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Crawford, Cooke and Umerah gone

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Cooke and Umerah where always certain to go, Crawford is slightly surprising.

Dixon and Onariase transfer listed too.


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Right who pinched me thread :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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Probobly one of the best retained lists for years.


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Cooke and Umerah where always certain to go, Crawford is slightly surprising.

Dixon and Onariase transfer listed too.


The two transfer listed should be able to get fixed up. Now let's see who we bring in.
Only two offered new deals, Fergie and Feaths. I fancy a few eye brows will be raised but I suppose it depends on what sort of deals and whether anyone else fancies taking them on.

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Even better if fev turns us down


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Right who pinched me thread :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It took me a while to copy and paste the link. :evil: :laugh:

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Right who pinched me thread :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


It was me mate, just tidying up. No offence. therethere :laugh:

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It was mentioned the other week Hastie was contracted to 2025 fortunately not, a big wage earner of the books.


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Obviously the proof in the pudding is who we bring in to replace these but overall very happy with this
I wouldn’t give feather a contract but there is an argument for it with experience/continuity etc
Getting rid of Crawford umerah and cooke hopefully suggests the days of accepting who we have are over

Think Mani O a touch unlucky but may want to move back down South


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Also good to see Mancini and dodds extended with no fuss
Scope to bring in around 8-10 playersc think we may see Hendrie again next season and perhaps Aygemang


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Must be record majority happy. Even Billi P.


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Wouldn’t argue with any of that to be honest.


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Well let's see now. What do we need. I'll start with a goalie, maybe a decent loanee.

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Johnjo1 wrote:
Must be record majority happy. Even Billi P.


I say it how i see. If it looks good will say if things look shit i will say unlike a few who darent criticise.


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Fergy been very lucky.
Major Redemption owed to the club n fans.

Now let's replace the binned players with better players instead of the usual same shit for shit.

Ya were expecting a lot worse than that.
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Wouldn’t argue with any of that to be honest.


Me nither. Doubt there'll be any takers for Dixon.


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derwent wrote:
Well let's see now. What do we need. I'll start with a goalie, maybe a decent loanee.


2 rapid wingers to service our awesome front line if they both still here in August.
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That’s the Hartley collection finally gone.
Featherstone is a puzzler, but I wasn’t bothered either way he goes he goes, he stays he stays.
I like it, but thought Crawford might have got the shout over Ferguson, but again there’s plenty of players out there. We can do better.

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So some of the big earners have gone (apparently rumoured) let see what quality we get in or will it be like Hartley and Harrison Quantity....? I'm shocked with some names on the list.


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Never understood the Featherstone hatred.

Every manager who has been here at the same time as Featherstone (and there are PLENTY) has played him.

They can't all be wrong.


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Would have binned feather and not listed Mani O but overall can’t complain

Reckon we may be seeing a few of the releases against us next season


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Never understood the Featherstone hatred.

Every manager who has been here at the same time as Featherstone (and there are PLENTY) has played him.

They can't all be wrong.


Spot on Shilts :wink: I am happy he got another offer. Said all along he has a big part to play if we are to be successful next season. :wink:


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I would have been tempted to go full clean sweep and get rid of Featherstone and Ferguson, but other than that can't complain too much.


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Not happy with Umerah and Crawford being shown the door but no argument with the rest.


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Umerah out injured most of season and only scored 2 goals, I would have got shot of Ferguson and bring in a new left back too open on that side of defence, Mancini option taken up just hope he can remain injury free.


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Josh Umerah, Manni D and Joe Grey would have been interesting if playing together with Mancini driving from behind. Also interesting would be to know who actually drew up this retained list?


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Other than fevs potentially staying, happy that we have room to hopefully revamp our ineffective midfield.


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I'm guessing Umerah would've been on a substantial wage.

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derwent wrote:
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Right who pinched me thread :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


It was me mate, just tidying up. No offence. therethere :laugh:


Cheers, Thats what i thought.
Think a few of mine have tidied up in the past. :laugh:


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derwent wrote:
Well let's see now. What do we need. I'll start with a goalie, maybe a decent loanee.


Think it may well be the Woking keeper myself , Will Jaaskeleinen contract up, but has been offered a deal.


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ToTheHartlepool2-0 wrote:
Josh Umerah, Manni D and Joe Grey would have been interesting if playing together with Mancini driving from behind. Also interesting would be to know who actually drew up this retained list?


According to Sarll on Tees interview, Took advice but decision was his.
He spoke to the players himself.


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derwent wrote:
Well let's see now. What do we need. I'll start with a goalie, maybe a decent loanee.


Think it may well be the Woking keeper myself , Will Jaaskeleinen contract up, but has been offered a deal.


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Can't believe this is the work of the three stooges, presumably back room staff decisions, maybe even Phillips unwittingly. If Sarll made decision, would have had to listen to backroom staff or watch a shit load of videos.

