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To me it sounds like a Lennon solo effort!

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but it's not really The Beatles.


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It’s a money maker.

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It's a dirge, same as 'Free as a Bird' 18 years ago.

The only decent Beatlesish tune out of the three posthumous Lennon demos is 'Real Love.' They could use AI to redo Lennon's vocal on that - he sounds a bit like one of the Chipmunks on the version they put out in the 90s.


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It's a dirge, same as 'Free as a Bird' 18 years ago.

The only decent Beatlesish tune out of the three posthumous Lennon demos is 'Real Love.' They could use AI to redo Lennon's vocal on that - he sounds a bit like one of the Chipmunks on the version they put out in the 90s.

I honestly thought’ Free as a bird’ was longer. Ah well.

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had enough of there old songs. for me after there early hits i thought each new one got worse and worse.


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had enough of there old songs. for me after there early hits i thought each new one got worse and worse.

Funny you should say that, but there’s truth in that…I suspect there trips for ‘ enlightenment’ in India didn’t help.

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The little medley on the B side of Abbey road is one of my favourite bits of music ever.

You never give me your money/Sun king/Mean Mr Mustard/Polythene Pam/She came in through the bathroom window.

They just flow together, all the ideas are great, you just hear them once then it moves on to another killer line. I love it, it's brilliant.


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Snowy wrote:
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had enough of there old songs. for me after there early hits i thought each new one got worse and worse.

Funny you should say that, but there’s truth in that…I suspect there trips for ‘ enlightenment’ in India didn’t help.


:roll: Just goes to show you two were born as old men :lol:


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Flying Hogans wrote:
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had enough of there old songs. for me after there early hits i thought each new one got worse and worse.

Funny you should say that, but there’s truth in that…I suspect there trips for ‘ enlightenment’ in India didn’t help.


:roll: Just goes to show you two were born as old men :lol:

I found the Beatles very tame actually, a bit too twee for my liking as a ten year old…..touche

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Snowy wrote:
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had enough of there old songs. for me after there early hits i thought each new one got worse and worse.

Funny you should say that, but there’s truth in that…I suspect there trips for ‘ enlightenment’ in India didn’t help.


:roll: Just goes to show you two were born as old men :lol:

I found the Beatles very tame actually, a bit too twee for my liking as a ten year old…..touche

i liked them when they first started but founds a number of other groups who came up around the same time and after just more to my taste. do think though their image actually helped them as they had a broad appeal to all ages and sexes unlike some artists at the time like cliff richard who by then was the middle aged womens darling with younger fans turning off him.


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The most overrated group in the history of the world.


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The most overrated group!!! Seems like there are too many old farts on here who don’t appreciate brilliance. Maybe go back to Ed Sheeran . There is talent !!!!


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Fact, The Beatles where innovators. Everyone else followed and their creative output was massive. Yes some groups like the Stones, the Who or the animals where edgier but how many great songs did they write? Yes thought so debate over.


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Fact, The Beatles where innovators. Everyone else followed and their creative output was massive. Yes some groups like the Stones, the Who or the animals where edgier but how many great songs did they write? Yes thought so debate over.

So, music began with the Beatles…..oh dear.
As for the old farts dig, i was in the bleedin juniors in their hey day so explain that to me , were you a prospective foetus with a stash of Beatles ditties….?
Innovative, sctatchinghead …….they got the publicity because all the daft girls and some boys were in love with them…and sales were money then.
The Stones and the Who by all means, but the Beatles were the nice boys the girls could take home to meet their mam and dad.
As for Ed Sheeran, I wouldn’t start a bonfire with him, music has been in a dire state for years …. full of screech along ‘music’ to get drunk/ stoned by.

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You obviously know nothing about music. Maybe 2 little boys more your style. The early stuff a bit dated now I must admit. But could the Stones write something like Eleanor Rigby or a day in the life. Probably a bit too sophisticated for your palate. If your a Dylan fan I might defer a bit but I didn’t like his singing. Proper music began with Elvis of whom the Beatles revered. When Sargent Pepper come out everybody was stunned. Brian Wilson tried to replicate with Pet Sounds which although good could not manage the mastery of Lennon and McCartney.


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You obviously know nothing about music. Maybe 2 little boys more your style. The early stuff a bit dated now I must admit. But could the Stones write something like Eleanor Rigby or a day in the life. Probably a bit too sophisticated for your palate. If your a Dylan fan I might defer a bit but I didn’t like his singing. Proper music began with Elvis of whom the Beatles revered. When Sargent Pepper come out everybody was stunned. Brian Wilson tried to replicate with Pet Sounds which although good could not manage the mastery of Lennon and McCartney.

You ‘obviously’ believe that your taste in ‘music’ is superior to everybody else’s., it isn’t …..just different.
Music tastes are many and varied and what someone may consider brilliant someone else dismisses as tosh.
Face up to it, you’re a snob stuck in a time warp or old before your time
In the case of ‘obviously knowing nothing about music’ you only show your own intolerance of others tastes.

