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 Post subject: Mancini
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:10 pm 
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Starting I think we are starting to see the real " Machine Mancini " UTP

Another poster said he would play his strongest avaliable 11 and it looks that way. Sloggett on bench :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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hope he doesnt start on Monday in that case

Good to see Sloggett, shame no Madine .... I have a feeling Mani O may replace Mani D and get thrown up front for last 10 mins


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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Mancini and Stephenson should be hooked. Absolute gash


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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for who?

Nothing coming off for mancini first half I agree

I would sub off Sheron for Sloggett or Campbell--sad truth is our bench is so weak in terms of attacking subs its untrue

Wealdstone have us twigged and picking up all the 2nd balls


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:58 pm 
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Stephenson has been off all game, The goal just highlighted.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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Freeman for Stephenson and Sloggett for Mancini


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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dykey wrote:
Freeman for Stephenson and Sloggett for Mancini


Campbell not Mancini

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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:20 pm 
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Is Mancini overated?


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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Mancini now hooked. Also Hunter. Replaced by Sloggett and Robinson

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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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Can everyone who told me I was flapping about squad depth let me know how many fwds we have on the bench to help chase the game


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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Because they are clueless


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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lol

Sarll is the luckiest manager we have had in years...totally undeserved equalizer


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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loyal_fan wrote:
Can everyone who told me I was flapping about squad depth let me know how many fwds we have on the bench to help chase the game


You were concerned like the majority.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:50 am 
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Grayhoundend wrote:
Stephenson has been off all game, The goal just highlighted.

he is still a young lad and we have to accept that these things happen. he had a nightmare at oldham also last season but two bad games out of the number he has played isn,t bad for a lad who is only starting because dodds is injured. it isn,t just young players who have a nightmare and give a goal away, plenty of experianced lad also do but he,ll be made a scapegoat.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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loyal_fan wrote:
lol

Sarll is the luckiest manager we have had in years...totally undeserved equalizer

is that over 90 plus minutes or the timing of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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Totally undeserved opener for them?
We had a handful of shots on target they had the goal and 1 cross/shot which Dixon saved comfortably so undeserved?


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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loyal_fan wrote:
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Sarll is the luckiest manager we have had in years...totally undeserved equalizer


Just like Crawley's undeserved winner Lge2, Remember.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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PTID wrote:
Totally undeserved opener for them?
We had a handful of shots on target they had the goal and 1 cross/shot which Dixon saved comfortably so undeserved?


They dominated us for half hour so it wasnt really against the run of play or undeserved eventually we or other teams will make a mistake if you are given all the ball. It was a terrible mistake kids on the local field wouldnt of been that naieve, he needed hauling off for that one.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
PTID wrote:
Totally undeserved opener for them?
We had a handful of shots on target they had the goal and 1 cross/shot which Dixon saved comfortably so undeserved?


They dominated us for half hour so it wasnt really against the run of play or undeserved eventually we or other teams will make a mistake if you are given all the ball. It was a terrible mistake kids on the local field wouldnt of been that naieve, he needed hauling off for that one.

lets just shout it from the rooftops to kill the lads career off before it really gets going. i,d guess now there has been worse defending errors in our two periods in non league.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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They were the better side in the first half but you they created virtually nothing for Dixon to deal with, as I said the 1 cross/shot being the only real work he had to deal with after we created their goal scoring opportunity.
We had more shots, more shots on target and scored the same amount of goals as them. How can theirs from a mistake be deserved but ours from a hopeful punt not be?


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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Don't think the mistake will harm his career at all regardless of how much it's debated on here. If anything he should learn from it and be stronger next time and in future.
Biggest mistake imo was Sarlls tactics, hopefully he learns from that and we come back stronger tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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accrington fan wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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Totally undeserved opener for them?
We had a handful of shots on target they had the goal and 1 cross/shot which Dixon saved comfortably so undeserved?


They dominated us for half hour so it wasnt really against the run of play or undeserved eventually we or other teams will make a mistake if you are given all the ball. It was a terrible mistake kids on the local field wouldnt of been that naieve, he needed hauling off for that one.

lets just shout it from the rooftops to kill the lads career off before it really gets going. i,d guess now there has been worse defending errors in our two periods in non league.


It was the manager that hauled him off not me. I think everyone who had eyes saw what a dreadful mistake it was. Needs to learn from it. Lads his age have missed penalties in world cup finals i hardly think that mistake yday will kill his career.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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PTID wrote:
They were the better side in the first half but you they created virtually nothing for Dixon to deal with, as I said the 1 cross/shot being the only real work he had to deal with after we created their goal scoring opportunity.
We had more shots, more shots on target and scored the same amount of goals as them. How can theirs from a mistake be deserved but ours from a hopeful punt not be?


We do appear to have totally cut out opposition chances, but come on ptid that was a lucky result yday and tuesday when they hit the post twice in last min was lucky for us. Long may our luck continue but we all know pools dont get much, it will soon run out.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:01 pm 
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Stephenson has loads of potential but he struggled at times down at Tamworth and again yesterday. No surprise that he was hooked at half-time as Freeman was obviously brought in as cover for Dan Dodds while he's out injured. Stevo will get plenty of chances from the bench, where his pace and enthusiasm can do some damage late on.

