Everyone in football should be laughing at Hartlepool now. Braintree and Wealdstone at home ffs DS is a fraud, just wants his players to hoof and assault. I am desperate for anything positive but they keep sucking the life out of it.

on that Sarl hasn't got a clue, he will be gone by November

Don’t agree, Pools would have comfortably won today’s game but for Waterfalls crass moment of stupidity. Braintree are a half decent outfit and will cause problems for better sides than Pools this season. However, Sarll needs to abandon his Mr Nice Guy persona in respect of his squad and publicly criticise players who are directly responsible for the loss of points vis their own juvenile actions.

Everyone says after 10 games into the season, we will see how we will do. With the exception of Three or Four teams that free fall or hit form and push into the playoffs.

Six games in and I think Mid table to playoffs still. As much as I don't like Sarll attitude on discipline, playing in a free spirit, because that will come back to bite us towards the end of the season.

On a couple of positive note, that's our fourth clean sheet of the season, I think that's equalled last season. We just need to start scoring goals now and also with these Red cards, Waterfall should be fit and injury free

In what fucking world are the likes of wealdstone, tamworth and Braintree ‘half decent outfits’
These are garbage teams that should be getting beaten easily, let’s check
At the end of the season how many of the playoff teams dropped points at home to
Fooking Braintree

Playoffs losers last season and FA Trophy finalise drew 1-1 at home, but your right, we should be doing a lot better against these teams. However, that's football.

I am starting to get the feeling that DS doesn't know how to coach a team to play football against part timers. He has talked a good game on fitness and desire, all that bullshit. Wealdstone and Braintree, is that our level now? He should resign right away, it is absolutely embarrassing. I can't even watch the post match interviews. He says he's honest and loves being straight forward. Explain how two amateur teams can compete and get draws at our place. Believe me, he is in trouble big time!!!!

No guarantee to win that game with 11 players.
We play a system which creates jack shit up front.
A bit of individual skill now n again to hit the woodwork which gets passed of as Unlucky.
KP with the 2 wingers n pace in the team now looks like what should of been.
Only football.

What KP who led us to the thrashing at Gateshead?

A one off game we're we bounced back straight away.
KPs win ratio was the best out of about the last 5 managers.
Bounce back ability.

Then people underestimate them and pay the price…over confidence is a bigger sin than treating every team with respect regardless.

In what world is the entire season defined by the 1st 6 games??
Some claiming the manager needs to go after a reasonable start then claim Raj is too trigger happy.

Yeah,that KP who won 6 drew 5 lost 4 scored 23 conceded 25, ok ended on -2 DF saw 28 yellow cards and Zero Red and 3 clean sheets in his official 15 games incharge, also working with someone else squad really.

DS, 6 games incharge, 2 wins, 3 draws, 1 lost, scored 5 conceded 4, seen 17 yellow and 3 reds, 4 clean sheets.

Carry on like this we will be the dirty dozen, were the referees and assistant refs will not give us anything at all, even if someone gets a compound fracture in the opposition box.
As I've said this start will hurt us towards the end of the season if the players don't clean up their act. We got lucky yesterday and against Southend, but looks what Woking did to us. If we carry on like this the teams coming up over Autumn and Winter, the better will batter us with 10 men.

Well that's is my opinion....

Yes your right, but it's the players discipline. DS needs to address it big time. We can't keep on playing every second game with 10 men and Parkes is 1 yellow away from his fifth.

It's a fair assessment.
Cant keep dropping pts to the so called shitter teams thru bad management thuggish tactics.

He could become a good Rugby or Cage Fighter Manager.

sarll may be a likeable bloke who says the right things for fans but really what has he ever won in his managerial career. since the days of challinor i,d have given all his replacements longer than any of them got apart from hartley and sarll needs until march at least to fully judge him.

If we're within a point of the play offs come March he'll be doing a decent job to be fair.

Not a chance he'll be still here in March.

Maybe ask yourself in what world KP's 15 game spell in charge is defined by one result while you're on?

