Said we didn’t go for it until last 20mjns….that is really on him and the players he picked in midfield

Was fairly honest overall and gave credit to solihull

Hendrie out for season

Is getting a right back in this week….he’s certainly getting backed more than Askey ever did.

Think he should have started cooper instead of Wallace today for more energy in midfield. Those three can't play together, just not enough legs or energy. I'd love a player like Sbarra for Solihull or haughton from Fylde, someone who has energy and offers something a bit different but work really hard. Don't think we were really outplayed today though, it was basically down to us constantly giving away rotten goals and not making teams work hard enough to score past us, both their goals today were avoidable.

I think the lack of mobility and pace in midfield will always mean that we start slowly, as soon as some pace is injected into it we will beat most of these teams. I believe that we will win enough games to maintain positivity towards the end of this season and next season we will be flying. I don't see any reason to be even thinking about playoffs, we know this league is tough to get out of and next season is ours. If we have a fit and firing Mancini and a good summer for Dodd's we will be a problem for every team next season, don't get me wrong, if we scraped a playoff place this year I would take it but maybe some reflection on how bad it has been and a summer of getting it right is probably better and we start to look to how we do a chesterfield next year. Look who will be coming down, Sutton and forest green, there will be nobody to fear next season. PTID

Yep new recruitment in midfield a must but Phillips didn’t make the most of what he had available to him

Hopefully Wallace on a 1 year deal, hasn’t worked for him and once feather came back he was always surplus

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kieran- ... ler/183295


Hopefully Feaths is offered another year too.

Dear God no! Calling for more pace in midfield yet suggesting Fev gets another deal is utter madness.

Featherstone was shit 8 years ago. Another year is daylight robbery of a salary.

What are his 2 biggest achievements? Relegated with the same club twice and one National League Playoff final win. that's how bad he's been for us.

just mention his name and you,ll get a row at pools if you want whichever side of the camp you are in. think every team need a similar type of player as well as one like the two richyHpool mentioned. like all players he has had good and bad games but his ba ones tend to be nightmares. for me i,d love JP to sign a younger version for next season.

The facts dont lie.
8 years of shit??
If you say so.
You obviously know what you are talking about pal


Rank Player Apps Goals Position Career
1 Ritchie Humphreys 543 37 DF, MF 2001–2013
2 Watty Moore 472 3 DF 1948–1960
3 Antony Sweeney 444 62 MF 2001–2014
4 Ray Thompson 423 3 DF 1947–1958
5 Alan Goad 418 11 DF 1967–1978
6 Ken Johnson 413 106 FW 1949–1964
7 Nicky Featherstone 405 25 MF 2014–2023, 2023–
8 Brian Honour 384 36 MF 1985–1994
9 Micky Barron 374 4 DF 1996–2007
10 Gary Liddle 364 21 DF, MF 2006–2012, 2019–20, 2020–2022

What does this mean
How many of those players saw 2 relegations
How many of those players have won 2 promotions?

Don't see where your going with this one personally?

Actually judging a player based on whether he was in a promotion or relegation team to the point of counting them up.??
Yep.. that makes complete sense that does mate.
A very educated and sophisticated analysis from you...well done.
Cant make sense of the fact that Feaths is in the top ten of Pools all time greats ...and yet you insist he has been shit for 8 years.??
Where am I going with this one?
Haven't got the time it would take to explain that to someone as special to you.
Sorry.

ditto

When Featherstone has been available, every manager has consistently picked him. That's how shite he's been.

one thing he has done is split the fans down the middle every season he has been with us. do not think any on that list ever did that, and it was left to players with us a season or two who only managed to do this.

