They have a track record for buying old buildings up and restoring them and experienced a few around the country into the bargain.
Any chance of them buying up the Staincliffe, because passing it every day and watching it being left to rot is a crying shame.

wrong position in the town for it especially with having another in a better position already.

Sort the Odeon out!

This was suggested on a thread about the Staincliffe not so long ago but our resident expert on Seaton Carew dismissed it as not viable due to not enough footfall I believe.
Over to you Jamie.

the place is a bit out on the limb even for seaton and i would have no interest in opening the place in the position its in unless its for something like flats and nothing to do with leisure.

yes, with a wrecking ball before a mystery fire takes place in a building thats gone too far from its glory.

Probably get done out for the Boaties Clan.
Anyone see that African Beach Party last week at Southend.

That will be Seaton in about 3 years time.

Now that Spoons know that there is no interest from you, mr Accy, it might just swing the deal in their favour and inspire a bid.

said i,d be a world reformer one day.

Wetherspoons do hotels now adjoining their pubs.
It’s not out on a limb, because if that was the case any pub out in stick's would fail.
Plenty of foot fall there and cars to boot…the Marine does a good trade 300 yds down the road…it’s all about management and selling you product and in that respect the Staincliffe has suffered over the past decade..
As for the Odeon, save the two frieze’s above the doors and flatten it,
Driving into town down Raby Road with the vegetation in abundance it looks like Jurassic Park twinned with The Hanging Gardens of Babylon…what an embarrassment.

What about all of them bastads who take up all the best seats up in spoons and who are back and forth up and down all lunch time for the unlimited coffee refills..can't a bloke just enjoy his pint.

Late news that Kevin, The Vikings beat everyone to it.

As mentioned before I worked on The Tanners Hall in Darlington, it was an old furniture shop, their policy used to near a Yates pub and in town centres. Informative interview from a couple of weeks ago with Tim Martin the founder of Wetherspoons.
https://youtu.be/vHoorU0JpEE?si=WumnixPo9Xz_Ls6t

I lived on 2 estates round the corner from the Staincliffe, first time for 5 years then later on for 15 years, footfall was non existent. The Schooner never was a success either, various tenants tried different themes but after the original owner Roy Hugill I think his name was who built it sold it to a brewery no tenant could make it pay as they had to buy the beer from them. Both surrounded by young house owning family estates with people with no spare cash to go to the pub with.
To bring the Staincliffe up today’s standards to what people expect, en suite bedrooms etc would mean taking it back to a shell and rebuilding all the interior costing an absolute fortune, cheaper to build a new hotel which Hartlepool actually needs not another block of flats.

Always popular when we were round there, the anew Year Zparty was always a corker…if you got a ticket.it’s all down to management.
Some pubs change the chef and their custom disappears. We used to go in the Woodcutter after tea where the middle room was busy 2 or 3 times a week …then someone thought it would be a good idea to Knock it all into one for events, but it killed it off dead and lost it’s regular customers.
A pub with a good management in will succeed if they give the customers something they want.
I wouldn’t advise a pub on Longscar Rocks Jamie…although the dippers might pop in.

in the leisure industry as a whole the ones who succeed do that. the ones who fail are the ones who the owners give the customers what they actually want and expect customers to follow suit.

When they talk about the hospitality industry, I suspect some owners/managers don’t have a clue about the meaning of the word.
Four of us were in a certain pub out of town and ordered food and all ordered Orange and water to drink……five minutes later the owner comes over and said “We’re a pub, we serve alcohol y’know”….told him we were driving and he rolled his eyes..the drinks never came and just before the food arrived we all walked out.
That’s how you lose customers, …and money. He was gone from there a few months later, which came as no surprise to anyone.

The Grange pub would be ideal for Spoons or the Barclays bank (recently closed) in York Road.

The picture playhouse in Bexhill is my favourite..smoker friendly on the rooftop, and no fecker in the town knows me. .Thank You Tim!!

Folkestone has a canny one too.

My favourites are Henley and Tewkesbury. Both beer gardens are excellent. Doing both in the next six weeks.

I'd love wetherspoons to get the Grange and turn it back to what it was, it was a great pub. The people who took it over absolutely destroyed it.

Down Tewkesbury last year, really like the place.

The Schooner did well initially, around 20 years ago I know the lease exchanged hands for £250K as it was a business that made a profit.

It continued to be profitable for a period beyond that, but not many years. It was simply too big and the chains could undercut too easily with their purchasing power.

As you correctly say the owner was a brewery and The Schooner was tied in, which was a killer at times.

The Schooner is now split into the flat upstairs and 5-6 tenanted units. A shop, foot/nail place, hairdressers, sports bar and pub - this model evidently works now.

The Staincliffe is also too big, and hasn't been viable for a long time. The costs for upkeep and renovation are astronomical. It needs to go the way of the Schooner and be broken down, but given the competition of small shops, hairdressers or micro pubs, it may only be suitable for flats or apartments, given the fantastic views.

It’s all theoretical anyway, just a shame..Never said it could be changed, just sad such a fine building has been left to rot….rather like Tunstall Court.
Doubtless in the name of ‘progress’ we’ll end up with Executive sea view apartments and the bulldozer of banal development revving up in wretched anticipation.

Wetherspoons sold The King John to a Middlesbrough company a few years back, rumours were they weren’t prepared to pay the high business rates who have now put it on the market.
I couldn’t see them opening another in the town, they still have Lloyds, when The King John opened it was very busy more so on Friday and Saturday nights then business went possibly because of the Marina, would that be the ideal place for Wetherspoons pub ?

The Marina is ruined now by the parking fiasco…used to go to pick up a sandwich at a certain establishment and you have 15 mins to get in , get your order and get out…before the camera sends you a fine…..even trying to buy a ticket to park is a bloody fart about, easier to avoid it.

The whole town centre has been ruined with parking charges and surrounding streets requiring Parking Permits, does the income from these actually cover the cost of paying the Traffic Wardens salaries, it will be a close call. I believe the Council have this idea that restricting parking will encourage people to use public but not realising people will go places where there is free parking.

Driving through Seaton last week with the wife and asked if I wanted to pull-up for an ice cream, then realised there’s a £1.50 parking charge on top to pay so we didn’t bother.
They brought parking charges in at Seaton under the Akers Belchers on the supposition the money would be spent on the roads at Seaton and car parking…the money paid for that and the machines, but they’ve done nowt since with the money, so basically they charged you to pay for the equipment to charge you…. , ever feel you ‘ve been shafted

Should of gone to the chippy to make it worthwhile and chilled out on the seafront.
Like me n Mrs Gloves did the other week.
The chips n fish was huge.
Almost like eating a baby Dolphin.
Well recommended the chippy on the East Side of main road.

The money from car parking charges which the council impose is supposed to go to maintain the roads but it is just a cash cow to balance the books.

A lot of the traffic has moved over the Headland…that’ll be next.

yes and dog walkers have moved from seaton to spots where parking is free. used to stop off there on my way up but its either the blue lagoon or the headland now.

I dont go there for the reason you have given........its bonkers

Yes a great way to kill businesses

Wife has family on Marine Drive and it’s an absolute nightmare for parking.
There’s a turning circle at the top with double yellow lines but ignorant twats just park up at daft angles and are as selfish as hell, not giving a toss about the trouble they cause.

Can’t Raj turn it into a carehome ?

That’s been tried already at Pools for the last few seasons.

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