Apart from the Woking game Sarll has made a massive improvement in Pools' ability to defend compared to the last couple of seasons, but at the minute it's at the expense of our ability to attack - and our ability to keep 11 players on the pitch!

Pools scored 10 in KP's last 6 games in charge and took 11 points. Sarll's team has scored 5 in 6 games and taken 9 points.

That said, it would be another really poor decision from Raj to get rid of Sarll now. I don't think there's any chance it will happen.

Of course I don't define KPs spell in charge by 1 result, he did a fine job with what he had available.

Just for the record wealdstone are actually full time these days.

We cant get rid of another manager so soon, got to give the guy a chance, but the riches he has up front are what no other manager has had since Challinor. Things have got to improve and bloody quickly. Lets be honest he has been incredibly lucky with the fixture list, but that will soon go out the window when we play the barnets, gatesheads, eastleighs and forest greens.

Im not sure i can class drawing 3 home games and losing a 2 nil lead away so far as being reasonable. One team we beat were smashed by 7 yesterday, so if ever their was a game i thought we would win it be at Tamworth, the yeovil result was an excellent one for this league though.

Raj wont give this guy long though as has proven before, he wont settle for losing 600 fans a week and dropping off further watching rather dull football. Excitement factor is bordering on zero for most the game, apart from fleeting moments.

We really should of been in top 3 with this lot of fixtures and we are wasting it. We look a mid table side when really we should be so much more. Lets see how the next 6 games pan out and if things arent changing then he might be in a spot of bother.

its back to the same old question of would we have been in a better or worse position if any of our ex managers were still in charge of us since challinor with the exception of murray. on the surface we have better players even if a couple have been a little disappointing so far but with a few who look to have gone backwards as well. might have to wait a bit longer till we see everyone being available for selection to see what sarll is all about. as personalies i was never a fan of KP but would love sarll to succeed.

We're averaging 1.5 points per game which over a season would be 69 points which would be around about the last play off position. We have the players to improve on that but can the manager find the right formula to do it?

And your entitled to it, But don,t tell Sir K
Do you mean dirty 10.

Can,t agree with got lucky, Only 1 team looked like scoring all game.

How on earth can you have lucky fixtures when you play everyone twice.

From what i saw yesterday i would rather spend my time looking at the positives, If yous can,t see them thats not my fault.
With the squad we have we have a really good chance of getting out of this fooking league.

sometimes you can play teams at the right time when they are in a bad run of form and have a long list of injured players. even teams who get relegated have a mini run of games and if you get them in that period you might think yourself unlucky. must have said a number of times that i was glad to play certain teams when we played them and the opposite.

thats if we get everyone available, make the best out of them all and cut out the stupid sending off stuff. even with the players we have out the bench was much stronger than it was last season where we managed 12th in the end.

Erm because we havent played any of the top sides. If we had sarl might of been fearing for his job already. To simplfy this one for you mr grayhound a new manager wouldnt want to start his career in the premier league by getting man city arsenal man u liverpooll and tottenham now would he? We have had a pretty good set of fixtures so far not sure why you seem to fail to see that.

Remember when we gel in november we play the better teams then, who knows we might be ready for them then.

If we get our good players playing yes we have, but first 6 games have shown we are not getting our good players playing. Something askey had us doing last season before he lost them.

If results don't improve rapidly then I can see the usual pre Xmas Mutiny kicking in.
Which results in ready-made Fevs to earn his double-barrelled 2 job wages.

Ya heard it here first.!!

Sounds reasonable, Works both ways.

Glad you simplified it for me and i won,t take offence, Not a snowflake you see.
Rather play them at the begining, But still have to face them, Not so sure we have had a simple set of fixtures, You know as well as myself that the easy teams we have faced will take points off other fancied teams as the season goes on.

Funny thing is Kevin, Lots calling for Feathers head last season, Not so many at the moment, But there's time

Fev has never been asked to play holding midfielder and he's got mobile players around him that's why he's looking decent again.

Too early to say we've had an easy start, Yeovil, Woking, who are on the same points as us, Southend one of the fancied teams 3 points behind with a game in hand, Tamworth who are no push overs on their plastic pitch.