The future outlook for Campbell and Mancini is less certain. Campbell didn't pass up the chance to play in League One to get subbed at half-time in the NL. I think there could be a big falling out there as Campgell may feel he's being set up to fail by the system Sarll plays. Fergie isn't getting foward anywhere near as much as he's done in previous seasons and Mani spends all his time with his back to goal contesting headers, so who is Campbell supposed to play with/off?

It was similar for Mancini on the right. Early on last season when he looked different class he had Seaman and Dodds bombing forward with him at every opportunity and they were all on the same wavelength. A couple of times yesterday Mancini did little lay offs that other players were meant to run on to but they didn't see the space the way he did.

I doubt there'll be a bust up between Sarll and "Anthony" as he loves playing and will try to do whatever the manager asks of him, but I can't see him starting many games.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
PTID wrote:
They were the better side in the first half but you they created virtually nothing for Dixon to deal with, as I said the 1 cross/shot being the only real work he had to deal with after we created their goal scoring opportunity.
We had more shots, more shots on target and scored the same amount of goals as them. How can theirs from a mistake be deserved but ours from a hopeful punt not be?


We do appear to have totally cut out opposition chances, but come on ptid that was a lucky result yday and tuesday when they hit the post twice in last min was lucky for us. Long may our luck continue but we all know pools dont get much, it will soon run out.

thought actually tamworth created more half chance than we did even before the woodwork came to our rescue. if that hadn,t been a pools game i,d have turned it off by half time as it was 90 odd minutes of anti or none football rather than the attempt to play the beautiful game.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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accrington fan wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
PTID wrote:
They were the better side in the first half but you they created virtually nothing for Dixon to deal with, as I said the 1 cross/shot being the only real work he had to deal with after we created their goal scoring opportunity.
We had more shots, more shots on target and scored the same amount of goals as them. How can theirs from a mistake be deserved but ours from a hopeful punt not be?


We do appear to have totally cut out opposition chances, but come on ptid that was a lucky result yday and tuesday when they hit the post twice in last min was lucky for us. Long may our luck continue but we all know pools dont get much, it will soon run out.

thought actually tamworth created more half chance than we did even before the woodwork came to our rescue. if that hadn,t been a pools game i,d have turned it off by half time as it was 90 odd minutes of anti or none football rather than the attempt to play the beautiful game.


If it was an all action exciting up and at them long ball boot then so be it, but it isnt its tedious. Cyril knowles used to get us to boot the ball long but it was pretty exciting at times.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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thought actually tamworth created more half chance than we did even before the woodwork came to our rescue. if that hadn,t been a pools game i,d have turned it off by half time as it was 90 odd minutes of anti or none football rather than the attempt to play the beautiful game.


If it was an all action exciting up and at them long ball boot then so be it, but it isnt its tedious. Cyril knowles used to get us to boot the ball long but it was pretty exciting at times.

there is nothing better to witness in a game than a long pass direct to a player or a pre planned one to use the space behind defenders. or a defender finding row z or in tamworths case row d in a clearance. however that wasn,t happening but just an aimless boot up field that gives ammunition for those who like tippy tappy football and getting an erection on hearing the possesion stats in their teams favour.


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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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thought actually tamworth created more half chance than we did even before the woodwork came to our rescue. if that hadn,t been a pools game i,d have turned it off by half time as it was 90 odd minutes of anti or none football rather than the attempt to play the beautiful game.


If it was an all action exciting up and at them long ball boot then so be it, but it isnt its tedious. Cyril knowles used to get us to boot the ball long but it was pretty exciting at times.

there is nothing better to witness in a game than a long pass direct to a player or a pre planned one to use the space behind defenders. or a defender finding row z or in tamworths case row d in a clearance. however that wasn,t happening but just an aimless boot up field that gives ammunition for those who like tippy tappy football and getting an erection on hearing the possesion stats in their teams favour.

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 Post subject: Re: Mancini
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If our goal had come in the 58th minute nobody would be calling it lucky. There defender momentarily went to sleep allowing Mani to win the ball and bring it under control then a very nice finish.
How many shots did we have on target and how many did they have?


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PTID wrote:
If our goal had come in the 58th minute nobody would be calling it lucky. There defender momentarily went to sleep allowing Mani to win the ball and bring it under control then a very nice finish.
How many shots did we have on target and how many did they have?


If :lol:


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PTID wrote:
If our goal had come in the 58th minute nobody would be calling it lucky. There defender momentarily went to sleep allowing Mani to win the ball and bring it under control then a very nice finish.
How many shots did we have on target and how many did they have?


Trying to pretend Pools were on top at any point in yesterday's game other than the last 10 minutes is delusional :roll: We didn't score in the 58th minute because we were doing feck all in the 58th minute.


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Nobody's trying to pretend anything, we played a little spell of football down our left in the 2nd half and looked decent but quickly reverted back to the goofball. But for all they passed the ball better than us they created less than us is what I'm saying and the stats will confirm that.
The game was worse than the Southend one and frankly one of the worst I've seen in nearly 60 years of going to the Vic.


