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 Post subject: Kieron Freeman
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:01 pm 
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Was Freeman substituted because of injury?


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:37 pm 
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Was Freeman substituted because of injury?


Listening to D.S. I reckon he took him off because we had loads of corners and he took them all. D.S. said they waisted all the corners. sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:56 pm 
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SD on, Sheron RB, Freeman off, Tactics i think.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:52 pm 
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Now you mention corners - Mancini needs to be kept off them. Twice last week I remember him wasting them and yesterday in the last few minutes, all of our big players up and again he couldn’t get the ball above a foot off the ground. Find someone else who can actually cross the ball ffs!


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:51 pm 
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Seems to be loads of shit corners across the top 5 divisions nowadays.
20 years ago they were a saviour of hope especially in the last 5 minutes of games.
Good curling crosses away from the keeper n defenders to receive bullet headers goal bound.


And defending corners n free kicks just outside the penalty area with no full backs on the post's.

And Wingers who had speed and quality crosses for forwards to actually score with their heads.


Conclusion the basics n entertainment values of the game dissappeard about 20 years ago when the foreign managers took over the Premier league.
And the other 4 divisions coppied this boring shit.

What yas reckon?!


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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I wouldn’t care, taking a corner and getting it at the right height in the middle of the box isn’t that difficult. Every professional footballer should be able to do it. What’s the point in filling your team full of big lads who are good in the air if all of your crosses into the box are 18 inches off the floor??


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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Short corner then a low ball with plenty of pace into the box can cause problems with deflections etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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JohnnyMars wrote:
I wouldn’t care, taking a corner and getting it at the right height in the middle of the box isn’t that difficult. Every professional footballer should be able to do it. What’s the point in filling your team full of big lads who are good in the air if all of your crosses into the box are 18 inches off the floor??

in his late 50,s my old man could take a corner on the local rec and tell you where it was being aimed for and the height it would be with the old type of heavy ball. when i asked him if he took corners when he played he replied no, that was another players job and being a defender he stayed well back. funny back in the day every player seemed to posess the basics like passing accuratly and kicking with both feet.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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accrington fan wrote:
JohnnyMars wrote:
I wouldn’t care, taking a corner and getting it at the right height in the middle of the box isn’t that difficult. Every professional footballer should be able to do it. What’s the point in filling your team full of big lads who are good in the air if all of your crosses into the box are 18 inches off the floor??

in his late 50,s my old man could take a corner on the local rec and tell you where it was being aimed for and the height it would be with the old type of heavy ball. when i asked him if he took corners when he played he replied no, that was another players job and being a defender he stayed well back. funny back in the day every player seemed to posess the basics like passing accuratly and kicking with both feet.


Ball is like kicking a fido nowadays.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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Full backs should defend and pass to the midfielders.
Fcuk this wing back shit crosses that rarely create goals.
Wingers job to put quality crosses in.
Paul Smith last one from Pools who did it for fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Full backs should defend and pass to the midfielders.
Fcuk this wing back shit crosses that rarely create goals.
Wingers job to put quality crosses in.
Paul Smith last one from Pools who did it for fun.

another case of complicating the game by managers and pundits to make us think how knowledgable they are. traditional full backs who attacked as well have been around since we won the world cup in 66 and not some new fancy invention with a new name. they,ll think up a new name to describe a goalkeeper next.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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Fergie used to make a lot of assists from crosses but doesn’t seem to get forward enough in the current system…


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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Would it not be better to go back to 3/5 at the back?
We don't have any fit wingers so why not go for a back 3 of Parkes, Sass-David and Dodds/Freeman. Wing backs of Fergie and Stephenson can provide the width and hopefully get Fergie providing the assists again. Play our best 2 players (Grey and Mani D) up front with Campbell (where he likes to play) or Mancini central behind them, then pick 2 defensive midfielders from the many we have.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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It must be a consideration, I’d have thought. It gives more flexibility with regard to offensive/defensive formations and as you say gets the wing backs forward more.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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JohnnyMars wrote:
Fergie used to make a lot of assists from crosses but doesn’t seem to get forward enough in the current system…


Fergie is lucky to be anywhere near this team now, cant defend and his crossing has been woeful the few times he has got forward.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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accrington fan wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Full backs should defend and pass to the midfielders.
Fcuk this wing back shit crosses that rarely create goals.
Wingers job to put quality crosses in.
Paul Smith last one from Pools who did it for fun.

another case of complicating the game by managers and pundits to make us think how knowledgable they are. traditional full backs who attacked as well have been around since we won the world cup in 66 and not some new fancy invention with a new name. they,ll think up a new name to describe a goalkeeper next.


SweeperKeeper.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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Krampesh wrote:
Would it not be better to go back to 3/5 at the back?
We don't have any fit wingers so why not go for a back 3 of Parkes, Sass-David and Dodds/Freeman. Wing backs of Fergie and Stephenson can provide the width and hopefully get Fergie providing the assists again. Play our best 2 players (Grey and Mani D) up front with Campbell (where he likes to play) or Mancini central behind them, then pick 2 defensive midfielders from the many we have.


Stop talking sense, The club know supporters know nowt.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:31 pm 
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Yeh the team just now is exactly setup for that - we have the power in the midfield and forwards to make that formation really work. Not sure why he hasnt tried it yet ? Would love to see Campbell or Mancini thrive. Meant to be getting a winger in too arnt we this week ? that helps the dynamic of the side. But like i always say, i dont think DS knows his best 11 or best formation yet.

Ferguson needs a replacement if we are serious about getting out this side tbh.

There is players in the league below that make him look poor. Watched a few NLN/NLS games recently and if Ronnie Moore hasnt picked up on some good players below us then i dont know what the mans doing.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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Not keeping him was the beginning of the defence collapse. We have 2 full backs struggling and Wingers incapable of helping them defensively - Charman even got to be left back for a part of a game!

I'd be on the phone to him in the morning as a last ditch plan to cover our defence. Otherwise it will be 5 at the back on Saturday with Waterfall added.

Even Stephenson's loan deal could be ended, at least the lad is up for it, learns fast from his errors.

Need some new faces and Lawrence and Sarll both shown the door,.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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Yeh say it quietly but Dodds has been poor defensively since he came back, we need some pace at center back as well


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:49 pm 
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Freeman is the best RB we've had this season. Really poor judgement not retaining his services - but we've comt to expect that.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Freeman is the best RB we've had this season. Really poor judgement not retaining his services - but we've comt to expect that.

him with dodds in front of him would be ideal on the right. problem is we are weaker down the left with the options we have.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
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loyal_fan wrote:
Yeh say it quietly but Dodds has been poor defensively since he came back, we need some pace at center back as well


Because Dodds is trying to do too much, Last night both FBs were at times playing like WBs, Parkes and Sass were left totally exposed.
Having said that the marking in the Penalty box was criminal.


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 Post subject: Re: Kieron Freeman
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:45 pm 
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we looked like the NLN side thats how bad it was and yes Dodds has been poor since his return also. I think confidence and not wanting to get injured again are all playing with his mind a bit - same with Mancini, i feel last night he may have felt something or realised he hasnt got it in the tank so went down. Hoping he isnt out for long again as he really is one of the only game changing good footballers we have.


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