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 Post subject: Rwanda Irony
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:12 pm 
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It appears the Germans are assessing sending illegals to …..Rwanda….. after examining the facilities we built. Ohdear, oh dear…oh dear. :roll:
Downing Street said they do not comment on discussions between two foreign Governments………..I bet they don’t :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Be interesting to see if they can get it past the ECHR and if they have as many legal challenges as were put in front of our government.
The fact is that as flights were getting closer more and more moved onto Ireland to claim asylum rather than hanging around here.


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PTID wrote:
Be interesting to see if they can get it past the ECHR and if they have as many legal challenges as were put in front of our government.
The fact is that as flights were getting closer more and more moved onto Ireland to claim asylum rather than hanging around here.

Same result ultimately…as for the ECHR…other countries aren’t as dumb as us who obey every judgement…..they ignore the judgements to suit their own purpose, it’s an art form with the French.

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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Snowy wrote:
PTID wrote:
Be interesting to see if they can get it past the ECHR and if they have as many legal challenges as were put in front of our government.
The fact is that as flights were getting closer more and more moved onto Ireland to claim asylum rather than hanging around here.

Same result ultimately…as for the ECHR…other countries aren’t as dumb as us who obey every judgement…..they ignore the judgements to suit their own purpose, it’s an art form with the French.

like going back to all those eu directives which this country implemented to the letter whilst others like france used them just as a guideline. then the remainers wondered why so many of us wanted out.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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accrington fan wrote:
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PTID wrote:
Be interesting to see if they can get it past the ECHR and if they have as many legal challenges as were put in front of our government.
The fact is that as flights were getting closer more and more moved onto Ireland to claim asylum rather than hanging around here.

Same result ultimately…as for the ECHR…other countries aren’t as dumb as us who obey every judgement…..they ignore the judgements to suit their own purpose, it’s an art form with the French.

like going back to all those eu directives which this country implemented to the letter whilst others like france used them just as a guideline. then the remainers wondered why so many of us wanted out.

We were like the kid who always handed their homework in while the rest of the class were rolling their eyes.
The Softy Walter of the EU.

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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Snowy wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
PTID wrote:
Be interesting to see if they can get it past the ECHR and if they have as many legal challenges as were put in front of our government.
The fact is that as flights were getting closer more and more moved onto Ireland to claim asylum rather than hanging around here.

Same result ultimately…as for the ECHR…other countries aren’t as dumb as us who obey every judgement…..they ignore the judgements to suit their own purpose, it’s an art form with the French.

like going back to all those eu directives which this country implemented to the letter whilst others like france used them just as a guideline. then the remainers wondered why so many of us wanted out.

We were like the kid who always handed their homework in while the rest of the class were rolling their eyes.
The Softy Walter of the EU.

as a country we love legislation and told what we can and cannot do no matter how stupid these laws look to an individual who mainly will follow em to the letter. in parks once you only had keep off the grass. now you have signs abounding on what you cannot do. what makes things worse in the number around who cannot wait to grass others in who break a minor law or rule where at one time being a grass was thought of as the lowest of the low unless it was something serious that they reported.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Rwanda could only ever take 200, how many 200s are in the 1000s seeking asylum, the small number was supposed to be a deterrent which it wasn’t, an asylum seeker would have been unlucky to be selected as 1 of the 200.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Rwanda could only ever take 200, how many 200s are in the 1000s seeking asylum, the small number was supposed to be a deterrent which it wasn’t, an asylum seeker would have been unlucky to be selected as 1 of the 200.

you,d think rwanda was just off the coast and not a few thousand miles away when they talk about it. possibly it was one thing were those who wanted to stop the boats and the all refugees welcome here lot agreed with. when opposite sides agree with something even for different reasons you know there is a problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Rwanda could only ever take 200, how many 200s are in the 1000s seeking asylum, the small number was supposed to be a deterrent which it wasn’t, an asylum seeker would have been unlucky to be selected as 1 of the 200.