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music is just in the ear of the listener. how many who do not like a song keep quiet because it makes number 1 in the charts and everyone else says its brilliant. think there is another thread about that. prefer agadoo any day to some tuneless dirge the experts say its brilliant or the artist actually wrote it themselves. each to their own and nobody has a right to say what good music or bad is. just enjoy what you like. i,ll get my gene krupa CD on now.


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Beatles probably the first Commercially formed group, Once the big boys knew they could make dosh out of them.


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Music. One mans fish is another mans poisson.

Au revoir.


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My view on music is in agreement with the quote below from "The Commitments".

Everything's shite since Roy Orbison died.


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I never get involved in musical discussion. I like what I like and that's it.

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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
The most overrated group in the history of the world.


Over the years a lot of ridiculous things have been written on this site but this from Mr Irrelevant has to be up there with the daftest of them.


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It’s like comparing Catherine Cookson to Tolstoy


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You obviously know nothing about music. Maybe 2 little boys more your style. The early stuff a bit dated now I must admit. But could the Stones write something like Eleanor Rigby or a day in the life. Probably a bit too sophisticated for your palate. If your a Dylan fan I might defer a bit but I didn’t like his singing. Proper music began with Elvis of whom the Beatles revered. When Sargent Pepper come out everybody was stunned. Brian Wilson tried to replicate with Pet Sounds which although good could not manage the mastery of Lennon and McCartney.


I think you’ve got that the wrong way round. Brian Wilson brought out Pet Sounds and the Beatles tried to emulate it. Whether or not they succeeded is a matter of opinion!!


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It’s like comparing Catherine Cookson to Tolstoy

What is sctatchinghead

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You obviously know nothing about music. Maybe 2 little boys more your style. The early stuff a bit dated now I must admit. But could the Stones write something like Eleanor Rigby or a day in the life. Probably a bit too sophisticated for your palate. If your a Dylan fan I might defer a bit but I didn’t like his singing. Proper music began with Elvis of whom the Beatles revered. When Sargent Pepper come out everybody was stunned. Brian Wilson tried to replicate with Pet Sounds which although good could not manage the mastery of Lennon and McCartney.




He said yeah yeah yeah
She said yeah yeah yeah
They said yeah yeah yeah
Repeat ad nauseous

Pure poetry.


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He said yeah yeah yeah
She said yeah yeah yeah
They said yeah yeah yeah
Repeat ad nauseous

Pure poetry.


You're right, that's exactly what the 'loveable Mop Tops' sounded like in 1963-64. If they'd knocked it on the head then that's all anyone would have to remember them by. :lol:


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My view on music is in agreement with the quote below from "The Commitments".

Everything's shite since Roy Orbison died.



Very true, RIP Roy.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
harrogatepoolie wrote:
You obviously know nothing about music. Maybe 2 little boys more your style. The early stuff a bit dated now I must admit. But could the Stones write something like Eleanor Rigby or a day in the life. Probably a bit too sophisticated for your palate. If your a Dylan fan I might defer a bit but I didn’t like his singing. Proper music began with Elvis of whom the Beatles revered. When Sargent Pepper come out everybody was stunned. Brian Wilson tried to replicate with Pet Sounds which although good could not manage the mastery of Lennon and McCartney.




He said yeah yeah yeah
She said yeah yeah yeah
They said yeah yeah yeah
Repeat ad nauseous

Pure poetry.

I cracked up when Elvis was mentioned…… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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The most overrated group!!! Seems like there are too many old farts on here who don’t appreciate brilliance.



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It's great for Beatles fans isn't it? But it's a very tame effort, and definitely not worth the wait.


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harrogatepoolie wrote:
It’s like comparing Catherine Cookson to Tolstoy



Sacha Distel or Engelbert Humperdink?...lets keeps it musical eh. :wink:


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
The most overrated group in the history of the world.


If the Beatles where so overrated how come 50+ years after they disbanded Middlesbrough theatre was sold out last night with approx. 500 people myself included watching a tribute band.
Listening to the band last night you appreciate just how good the Beatles where and the enormous catalogue of songs they wrote that other performers have recorded these include, The Beach Boys, Cockney Rebel, Elton John, Bono, David Bowie, The Stones plus dozens of other artists.


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I can't imagine what Mick Jagger,Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood would make of it.. :laugh:


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Kenny Bottles wrote:
My view on music is in agreement with the quote below from "The Commitments".

Everything's shite since Roy Orbison died.



Very true, RIP Roy.


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Him and that George Harrison were good in the Traveling Wilbuys. ;)


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Mulvaney wrote:
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The most overrated group in the history of the world.


If the Beatles where so overrated how come 50+ years after they disbanded Middlesbrough theatre was sold out last night with approx. 500 people myself included watching a tribute band.
Listening to the band last night you appreciate just how good the Beatles where and the enormous catalogue of songs they wrote that other performers have recorded these include, The Beach Boys, Cockney Rebel, Elton John, Bono, David Bowie, The Stones plus dozens of other artists.



Simply old folk trying to recapture their youth.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Mulvaney wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
The most overrated group in the history of the world.