Is Sweeney still involved? Heard possibly going, can't believe the stooges and Sarll would do that.


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Can't believe this is the work of the three stooges, presumably back room staff decisions, maybe even Phillips unwittingly. If Sarll made decision, would have had to listen to backroom staff or watch a shit load of videos.

Is Sweeney still involved? Heard possibly going, can't believe the stooges and Sarll would do that.



He has said himself on tees he took advice and spoke to the players himself

Your flogging a dead horse, it's happened we move on


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I see Wallace is staying. I know he is under contract but could have been transfer listed with Dixon and Mann O. Maybe Sarll rates him?


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
I see Wallace is staying. I know he is under contract but could have been transfer listed with Dixon and Mann O. Maybe Sarll rates him?


Agree with you Ozzy :wink: I was disappointed he was not transfer listed. :roll:


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Can't really argue with anything, think the only surprise for me is Crawford, not that I'm particularly disappointed he going just I expected a new offer coming. Pleased there is plenty of scope to refresh the squad. Cooke probably the best player leaving and with runners about him he is a clever player with a good eye for a pass, unfortunately we never saw it often enough. Hopefully Dixon goes and I can't say I'm bothered about Manny O either, surely better options out there.


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Leggie43 wrote:
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I see Wallace is staying. I know he is under contract but could have been transfer listed with Dixon and Mann O. Maybe Sarll rates him?


Agree with you Ozzy :wink: I was disappointed he was not transfer listed. :roll:



Given he is injured and likely not going to be fit for the start of next season wouldn’t be much point transfer listing him


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What has happened to the young goalkeeper, Mafzari, no mention of him on the list.

Still playing for Shildon in their play offs later this week so maybe after that but he isn't entered anywhere. When he joined Shildon they never mentioned it either! Shildon said he was on loan to them in February.

Good list though.


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Not happy with Umerah and Crawford being shown the door but no argument with the rest.

Umerah has had bad body language since the end of last season.
No surprise at all ….. definitely not the player he was for most of last season.

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Singhsong wrote:
Can't believe this is the work of the three stooges, presumably back room staff decisions, maybe even Phillips unwittingly. If Sarll made decision, would have had to listen to backroom staff or watch a shit load of videos.

Is Sweeney still involved? Heard possibly going, can't believe the stooges and Sarll would do that.


Have a listen to his interview on Radio Tees. In answer to a straight question about whether Sweeney is staying or not, Sarll umms and ahs quite a bit, says his priorty was sorting out the players first and he will be speaking to the other staff next.

So Tony, just carry on sweating - it's not like you're due any special consideration is it? Then again, he's probably got a pretty good idea what's coming.


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Leggie43 wrote:
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I see Wallace is staying. I know he is under contract but could have been transfer listed with Dixon and Mann O. Maybe Sarll rates him?


Agree with you Ozzy :wink: I was disappointed he was not transfer listed. :roll:



Given he is injured and likely not going to be fit for the start of next season wouldn’t be much point transfer listing him


Well just pay him off sctatchinghead A total waste of a wage that could be used on a much better player than he will ever be banghead


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That's a retained list thats actually cheered me up after a bit of a shit day at work.

As for Feaths and Fergie. Say what you like about them but in my opinion they're both more than decent players at this level, they rarely get injured and they always work their socks off (and if they have a bit of back up around them then they're well worth hanging on to).

I just hope the incomings are as positive as the outgoings.


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That's a retained list thats actually cheered me up after a bit of a shit day at work.

As for Feaths and Fergie. Say what you like about them but in my opinion they're both more than decent players at this level, they rarely get injured and they always work their socks off (and if they have a bit of back up around them then they're well worth hanging on to).

I just hope the incomings are as positive as the outgoings.



Agree :wink:


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Probobly one of the best retained lists for years.


I agree with that Mr Billy

I might have listed Wallace as well but think we have got the basis of a decent team there, assuming we have better luck with injuries and can keep most of them fit for the majority of the season.

I'd be tempted to offer Hendrie a deal and maybe Jameson and need to sign at least 5 quality midfielders including a couple of wingers.


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I would definitely offer Jameson a contract. :wink:


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I would definitely offer Jameson a contract. :wink:


Have Harrogate released him?


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Leggie43 wrote:
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I see Wallace is staying. I know he is under contract but could have been transfer listed with Dixon and Mann O. Maybe Sarll rates him?


Agree with you Ozzy :wink: I was disappointed he was not transfer listed. :roll:



Given he is injured and likely not going to be fit for the start of next season wouldn’t be much point transfer listing him


Well just pay him off sctatchinghead A total waste of a wage that could be used on a much better player than he will ever be banghead


The clue is in your first 4 words, if we pay him off we have still paid him, we are stuck with him unfortunately


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