Well those top Europeans the Germans are interested, didn’t they tell you :angry-tappingfoot: :laugh: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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But it was a deterrent, hence the rush to get to Ireland from here. The TeaShack fella was crying foul about the upsurge arriving there.


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But it was a deterrent, hence the rush to get to Ireland from here. The TeaShack fella was crying foul about the upsurge arriving there.


A deterrent how many went to Rwanda, 2 and they volunteered, I doubt very much the majority of the asylum seekers had ever heard of the Rwanda scheme.


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But some moved on to Ireland due to the increasing threat of Rwanda, hence they were deterred!
If Germany implements the plan it will be a deterrent.
The Australian scheme has been a resounding deterrent.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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But it was a deterrent, hence the rush to get to Ireland from here. The TeaShack fella was crying foul about the upsurge arriving there.


A deterrent how many went to Rwanda, 2 and they volunteered, I doubt very much the majority of the asylum seekers had ever heard of the Rwanda scheme.

Because the usual suspects the lawyers put a spanner in the works….as per normal.

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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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The ones that went to Ireland had heard of the plan and that's why they moved there. They were asked on tv.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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PTID wrote:
The ones that went to Ireland had heard of the plan and that's why they moved there. They were asked on tv.


Ireland is an island, how did they get there, certainly not on a dinghy, jump on the ferry ?


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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The ones that went to Ireland had heard of the plan and that's why they moved there. They were asked on tv.


Ireland is an island, how did they get there, certainly not on a dinghy, jump on the ferry ?

good point there. you hear about the irish having there problems but like you said how did they arrive there and where from.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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PTID wrote:
But some moved on to Ireland due to the increasing threat of Rwanda, hence they were deterred!
If Germany implements the plan it will be a deterrent.
The Australian scheme has been a resounding deterrent.

greenland might prove to be a bigger deterrent or blackpool.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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I've no idea how they got to Ireland but I'd expect it's not difficult to get there given the frequent ferry services and short distance involved. But get there they did and the Irish weren't happy about the numbers arriving there which is a bit strange given they're in the EU freedom of movement realm.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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A little bit of goggling provides the answer as to how they got to Ireland - crossed from mainland UK by ferry into NI and then easy to cross over into Ireland. Estimates were that 80% of all illegals into Ireland took that route.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Maybe a bit of Propaganda from Boris this one.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Hardly, bit of a barney between Ireland who were threatening to send them back to the UK and Sunak who was insulting we wouldn't accept them. Nowt to do with Boris.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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PTID wrote:
A little bit of goggling provides the answer as to how they got to Ireland - crossed from mainland UK by ferry into NI and then easy to cross over into Ireland. Estimates were that 80% of all illegals into Ireland took that route.


I did read that but how was it possible for them to board a ferry and pay the fare, nobody question them ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
PTID wrote:
A little bit of goggling provides the answer as to how they got to Ireland - crossed from mainland UK by ferry into NI and then easy to cross over into Ireland. Estimates were that 80% of all illegals into Ireland took that route.


I did read that but how was it possible for them to board a ferry and pay the fare, nobody question them ?


Why would you question them if they are taking the problem elsewhere.We were probably paying their fare.
It's called turning a blind eye. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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No checks on ferries between mainland and NI.Id imagine many went in the backs of lorries.


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there would be no checks on any of us either making the same journey.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Yep, no different to going to Scotland or Wales.


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 Post subject: Re: Rwanda Irony
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Nigel Farage must have been laughing his socks off seeing Starmer and Olaf Scholtz meeting up a week earlier ..What a sweaty hand shake that must have been.. :roll:


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Jamie1952 wrote:
PTID wrote:
The ones that went to Ireland had heard of the plan and that's why they moved there. They were asked on tv.


Ireland is an island, how did they get there, certainly not on a dinghy, jump on the ferry ?



Who offers the best benefit deal at the moment so you can just sit on your arse for the rest of your life ..Eire or the UK?.I bet they can all answer it because it's all part of the package tour selling.


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Looking at this article the U.K. do not give the best benefits to asylum seekers but they keep on coming to the U.K. ?
https://www.dw.com/en/asylum-benefits-i ... a-44298599


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