So from that list whereby it seems number of games played equates to how good a player is / was Fev is better than Brian Honour?
He's the only constant in a team that's been struggling for years, the only constant in a midfield that has been slow and ineffective for years. How does he rank against Tinkler, Stephenson, Pedersen, Beardsley, Miller, Sweeney, etc are they poorer players because they didn't play as many games?
Twisted logic indeed

Sorry
Featherstone is a lot better than
Joe Allen
Paul Dalton
Andrew Monkhouse
Joel Porter
Effion Williams
Adam Boyd
Paul Baker
Richie Barker
Paul Stephenson
Gordon Watson
Tommy Miller
James Sharp
Chris Westwood
Michael Nelson
Etc etc etc etc
All because he's in the all time listening for us.

All good players in their time, but for Fev and the rest his time is well and truly up. To even think of him being in our midfield ne t season fills me with despair.
Just a reminder, he left in the summer because he wouldn't accept the terms on offer and he was snapped up by er.........???? So good that nobody wanted him, says it all doesn't it?

In all honesty Featherstons position does not require Pace above the ability to read the game.
As we can all see from Parkes and Waterfall.

I with you on this.
Clearly we didn't realise that your only a great player if you make 300+ appearance for the club.
All those players above who I (you) loved watching in a Pools shirt playing footie, clearly are all crap. Featherstone is clearly Mr Hartlepool United, the Legend of the club should be cleaning Featherstone Boots...

Depends how much these clubs were willing to offer.

KP will have had his thoughts confirmed RE: Midfield yesterday.

Silver lining at least Senior will probably miss the game V Barnet.

think a lot of fans prefer the headless chicken types who run around and do nothing or chase loss causes but never actually arrive there in time. mind you managers can be as bad who get sucked in by those who are brilliant in training but do nothing when it matters in a match.

Come across players myself who were absolutly useless in training But the total oppoosite in a competitive game.

yes, and its training rather than the competitive games is why many retire because of whats expected of them in training. the saturday and tuesday games are the reason to play not training routines or the hated running.

So is Featherstones position that doesn't require pace, and if that's true what does it require - the ability to tackle, the heart to chase back, the vision to actually pass the ball forward, to get on the end of things and score goals (I'd guess more than his mighty tally of 22 in 10 years have been penalties), to protect the back line and to serve the forward line, are just a few that I can think of that are necessary but he doesn't possess.

It is interesting reading the contrasting views on a particular player when one assumes supporters have all watched the same game(s) and come to differing opinions.

Can the majority please, though, regard this Government as complete and utter SHITE and vote them out at the upcoming General Election.

REFORM are busting to give us all a decent pay rise.
Really struggling why it's Labour or the Cons

That's January Next year. Public will be board hearing from other parties and will forget to vote

Don,t really have the time to look up the positives, Think i,ll leave that to KP as he says the final decision is his.

KPG you are given a choice to vote for a Party, How many people in this country voted for shoerack.
There is god knows how many members of parliament, Yet you/me are only ALLOWED to vote for a party.

because its only in recent years that the leader of the party in power is regarded more like a president than a PM. many times in the past a party in power has changed their leader but with little comment about it.

And how is that going to be paid for, magic money tree, you forget Truss crashed the economy with her innovative budget leaving a £30 billion black hole.

This is a Thread about KP's post match comments, why does it always have to deviate away from the topic with this bloody forum and end up on Politics and others moaning at each other for none related footy gossip. FFS !

Back to the original eh....

KP made his first mistake in the Pools Dugout this weekend, he now will have realised that Feaths and Wallace and Cooke just does not and will not ever work ! Wallace is like a Cheap Feaths on a good day !
Feaths has had some really good games this season, almost rolling it back to when he probably had his best ever season in a Pools shirt under DC ! yes there will be times hes off the pace and probably outpaced etc (problem with his age). But this is his level and against the weaker teams he literally runs that midfield ! But if we are serious about getting out the league then yeh we need a younger faster version of him now ! Id still keep him as hes an excellent pro to have around the club and is a leader on and off the pitch (this alot of you wont know !).
Even when he came back this season our fortunes changed for a few games you cannot deny the lad is a quality CM on his day at this level !

