to work on scoring. Shouldn't he be working on it all!!


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If we think punting the ball over the top for charman to chase is the way to go and grey needs to modify his game accordingly then we are in bigger trouble than I thought


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If we think punting the ball over the top for charman to chase is the way to go and grey needs to modify his game accordingly then we are in bigger trouble than I thought


That's if we wanted to persist with the long-ball and make it more effective. If we did that, we also might as well get rid of Mancini, Campbell and Featherstone, as they don't suit the style.

The way to go is to play like we did in the first 20 mins against Woking, the first and last 20 mins against Halifax and the 2nd half against Boston. Get the ball down and play football, practice attacking scenarios and positioning with the ball, but be ready with tactical changes to switch things around if something obviously isn't working.


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Regardless of the fact that we've played decent football in very short spells in a couple of games we've created almost feck all for Mani and Joe. Last season we were getting balls into dangerous areas for them to run onto. This season they're back to goal waiting for the snow covered punt to come down.
Has Fergy played a decent cross all season yet? Everything seems to have to be played at such a fast pace I think he's panicking because Sarll wants him back behind the ball as soon as it's left his foot.


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