Should Askey go

harrogatepoolie · **Joined:** Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:35 pm **Posts:** 1126

I will go first - yes

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

Unless you put sweeney in charge whats the point? This lot would see off better managers than askey. Keep bringing in bargain basements and you end up in the basement.

harrogatepoolie · **Joined:** Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:35 pm **Posts:** 1126

This lot are so low they could be in Dovecot. If it wasn’t for Dixon it could have been 8-2 to Ebsfleet

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

Askey who doesnt like loans has had to resort to filling half the team with them, should tell us what we need to know about how bad things are.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7072

harrogatepoolie wrote:

I will go first - yes

Who you going to replace him with, Sweeney is part of the coaching staff so is just as bad, he must have say in the tactics, for me stick with Askey.

Stomper409 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:24 pm

fckpoolie · **Joined:** Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:56 pm **Posts:** 194

I'd put Sweeney in charge. Or my Mam - because she's got no football tactical nouse either - but at least she'll be cheaper. Seriously I desperately want to think that Askey is the answer - but I don't think he's got a frigging clue. He's had a week without a game to get organised but still he sends them out with no plan at all. Just absolute crap. How can we compete at this level with a defence that can't defend and a midfield who look like boy scouts? We were really lucky today to get a draw at home against a very poor Ebbsfleet.

Manni played well but apart from that - we're so awful that Jake Hastie coming on lifted us (credit to him).

And you know what. I'm pretty sure the next game's going to be the same.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

fckpoolie wrote:

I'd put Sweeney in charge. Or my Mam - because she's got no football tactical nouse either - but at least she'll be cheaper. Seriously I desperately want to think that Askey is the answer - but I don't think he's got a frigging clue. He's had a week without a game to get organised but still he sends them out with no plan at all. Just absolute crap. How can we compete at this level with a defence that can't defend and a midfield who look like boy scouts? We were really lucky today to get a draw at home against a very poor Ebbsfleet.

Manni played well but apart from that - we're so awful that Jake Hastie coming on lifted us (credit to him).

And you know what. I'm pretty sure the next game's going to be the same.

Jake hastie lifted us at barnet too he changed the game. Dorking beat us lost 6 nil to gateshead today. Chester beat us, probobly darlos worst team in their history have beaten them today. This is just the tip of the iceberg how bad were going to become if money is not invested in national league quality first 11 players. No matter who is in charge, we need some cash injection from somewhere.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8921

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Askey who doesnt like loans has had to resort to filling half the team with them, should tell us what we need to know about how bad things are.

Dont forget the free agents shite
.
What happened to this better budget than DC got when the STs were on sale.
Wonder if the old timer crew. still wanna carry on with this stupendous chairman n keep on licking his arse.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

Our budget is better than Ebbsfleet!

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

loyal_fan wrote:

Our budget is better than Ebbsfleet!

It might be? But we have no proof, for all we know they might be paying their players fortunes down south.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Askey who doesnt like loans has had to resort to filling half the team with them, should tell us what we need to know about how bad things are.

Dont forget the free agents shite
.
What happened to this better budget than DC got when the STs were on sale.
Wonder if the old timer crew. still wanna carry on with this stupendous chairman n keep on licking his arse.

Lets be honest he said keith curle was a better manager than challinor, id take what he says with a pinch of salt. Until someone comes in were shafted either way.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Our defensive frailties have been with us a lot longer than Askey has. He has done absolutely nothing to change that. By his own admission he can't get his players to follow what he wants then to do.
Any manager in any walk of life who finds himself in that situation has the glare of spotlights on his results.
Everything, according to the whingers, is Raj's fault because, according to them, Raj hasn't a clue.
Raj has backed the manager and has said he has every confidence in him but no criticism of that decision from the whingers. The reason for that seems strange but when one considers that keeping Askey suits the whingers agenda because they know that Askey is struggling but want to keep him to fulfil their doom and gloom prophesies.

thedno · **Posted:** Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:37 pm

harrogatepoolie wrote:

I will go first - yes

No

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

No but he has gone down in
My estimation big time

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:39 pm

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

derwent wrote:

Our defensive frailties have been with us a lot longer than Askey has. He has done absolutely nothing to change that. By his own admission he can't get his players to follow what he wants then to do.
Any manager in any walk of life who finds himself in that situation has the glare of spotlights on his results.
Everything, according to the whingers, is Raj's fault because, according to them, Raj hasn't a clue.
Raj has backed the manager and has said he has every confidence in him but no criticism of that decision from the whingers. The reason for that seems strange but when one considers that keeping Askey suits the whingers agenda because they know that Askey is struggling but want to keep him to fulfil their doom and gloom prophesies.