If the Beatles where so overrated how come 50+ years after they disbanded Middlesbrough theatre was sold out last night with approx. 500 people myself included watching a tribute band.
Listening to the band last night you appreciate just how good the Beatles where and the enormous catalogue of songs they wrote that other performers have recorded these include, The Beach Boys, Cockney Rebel, Elton John, Bono, David Bowie, The Stones plus dozens of other artists.



Simply old folk trying to recapture their youth.


Lots of younger people where also there.


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Mulvaney wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Mulvaney wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
The most overrated group in the history of the world.


If the Beatles where so overrated how come 50+ years after they disbanded Middlesbrough theatre was sold out last night with approx. 500 people myself included watching a tribute band.
Listening to the band last night you appreciate just how good the Beatles where and the enormous catalogue of songs they wrote that other performers have recorded these include, The Beach Boys, Cockney Rebel, Elton John, Bono, David Bowie, The Stones plus dozens of other artists.



Simply old folk trying to recapture their youth.


Lots of younger people where also there.

Can we just simplify it to people have different musical tastes.
You were surrounded by like minded people so naturally you enjoyed yourself.
It’s all about opinions.
My favourite piece of music is Chopin’s Polonaise Militaire played by Tziv Erez, but I wouldn’t expect anyone else to, it’s all about individual preferences.

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Mulvaney wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Mulvaney wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
The most overrated group in the history of the world.


If the Beatles where so overrated how come 50+ years after they disbanded Middlesbrough theatre was sold out last night with approx. 500 people myself included watching a tribute band.
Listening to the band last night you appreciate just how good the Beatles where and the enormous catalogue of songs they wrote that other performers have recorded these include, The Beach Boys, Cockney Rebel, Elton John, Bono, David Bowie, The Stones plus dozens of other artists.



Simply old folk trying to recapture their youth.


Lots of younger people where also there.


Also known as carers.


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Mulvaney wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
The most overrated group in the history of the world.


If the Beatles where so overrated how come 50+ years after they disbanded Middlesbrough theatre was sold out last night with approx. 500 people myself included watching a tribute band.
Listening to the band last night you appreciate just how good the Beatles where and the enormous catalogue of songs they wrote that other performers have recorded these include, The Beach Boys, Cockney Rebel, Elton John, Bono, David Bowie, The Stones plus dozens of other artists.


Yep if you are a Beatle devotee like I am you realise because of the high quality category of songs how good they where. Most good bands don’t progress too much in their career. The Beatles started with love me do which is pretty tame now to a day in the life and Eleanor Rigby to name a few. No one in the history of rock and pop has published so much quality in a period of only 8 years. Now and then is ok.


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Perhaps Mr Irrelevant could enlighten us with who is or was a good band, I fancy having a good laugh before I go to bed,


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harrogatepoolie wrote:
Mulvaney wrote:
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The most overrated group in the history of the world.


If the Beatles where so overrated how come 50+ years after they disbanded Middlesbrough theatre was sold out last night with approx. 500 people myself included watching a tribute band.
Listening to the band last night you appreciate just how good the Beatles where and the enormous catalogue of songs they wrote that other performers have recorded these include, The Beach Boys, Cockney Rebel, Elton John, Bono, David Bowie, The Stones plus dozens of other artists.


Yep if you are a Beatle devotee like I am you realise because of the high quality category of songs how good they where. Most good bands don’t progress too much in their career. The Beatles started with love me do which is pretty tame now to a day in the life and Eleanor Rigby to name a few. No one in the history of rock and pop has published so much quality in a period of only 8 years. Now and then is ok.

Is that you Paul…?

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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Mulvaney wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Mulvaney wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
The most overrated group in the history of the world.


If the Beatles where so overrated how come 50+ years after they disbanded Middlesbrough theatre was sold out last night with approx. 500 people myself included watching a tribute band.
Listening to the band last night you appreciate just how good the Beatles where and the enormous catalogue of songs they wrote that other performers have recorded these include, The Beach Boys, Cockney Rebel, Elton John, Bono, David Bowie, The Stones plus dozens of other artists.



Simply old folk trying to recapture their youth.


Lots of younger people where also there.


Also known as carers.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Wish I’d thought of that.

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derwent wrote:
I never get involved in musical discussion. I like what I like and that's it.

thats true, but it annoys me when people think you should like certain music and if you do not then they accuse you of knowing nothing about the subject. her in the kitchens father was a trumpeter in geraldo,s band in the late 30,s and after war service always accused her of that when she liked the new rock and roll of the mid 50,s. just because you are top of your proffesion does not mean you have the only view on a subject thats correct.


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I'm a heavy rock/metal fan since it first started with Zeppelin, Sabbath, Purple etc etc but if I could only listen to one band for the rest of my life it would be the Beatles.

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I'm a heavy rock/metal fan since it first started with Zeppelin, Sabbath, Purple etc etc but if I could only listen to one band for the rest of my life it would be the Beatles.


Plus you'd be doing what's left of your hearing a favour :wink:


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Speaking of the Beatles, me and the wife were going through a load of prints and posters deciding which were getting boxed up, tossed out or framed…..came across a ‘Yellow Submarine’ poster about 4x2 in its tube, brand new, don’t even know who bought it….It’ll be going on E bay. :laugh:

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