Bit of a handbag clutching comment

Or maybe the players beached him.

Can understand the comparison to Kevin Phillips but he was tactically inept, his relationship with the players and man management played a big part in the change of fortune under Phillips.

Phillips was a bullshitter, who got lucky him showing up coincided with Parkes and waterfall showing up who he had nowt to do with signing

Give Askey those 2 and he’d have done a better job than Phillips, whose loan signings were garbage to a man

The 7-1 vs Gateshead showed him up, just stood there watching helpless to change things while we got humiliated

Of the 3 (Phillips Sarll and Askey) from what I have seen so far Askey was head and shoulders the best option and had actually achieved something elsewhere in terms of success (and no I don’t include Phillips winning the dog and duck league with a fantasy budget)

Time will tell on Sarll as early days so far but it’s been a very poor start in terms of results and playing style

Outside the play offs
Does that guarantee we have a very good March n April or are you happy to close the gap from 12th to 8th.
Resulting in sub 3000 crowds for next season.

He’s doing what Tinkler did withe Sweeney as his runner.

If we dont shape up then FA Cup early exit could seal his fate.
His failure to lack discipline could come back to self inflict his departure.

September is massive.
Surely to God its not more pts dropped on Saturday through anutha red card.

Obviously Raj has backed him to get his consultant pay himself fees up to EFL standards again plus a bit more.

See we're we are next month.
UTP.

anyway who are these supposed good sides anyway as many are saying this is a crap league. even if they do exist our style could upset them and we could end up winning those games more easily than against the sides some think will struggle. without the sendings off we could easily have up to 7 points more by playing football thats not easy on the eye.

I'd expect us to make the play offs if we're within a point at the start of March.
Not sure on what basis you can predict sub 3000 crowds for next season?

possibly if we only managed to repeat out last seasons final league position where enough is enough and they,ll wait to see if any improvements will be made before they come back. you can kick a dog too much before it will turn.

You seem to forget that Askey had a full summer to sort out his squad for last season and threw away a chunk of his budget on Wallace, Burton and Wreh. Pools are stuck with paying Wallace's wages for another season - and for that matter Dixon's and Onariase's, also Askey signings who have been transfer-listed since June with no takers!

And what about his loan signings and short-term deals after last season started? How good were Aghatise, Johnson, Agyemang, Mattock, Hancox and Brennan?

You say Phillips had nowt to do with signing Parkes and Waterfall - true, but he also had nowt to do with signing Khan and Senior, who were throught the door before he did a day's work at the Vic.

KP did sign Dickenson, Cooper and Oduroh, who were also crap, and re-signed Agyemang, who was at least the best of Askey's bad bunch of stand-ins.

I do wonder how much of the garbage Askey and Phillips signed was really down to Joe Monks? Sarll is on record as saying he knocks back a lot of Monks' suggestions - more power to his elbow for doing that as we can all see the difference in the quality of recruitment this season compared to last.

Askey and Phillips signed what they could and it was from the garbage tree. We seem to have had a bit of a brainwave this season and thought maybe we need to sign better players. This manager has a luxury of forwards no one else has had, and so far he has made the vast majority of attacking players look shite at times.

Fans forget askey had us top, this guy has us mid table, floundering against the poor teams of this league. He certainly is going to have up his game if he wants to see xmas out here. No doubting he talks a bloody good game, apart from 1 half at woking its been bloody terrible.

Askeys signings were hit and miss but as people have commented his budget was shite compared to Phillips and Sarll hence who we had to get

If we want to complain about Wallace and mani O (and I don’t
Mind mani O too much but agree Wallace was a failure) then how about some credit for mani D and Mancini ?

The goalkeepers I admit he got wrong but again our budget was shite

Askey had us playing decent football with a bunch of inherited shite before injuries to our 2 best players struck.
Having the likes of Lacey, Hastie Cooke, Crawford, Umerah, Patterson sucking up wages and dictating how we would have to play was a lot to deal with

Wouldn’t be a huge surprise if we were playing Truro next season, I know Askey
Has 2 more promotions on his CV than Sarll and Phillips combined at level 6 and above