Anyways we need an injection of pace through the middle of the park and id like to see more of Cooper for sure. Senior and Duffus must be the biggest pro footballing wage thiefs ive ever come across too. Mike Fondop even looks better !

Again we have suffered the gamble of the loan signing debacle once again. Really hoped Duffus was going to be something and Senior also expected a lot more from ! Id heard of him prior to coming to Pools aswell as im sure he was tipped for bigger things.

Next season is the one... we can see we are on the cusp of having something. We can beat 80% of the teams with a full strength side in this league we know ! given a few more really good players we should be top 3 easy next season.

The only way IMO that Featherstone should be here next season, is along side Ian McGuckin training the kids, learning his coaching badge.

I had high hopes Senior would do the business, he looked good at Bromley on the right. Fast, skillful and took on the fullback. Hopefully it was a day off for him, when he came on.

I think grehoundend posted in the wrong topic that’s how the post reverted to politics.

Now Now Jamie stop pointing fingers.

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Anyways we need an injection of pace through the middle of the park and id like to see more of Cooper for sure. Senior and Duffus must be the biggest pro footballing wage thiefs ive ever come across too. Mike Fondop even looks better !

Again we have suffered the gamble of the loan signing debacle once again. Really hoped Duffus was going to be something and Senior also expected a lot more from ! Id heard of him prior to coming to Pools aswell as im sure he was tipped for bigger things.

you have shown what a problem that could be created for those wanting wholesale clearouts at the end of a season. not all loan and permanent signings will come off, even the ones we were more excited about we have heard about previously. at least we have avoided no hope youth players recently.

As I have said before my theory is if you sign five or six free transfer/loan players you will probably get two or three success. To date imo the two central defenders have been a success and I’m unconvinced with the others to date.

Yep totally agree...

Kahn would of been a good addition had he not been injured ! Also still think there is more to come from Dickenson too.



You have to look at the performers this season in the bottom sides for me. There is Nick Haughton as someone else mentioned on another thread. The Winger who tore us a new one from them also ! Id love for us to bring some of them lads in who we know can do it at this level and have seen them do it for ourselves. Scored again at the weekend Haughton too cracking player. Even Kiddy are finding their rhythm and again have one or 2 players who can do a job. I suppose its picking the best of the bunch - given some wont be on big deals !

also Dinanga and other Heed players whom have stepped well upto the mark ! Given they are now doing better than us but if Heed can find these players then so should we !

interesting summer of clear out once again at Pools !

we only know about our unsuccesful signings though and because a player has a good game against us is no guarentee he is doing the job for them week in week out or with us if we signed them. signings are just a minefield but the better the manager the easier it seems to be to cross it.

That's probably because apart from Gary Liddle at the fag end of his career none of the others played when social media was so influential. And Richie Humphries wasn't exactly a universal fans favourite.

It'll be this autumn, after a budget bribe - they all do it.

And free bananas too?

At the end of the season Kev needs to count how many points we lost against the four relegated clubs, add them to our total and see where we could have finished if we could put weak teams to the sword!
It has been a serious failing of late that we struggle against poor sides and needs to be put right if a next season bid for promotion is to be achieved.

It's true we've been rank bad in games against the current bottom 4 this season - only 5 points taken from a possible 21!

Thinking about this, being doing my head in how people say he's excellent.
Why is it then, he has spent 5 years in the EFL and 5th year this year in National League with us?
While everyone else on that list, never got relegated to National League ever in the History of Hartlepool United, regardless of how bad we where in 50's, 60's 90's etc etc.
Granted Liddle played with us in the NL for a couple of seasons.

To be fair automatic relegation to Conference did not begin until 1987 and it rarely happened when it was voted upon. I believe Pools have the record for most re-elections so many of the players named could well have had a number of relagations on their records.

Fair point, duly noted..

Those 16 dropped points would put us up near the top of the league!

If we aspire to regain EFL status, I do not think that it is asking too much for the team to collect a bagful of points against teams heading for NLN/NLS.

Exactly