What an utter load of cobblers, no manager will be succesful here now, even challinor was struggling, couldnt win away, having to sign mike fondop, what a joke that was by the way.

The whingers want us to stay up and move onto better things. Its the losers wanting us to plod on week after week losing to oxford city and dorking etc, sirry beibg a bit snobby here. Hiw do you kniw raj has backed the manager? Have you proof of the funds he has given him? Letting him bring in loads of lads who aint good enough is not backing a manager.

Preston Poolie · **Joined:** Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:51 am **Posts:** 80

Think players really need to take a look at themselves, no doubt pools recruitment team need binning and replaced but these players are so called "professionals" and need to show some pride in the shirt

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8921

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

derwent wrote:

Our defensive frailties have been with us a lot longer than Askey has. He has done absolutely nothing to change that. By his own admission he can't get his players to follow what he wants then to do.
Any manager in any walk of life who finds himself in that situation has the glare of spotlights on his results.
Everything, according to the whingers, is Raj's fault because, according to them, Raj hasn't a clue.
Raj has backed the manager and has said he has every confidence in him but no criticism of that decision from the whingers. The reason for that seems strange but when one considers that keeping Askey suits the whingers agenda because they know that Askey is struggling but want to keep him to fulfil their doom and gloom prophesies.

What an utter load of cobblers, no manager will be succesful here now, even challinor was struggling, couldnt win away, having to sign mike fondop, what a joke that was by the way.

The whingers want us to stay up and move onto better things. Its the losers wanting us to plod on week after week losing to oxford city and dorking etc, sirry beibg a bit snobby here. Hiw do you kniw raj has backed the manager? Have you proof of the funds he has given him? Letting him bring in loads of lads who aint good enough is not backing a manager.

Dont bite Billy.
Troll click bait :angry-tappingfoot:

poolie · **Joined:** Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:31 pm **Posts:** 878

A new manager will do what exactly ?

Askey did have us top of the league.

Even today we were missing Jameson, Hendry. Seaman, Lacy, Wallace, Mancini, Grey, Umerah you would say these are 1st team players no matter what you think of them its a fact.

So take any team no matter who Man U, Liverpool if they had this many 1st team injuries they would struggle just like we are.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

poolie wrote:

A new manager will do what exactly ?

Askey did have us top of the league.

Even today we were missing Jameson, Hendry. Seaman, Lacy, Wallace, Mancini, Grey, Umerah you would say these are 1st team players no matter what you think of them its a fact.

So take any team no matter who Man U, Liverpool if they had this many 1st team injuries they would struggle just like we are.

I dont get it the raj sympathisers now want him to replace another manager and spend more money finding a replacement on a team of no hopers.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6680

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Askey who doesnt like loans has had to resort to filling half the team with them, should tell us what we need to know about how bad things are.

Dont forget the free agents shite
.
What happened to this better budget than DC got when the STs were on sale.
Wonder if the old timer crew. still wanna carry on with this stupendous chairman n keep on licking his arse.

Come on Kevin stop dodging the ?

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6680

Raj May( or may not) have spent much.
the moment we went out of the fa cup, Not one penny more.

NO!
Make him suffer like the rest of us.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5381

poolie wrote:

A new manager will do what exactly ?

Askey did have us top of the league.

Even today we were missing Jameson, Hendry. Seaman, Lacy, Wallace, Mancini, Grey, Umerah you would say these are 1st team players no matter what you think of them its a fact.

So take any team no matter who Man U, Liverpool if they had this many 1st team injuries they would struggle just like we are.

This - though you forgot Dan Dodds. Even when we we were flying back in August it was obvious we had a decent first 11 and next to nothing in reserve. With normal luck we might have gone 2 or 3 months before the reality of a piss poor squad became so apparent, but we had no luck.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8921

Grayhoundend wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Askey who doesnt like loans has had to resort to filling half the team with them, should tell us what we need to know about how bad things are.

Dont forget the free agents shite
.
What happened to this better budget than DC got when the STs were on sale.
Wonder if the old timer crew. still wanna carry on with this stupendous chairman n keep on licking his arse.

Come on Kevin stop dodging the ?

Ask me any question matey.
I always reply.
Me no dodger

WTF

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6680

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Askey who doesnt like loans has had to resort to filling half the team with them, should tell us what we need to know about how bad things are.

Dont forget the free agents shite
.
What happened to this better budget than DC got when the STs were on sale.
Wonder if the old timer crew. still wanna carry on with this stupendous chairman n keep on licking his arse.

Come on Kevin stop dodging the ?

