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 Post subject: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:37 am 
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With his first 2 signings in the bag we are starting to get an idea of the man’s playing style. So he is a summary. Wants his teams to play high tempo, energy from the off to impose their authority. Expects high level of fitness as expects his players to play a high line. Expects players to retrieve the ball back asap and then keep the ball as much as possible whilst distributing the ball intelligently. Likes attacking wide players. Likes his team to run and win tackles. Uses lots of statistical data for analysis and planning. Hates losing, honest and straight to the point with his players.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:22 am 
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Are the players good enough to do this?

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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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hardly revolutionary thinking as there are 4,000 turning up at the vic wanting the same. does that make us all tactical geniuses.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:08 am 
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As always, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. His ‘mindset and philosophy’ didn’t save his job last season. It’s a results business.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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Well the tippy tappy keeping possession in our own half hasn't worked for the last couple of seasons has it?
Let's hope his team can walk the walk, easy to talk a good game.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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PTID wrote:
Well the tippy tappy keeping possession in our own half hasn't worked for the last couple of seasons has it?
Let's hope his team can walk the walk, easy to talk a good game.

add keepers taking a short goal kick to that to start the tippy tappy crab football that more than pools did last season that always ends up with someone lumping the ball forwards in just hope. they call it playing out from the back but basically its having more passes till someone just bangs it forward anyway that the keeper could have done at the outset. its fashion over substance and if a premier club wins the double playing the old way or even england everyone will follow in the same way as if they have to do it no matter what players are available in the side.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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accrington fan wrote:
hardly revolutionary thinking as there are 4,000 turning up at the vic wanting the same. does that make us all tactical geniuses.


Yes it Does, And of course as everyone the knows the “BUNKER” is the font of all knowledge.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:25 am 
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Grayhoundend wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
hardly revolutionary thinking as there are 4,000 turning up at the vic wanting the same. does that make us all tactical geniuses.


Yes it Does, And of course as everyone the knows the “BUNKER” is the font of all knowledge.


You of course are right Mr GrAy.

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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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Can boot the ball 5 miles in the air all game as long as we win promotion. The mind numbing tippy tappy shit that we play has not worked. Even man city bore me with it and they are bloody experts at it.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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When it’s done well it’s great , look at Gateshead but you need the right players to do it


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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loyal_fan wrote:
When it’s done well it’s great , look at Gateshead but you need the right players to do it


Use the right tactics against it, It fails. Ask Pep


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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Grayhoundend wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
When it’s done well it’s great , look at Gateshead but you need the right players to do it


Use the right tactics against it, It fails. Ask Pep


Man City have won the premiership 4 years running, Pep has also won the league in Germany & Spain using the same tactics. Pep's style of playing is hardly a failure!!


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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All well and good when you've got 11 players on the pitch who are all technically good footballers and well drilled into what the coach expects of them.
As you go down the football ladder even starting just outside the top 4 or 5 it's less effective as the players are not good enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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poolie1966 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
When it’s done well it’s great , look at Gateshead but you need the right players to do it


Use the right tactics against it, It fails. Ask Pep


Man City have won the premiership 4 years running, Pep has also won the league in Germany & Spain using the same tactics. Pep's style of playing is hardly a failure!!


Thats because they have mainly been against lesser teams(not all), Oppo Tactically wiser now.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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harrogatepoolie wrote:
With his first 2 signings in the bag we are starting to get an idea of the man’s playing style. So he is a summary. Wants his teams to play high tempo, energy from the off to impose their authority. Expects high level of fitness as expects his players to play a high line. Expects players to retrieve the ball back asap and then keep the ball as much as possible whilst distributing the ball intelligently. Likes attacking wide players. Likes his team to run and win tackles. Uses lots of statistical data for analysis and planning. Hates losing, honest and straight to the point with his players.



Where did you get this info from? I was told he sets up direct from the back and plays to press from the front with high energy. I see us being counter attacked and the players being run ragged by November. Hope im wrong and it works out. We deserve something positive to happen.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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PTID wrote:
All well and good when you've got 11 players on the pitch who are all technically good footballers and well drilled into what the coach expects of them.
As you go down the football ladder even starting just outside the top 4 or 5 it's less effective as the players are not good enough.

if pools could sign any player they wanted in the world to play a certain style like man city can we,d be unstoppable. pep could be replaced tomorrow with a john beck type of manager who,d sign players to play another way and bring success to the club. there is more than one way to play the game its finding or using the players to their best ability and not force some style of play onto them.


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 Post subject: Re: Darren Sarl mindset and philosophy
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accrington fan wrote:
PTID wrote:
All well and good when you've got 11 players on the pitch who are all technically good footballers and well drilled into what the coach expects of them.
As you go down the football ladder even starting just outside the top 4 or 5 it's less effective as the players are not good enough.

if pools could sign any player they wanted in the world to play a certain style like man city can we,d be unstoppable. pep could be replaced tomorrow with a john beck type of manager who,d sign players to play another way and bring success to the club. there is more than one way to play the game its finding or using the players to their best ability and not force some style of play onto them.


Exactly.

If you have NO planB it shows up a managers inabilities.


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