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Nobody's trying to pretend anything, we played a little spell of football down our left in the 2nd half and looked decent but quickly reverted back to the goofball. But for all they passed the ball better than us they created less than us is what I'm saying and the stats will confirm that.
The game was worse than the Southend one and frankly one of the worst I've seen in nearly 60 years of going to the Vic.


Thats the problem we have while we pick up results people will sort of put up with awful games but draws against wealdstone or defeats at woking and fans wont. Sarl is in a tricky situation he was probobly a min away from getting a bit of stick yday.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
PTID wrote:
Nobody's trying to pretend anything, we played a little spell of football down our left in the 2nd half and looked decent but quickly reverted back to the goofball. But for all they passed the ball better than us they created less than us is what I'm saying and the stats will confirm that.
The game was worse than the Southend one and frankly one of the worst I've seen in nearly 60 years of going to the Vic.


Thats the problem we have while we pick up results people will sort of put up with awful games but draws against wealdstone or defeats at woking and fans wont. Sarl is in a tricky situation he was probobly a min away from getting a bit of stick yday.


What scares me is the absolute lack of options on the bench at the minute and his over reliance on physicality

Sheron seems to be so far a poorer version of Hunter , not sure how we pass and move with both of them there without a 3rd who can play a bit, maybe that is SLoggett?


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loyal_fan wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
PTID wrote:
Nobody's trying to pretend anything, we played a little spell of football down our left in the 2nd half and looked decent but quickly reverted back to the goofball. But for all they passed the ball better than us they created less than us is what I'm saying and the stats will confirm that.
The game was worse than the Southend one and frankly one of the worst I've seen in nearly 60 years of going to the Vic.


Thats the problem we have while we pick up results people will sort of put up with awful games but draws against wealdstone or defeats at woking and fans wont. Sarl is in a tricky situation he was probobly a min away from getting a bit of stick yday.


What scares me is the absolute lack of options on the bench at the minute and his over reliance on physicality

Sheron seems to be so far a poorer version of Hunter , not sure how we pass and move with both of them there without a 3rd who can play a bit, maybe that is SLoggett?


Unfortunately pace and lack of movement are killing the midfield a bit, we are a sit in team and hope to get that 1 chance. Great when it works dire when it doesnt. We might as well play the best teams in the league at the minute, because we are just giving poor teams a gee up by being so negative.


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It was morbidly fascinating to watch the first half
Like a lower league team in a cup match--ball gets punted up, ball gest lost Wealdstone play a bit and try and create something (fortunately they were shite)--We get the ball again and less than 3 seconds later we have punted it back to them and we start again

this is Wealdstone here--where our managers plan was big punt up and hope to get something from a mistake/some chaos--it's not like we tried to play and struggled or played poorly--with the ball we did precisely as we were instructed by the manager !


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loyal_fan wrote:
It was morbidly fascinating to watch the first half
Like a lower league team in a cup match--ball gets punted up, ball gest lost Wealdstone play a bit and try and create something (fortunately they were shite)--We get the ball again and less than 3 seconds later we have punted it back to them and we start again

this is Wealdstone here--where our managers plan was big punt up and hope to get something from a mistake/some chaos--it's not like we tried to play and struggled or played poorly--with the ball we did precisely as we were instructed by the manager !


If Sarly sticks with this method.
Then ya need both MannyD n Madine on the pitch together.

But we all good managers on here.
I'd say Billy comes across as the best Bunker manager. bbolt
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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Sheron seems to be so far a poorer version of Hunter , not sure how we pass and move with both of them there without a 3rd who can play a bit, maybe that is SLoggett?


Unfortunately pace and lack of movement are killing the midfield a bit, we are a sit in team and hope to get that 1 chance. Great when it works dire when it doesnt. We might as well play the best teams in the league at the minute, because we are just giving poor teams a gee up by being so negative.

sheron and hunter are fine together in away games but not at home where we need to see a more natural attacking midfielder, especially out wide, playing.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
It was morbidly fascinating to watch the first half
Like a lower league team in a cup match--ball gets punted up, ball gest lost Wealdstone play a bit and try and create something (fortunately they were shite)--We get the ball again and less than 3 seconds later we have punted it back to them and we start again

this is Wealdstone here--where our managers plan was big punt up and hope to get something from a mistake/some chaos--it's not like we tried to play and struggled or played poorly--with the ball we did precisely as we were instructed by the manager !


If Sarly sticks with this method.
Then ya need both MannyD n Madine on the pitch together.

But we all good managers on here.
I'd say Billy comes across as the best Bunker manager. bbolt
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and where will the extra goals come from in open play even if both win all the headers in the middle of the pitch for defenders and keepers to mop up. Lets go all tamworth and sign someone who can throw the ball easily to the back post and make that our most dangerous tactic.


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Lets go all tamworth and sign someone who can throw the ball easily to the back post and make that our most dangerous tactic.


Hmmm. If he could play a bit as well... Genius suggestion! :lol:


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