Ask me any question matey.
I always reply.
Me no dodger

WTF

Just joking Kevin, The ? is the thread title.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

Mani d
Mani O
Cooke
Wallace
Mancini

All good enough for a conf playoff team

Ferguson
Pruti
Aygemang
Johnson (maybe)
Feather (maybe)

All good enough for mid table team

The rest not good enough

So combination of poor recruitment , injuries and also poor set up mean we are looking at a bottom half finish at best

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1121

loyal_fan wrote:

Mani d
Mani O
Cooke
Wallace
Mancini

All good enough for a conf playoff team

Ferguson
Pruti
Aygemang
Johnson (maybe)
Feather (maybe)

All good enough for mid table team

The rest not good enough

So combination of poor recruitment , injuries and also poor set up mean we are looking at a bottom half finish at best

Featherstone nowhere near good enough, not even for walking football.
Askey (as said before) is clearly out of his depth and clueless. A fortnight off and still no game plan.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22568

You can’t bake a cake with shit ingredients no matter how good a cook you are.

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1121

What an amazing interview he given.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5381

loyal_fan wrote:

Mani d
Mani O
Cooke
Wallace
Mancini

All good enough for a conf playoff team

Ferguson
Pruti
Aygemang
Johnson (maybe)
Feather (maybe)

All good enough for mid table team

The rest not good enough

So combination of poor recruitment , injuries and also poor set up mean we are looking at a bottom half finish at best

And Dodds. Do people on here have memories that short.

The NWC was singing his name today.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5381

ZNB12 wrote:

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Askey (as said before) is clearly out of his depth and clueless. .

Those two promotions must have been accidents then.

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1121

Flying Hogans wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

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Askey (as said before) is clearly out of his depth and clueless. .

Those two promotions must have been accidents then.

Dave Jones got promoted 3 times and FA Cup runners up medal. Enough said......

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1121

Or are you going to come back and say who is Dave Jones???

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1121

Flying Hogans wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

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Askey (as said before) is clearly out of his depth and clueless. .

Those two promotions must have been accidents then.

Richard Money won 2 promotions too and a FA Trophy.

Kenny Bottles · **Joined:** Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:00 pm **Posts:** 759

ZNB12 wrote:

Or are you going to come back and say who is Dave Jones???

Give over. Everyone knows he was in The Monkees.

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1121

Kenny Bottles wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

Or are you going to come back and say who is Dave Jones???

Give over. Everyone knows he was in The Monkees.

Too right he was

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5381

ZNB12 wrote:

Flying Hogans wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

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Askey (as said before) is clearly out of his depth and clueless. .

Those two promotions must have been accidents then.

Dave Jones got promoted 3 times and FA Cup runners up medal. Enough said......

Jones had been out of football for 4 years when he joined Pools. He came with a stinking Billy Big Bollocks attitude, like he was doing little old Hartlepool a massive favour, when in truth he was a fat has-been - evidenced by the fact that he hasn't managed since.

Askey is a jobbing lower league manager who won his last promotion 2 seasons ago and had been out of work for all of 3 months when he replaced Curle.

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1121

Flying Hogans wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

Flying Hogans wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

#
Askey (as said before) is clearly out of his depth and clueless. .

Those two promotions must have been accidents then.

Dave Jones got promoted 3 times and FA Cup runners up medal. Enough said......

Jones had been out of football for 4 years when he joined Pools. He came with a stinking Billy Big Bollocks attitude, like he was doing little old Hartlepool a massive favour, when in truth he was a fat has-been - evidenced by the fact that he hasn't managed since.

Askey is a jobbing lower league manager who won his last promotion 2 seasons ago and had been out of work for all of 3 months when he replaced Curle.

Just like riding a bike bbolt

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1271

derwent wrote:

Our defensive frailties have been with us a lot longer than Askey has. He has done absolutely nothing to change that. By his own admission he can't get his players to follow what he wants then to do.
Any manager in any walk of life who finds himself in that situation has the glare of spotlights on his results.
Everything, according to the whingers, is Raj's fault because, according to them, Raj hasn't a clue.
Raj has backed the manager and has said he has every confidence in him but no criticism of that decision from the whingers. The reason for that seems strange but when one considers that keeping Askey suits the whingers agenda because they know that Askey is struggling but want to keep him to fulfil their doom and gloom prophesies.

I think it is fair to say that all those involved in and currently operating the football side of things - including Raj - are plumbing new depths for Hartlepool United. Take ‘doom and gloom prophecies’ out of it - the reality is - we’re shit and have been since DC left. True leadership is taking accountability when things go wrong, and I’m afraid everybody from the chairman, down to the manager and his coaching staff, through to the players need to hold their hands up and say they’ve let the football club - and its rich history and name - down. Finding new ways to lose. ‘Don’t embarrass the club’ - they’ve managed it on at least 5 occasions already this year. As I said on another thread, it’s like a poor performing corporate business with a terrible culture, that’s hartlepool right now. Acceptance of mediocrity and failure. Everybody needs to step up and raise the levels, and specially the players and manager.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5381

thebigdog wrote:

I think it is fair to say that all those involved in and currently operating the football side of things - including Raj - are plumbing new depths for Hartlepool United. Take ‘doom and gloom prophecies’ out of it - the reality is - we’re shit and have been since DC left. True leadership is taking accountability when things go wrong, and I’m afraid everybody from the chairman, down to the manager and his coaching staff, through to the players need to hold their hands up and say they’ve let the football club - and its rich history and name - down. Finding new ways to lose. ‘Don’t embarrass the club’ - they’ve managed it on at least 5 occasions already this year. As I said on another thread, it’s like a poor performing corporate business with a terrible culture, that’s hartlepool right now. Acceptance of mediocrity and failure. Everybody needs to step up and raise the levels, and specially the players and manager.

Things are absolutely dire at the minute it's true, but HUFC's "rich history"? Run that by me again? Are you referring to the record number of successful re-election applications, or the fact that we've never won a league title, or that we've never gone further than the 4th round of the FA Cup? We've never beaten Ebbsfleet in 7 attempts - is that rich enough?

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1271

Flying Hogans wrote:

thebigdog wrote:

I think it is fair to say that all those involved in and currently operating the football side of things - including Raj - are plumbing new depths for Hartlepool United. Take ‘doom and gloom prophecies’ out of it - the reality is - we’re shit and have been since DC left. True leadership is taking accountability when things go wrong, and I’m afraid everybody from the chairman, down to the manager and his coaching staff, through to the players need to hold their hands up and say they’ve let the football club - and its rich history and name - down. Finding new ways to lose. ‘Don’t embarrass the club’ - they’ve managed it on at least 5 occasions already this year. As I said on another thread, it’s like a poor performing corporate business with a terrible culture, that’s hartlepool right now. Acceptance of mediocrity and failure. Everybody needs to step up and raise the levels, and specially the players and manager.

Things are absolutely dire at the minute it's true, but HUFC's "rich history"? Run that by me again? Are you referring to the record number of successful re-election applications, or the fact that we've never won a league title, or that we've never gone further than the 4th round of the FA Cup? We've never beaten Ebbsfleet in 7 attempts - is that rich enough?

Compare us vs those in the bottom of the NL. I know we are historically shite but we have a very good avg attendance & history versus a lot of those around us. The goals against, the points lost from winning positions, the turnover of players…. Etc. Now that, that is just being accepting of being shite, if you’ve played football at a decent enough level, you know what is taking place on the field is far far beyond the acceptable ESPECIALLY at Pools’ level.

Kettering Poolie · **Posted:** Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:15 pm

Flying Hogans wrote:

thebigdog wrote:

I think it is fair to say that all those involved in and currently operating the football side of things - including Raj - are plumbing new depths for Hartlepool United. Take ‘doom and gloom prophecies’ out of it - the reality is - we’re shit and have been since DC left. True leadership is taking accountability when things go wrong, and I’m afraid everybody from the chairman, down to the manager and his coaching staff, through to the players need to hold their hands up and say they’ve let the football club - and its rich history and name - down. Finding new ways to lose. ‘Don’t embarrass the club’ - they’ve managed it on at least 5 occasions already this year. As I said on another thread, it’s like a poor performing corporate business with a terrible culture, that’s hartlepool right now. Acceptance of mediocrity and failure. Everybody needs to step up and raise the levels, and specially the players and manager.[/quote

Things are absolutely dire at the minute it's true, but HUFC's "rich history"? Run that by me again? Are you referring to the record number of successful re-election applications, or the fact that we've never won a league title, or that we've never gone further than the 4th round of the FA Cup? We've never beaten Ebbsfleet in 7 attempts - is that rich enough?

Never played at Wembley either

NO to sacking the manager - changes nothing other than adding more uncertainty and more expense of paying off more staff. Realistically not going to get anyone better qualified/ experienced to take over the reins. A new manager would then want his own staff, players etc.

Askey has a team / squad that is mainly his, though has been severely hampered by injuries this season. The defensive frailties are obviously something he is addressing, though was an issue long before he arrived. Think we can make a proper judgement about him once the majority of injuries are back playing. Not sure he can be held solely responsible for the thinness of the squad.

As I've said previously - a top half finish and a trip to Wembley in the FAT would be a good season of consolidation for me.

We can then rebuild the rest of the team / squad once the legacy players contracts have expired. It would also be refreshing not have another management change during the season, and some continuity.

No doubt I'll be slated for holding such outrageous views- apologies in advance! bbolt

ToTheHartlepool2-0 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:08 pm **Posts:** 1333

Wouldn't Pools have played at Wembley when Cardiff beckoned and Covid dictated Ashton Gate Bristol City (a bit nearer to Torquay than Hartlepool). Never destined to play at Wembley.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

I think we played in Cardiff because the old Wembley was demolished and the new one was under construction. We played in Bristol because the Euros were going on or about to go on.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Askey should stay for the reasons Kettering Poolie stated. Further disruption is the last thing we need. Obviously if we are at the bottom and points adrift come January then desperate measures will be needed. We are not there yet but by 'eck its no fun being a Poolie at the moment.

harrogatepoolie · **Joined:** Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:35 pm **Posts:** 1126

fckpoolie wrote:

I'd put Sweeney in charge. Or my Mam - because she's got no football tactical nouse either - but at least she'll be cheaper. Seriously I desperately want to think that Askey is the answer - but I don't think he's got a frigging clue. He's had a week without a game to get organised but still he sends them out with no plan at all. Just absolute crap. How can we compete at this level with a defence that can't defend and a midfield who look like boy scouts? We were really lucky today to get a draw at home against a very poor Ebbsfleet.

Manni played well but apart from that - we're so awful that Jake Hastie coming on lifted us (credit to him).

And you know what. I'm pretty sure the next game's going to be the same.

Apart from mentioning our excellent keeper you summarised the performance and my sentiments perfectly.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7072

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

fckpoolie wrote:

I'd put Sweeney in charge. Or my Mam - because she's got no football tactical nouse either - but at least she'll be cheaper. Seriously I desperately want to think that Askey is the answer - but I don't think he's got a frigging clue. He's had a week without a game to get organised but still he sends them out with no plan at all. Just absolute crap. How can we compete at this level with a defence that can't defend and a midfield who look like boy scouts? We were really lucky today to get a draw at home against a very poor Ebbsfleet.

Manni played well but apart from that - we're so awful that Jake Hastie coming on lifted us (credit to him).

And you know what. I'm pretty sure the next game's going to be the same.

Jake hastie lifted us at barnet too he changed the game. Dorking beat us lost 6 nil to gateshead today. Chester beat us, probobly darlos worst team in their history have beaten them today. This is just the tip of the iceberg how bad were going to become if money is not invested in national league quality first 11 players. No matter who is in charge, we need some cash injection from somewhere.

Hastie will be one of the players Pools are open to offers for but there are no takers, he will or should be playing for a move or a new contract at the end of the season.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36396

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

What an utter load of cobblers, no manager will be succesful here now, even challinor was struggling, couldnt win away, having to sign mike fondop, what a joke that was by the way.
Ah the hero worship of DC continues, if Challinor was ‘struggling’ how did we get promoted……?…..try some joined up thinking
The whingers want us to stay up and move onto better things.

Glad you’ve acknowledged what you are, because it’s all you do. Whinge, whinge no matter who’s in charge.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36396

Flying Hogans wrote:

thebigdog wrote:

I think it is fair to say that all those involved in and currently operating the football side of things - including Raj - are plumbing new depths for Hartlepool United. Take ‘doom and gloom prophecies’ out of it - the reality is - we’re shit and have been since DC left. True leadership is taking accountability when things go wrong, and I’m afraid everybody from the chairman, down to the manager and his coaching staff, through to the players need to hold their hands up and say they’ve let the football club - and its rich history and name - down. Finding new ways to lose. ‘Don’t embarrass the club’ - they’ve managed it on at least 5 occasions already this year. As I said on another thread, it’s like a poor performing corporate business with a terrible culture, that’s hartlepool right now. Acceptance of mediocrity and failure. Everybody needs to step up and raise the levels, and specially the players and manager.

Things are absolutely dire at the minute it's true, but HUFC's "rich history"? Run that by me again? Are you referring to the record number of successful re-election applications, or the fact that we've never won a league title, or that we've never gone further than the 4th round of the FA Cup? We've never beaten Ebbsfleet in 7 attempts - is that rich enough?

Our history is hardly distinguished, there’s no denying it , there’s been the odd periods of success in the time I’ve been supporting them, Gibson and IOR….the rest was grazing…..but I’ll stand by the old cow and won’t run around like an aged aunt in a panic.
But bog dog is correct in his analysis, the trouble is across the board…but the team is the manger’s baby.

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