So what happens if its another reverse at Halifax on Tuesday? Any thoughts folks?

We will be nearer the bottom of the table and probably have to wave bye bye to JA

Woooh
I can see this thread being deleted. .
Seriously though of course its a home win.

I am wondering whether JA will walk?

We'll go one better on Tuesday night at the Shay.

Halifax 0-2 Pools 86'

Halifax 3-2 Pools 89'

For the first time in my life, I don’t really care.

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He will walk to the Bank laffing his bollocks off getting past the 6 months wall especially on a 3 years contract.
Win ratio just as bad as previous mugs under this Regime.
And he dosent even look like a football manager.
Its not looking good unless ya believe in fairy tales

He'll be glad to be sacked I imagine. His post match interviews tell it's own tale. It's literally just a job to him, nothing more. I'd give the job to Sweeney for the rest of the season, seriously.

I’d stick with him, thouugh mainly because I don’t see anyone doing a better job than him who would realistically come

its the closest club to me but do i go, watch the live stream or not even bother with either. feel a bit disloyal to the club by not turning up but then what loyalty to some players have to a pools shirt in the short time they are with us. not sure where i actually stand about anything to do with pools at the moment and a soft as shite performance seen live could finish me for the season.

of course its just a job for him and the players. the question is are everyone involved in the team and the players doing the job to the best of their ability. it was just a job also for challinor and we do not know if he put more effort into it than askey is doing. the only difference is the players were better and gave the impression they cared more.

A friend of mine has stopped going after 50 years and says he will only return when Raj sells to someone who has the clubs best interest at heart. I am almost feeling like wise after 60 + years . What happened to the solid offer that was on the table. Greed is a terrible thing, while I thank him for saving the club he should of realised now was the time to sell after all nobody wants to invest and work along side him.

no one was ever go to invest with him or anyone else because they would have little to say on how their money would be used. need a new owner but only the right one.

Dont think its AJs fault stick with him unless he walks.

Not a great attacking force Halifax, But stubborn to break down.
At this moment i think a draw would feel like a win.

Why would anyone invest in a football team. Invest in my thinking is to make money. What you mean is through your money away.

its like investing in a hobby more than an investment to increase your bank balance. even in the billionaires league which owner makes a profit out of the clubs for themselves.

draws really got us relegated last season and not the defeat by crawley. if we had turned all those draws into half wins and half defeats we would still be in the league.

The falling crowds tell a story.
Asking Price needs reducing.
Ya cant rule out the big A.

To the players its a JOB, Is it your job to support them.

Your choice, Either way you will be right with the decision you make.

Officals cost us a few points also.

If you leave the words ‘Halifax’ and ‘Tuesday’ out you can be asking that question with interchangeable team and days for the rest of the season.

Chesterfield and Oldham have had a tough time adapting to the NL but both - in particular Spireites - have far stronger squads and look much more prepared for a return to the FL. We’re miles off them, Oldham will climb now. Given the time it has taken these clubs to become contenders, perhaps we need a little patience?

The most depressing part is the way we played - bar Crawley, Salford & Newport - at the end of last season was nearly enough to save us. The identity of an Askey team seems lost and it’s generally a turgid watch, which is in contract to what they mustered in the end of last season. I love the football club but this current incumbent has left me the most disinterested I’ve been in a very long time. It’s proper shite stuff.

He’s recruited a lot of these players. He’s still running with the DC 5-3-2. We concede comical goals. We don’t win football matches. Crowds dropping. I think Raj’s patience will run thin with another humbling on Tuesday, his expectation for the season has and is a promotion push. We’re nowhere near.

It’s basically turned into what went before him……when he first came we perked up then the players took a wobbly that cost us our league status….are managers forced to follow a set play pattern ? …ridiculous of course, but you have to wonder sometimes.

When Askey came to pools i and others were led to believe his preferred formation was 4 3 3
Having used it with great sucess in the past.
Now it seems he won,t touch it with a barge pole. Why.

In 4-3-3 the space left in the wide areas between the full-back and winger is an open door if you have a weak defensive midfield/back four. It leaves you open to counter attacks. This is probably why he's avoiding it (given the squad we've got).

Of course - him avoiding 4-3-3 isn't helping at the moment because our players tend to give the ball away as a free gift to the opposition in scoring positions no matter what formation we play.

The answer to this is simple really. He can't train poor players (with contracts) into being good players. They've either got it or they haven't. - so at least two of our back four need replacing with some quality.

It'd make a world of difference.

That's stretching a point. He's signed 6 players on permanent deals - two of them (Mancini and Wallace) have hardly played because of injuries and Burton is a 19-year-old signed as a squad player.

Askey inherited 12 players on contracts - 13 if you count Ndjoli. That's still where the bulk of the wages are going - and will be till next summer, as Pooly Imp keeps pointing out.

If you reckon the football played under "the current incumbent" is the worst you've seen in a very long time you've got me seriously wondering how long you've been watching Pools. Worse than all of Curle, Hartley, Lee, Hignett, Money, Bates, Harrison and Jones?

Agree Hogan. I have seen much worse football from Pools in the many years I have followed Pools. Mind you the standard of all teams has gone up over the years. Still need to persevere with Askey for now and see where we are by Christmas . If I was the manager I would be throwing everything at sorting the defence out. Keeper seems to be improving.

When your first signing in the summer is a kid from scarborough you sort of know whats coming. This guys hands are tied probobly more than most in this league. He got macclesfield promoted and he had us top on a shoestring until injuries decimated us. Have we replaced them? in raj style of course not, i cant even bring myself to criticise another manager until he is put on a level playing field with the likes of gateshead etc.

This club would make pep guardiola look like a mug after a few months.

Being a bit selective there aren’t you…Burton was one for the future, what about the other players Askey signed ?
He was allowed to sign players so where do you get this hands tied reasoning from?
Reading this you’d think every other club in this league had benevolent caring cash splashing owners, brilliant gifted managers and top talented players and tactics …..while we were surviving on scraps from the table.
It seems every team we’ve played have just been all brilliant and us just dullards.
Some perspective needed here and less RDM.

Of course he is allowed to sign players every club in the country signs players, its the quality of them, if we didnt we would never have a team to put out. Just take a look at the recent desperate loanees we sign, this guy is not given a chance. Wheres the quality? In the main its kids expected to perform miracles, I dont believe for one second a man who has won this league would go out and get loanees in and not even play them, so who is making these decisions?

I'd imagine Pools have spent more in the last 18 months on players wages than the likes of Gateshead, but Williamson chose all of the Heeds players in that time. Askey is saddled with the legacy of Hartley's signings (all on 2 year deals) and Curle's panic transfer business in the January window.

My biggest beef with Raj Singh is the revolving door of managers. That never works, but there are people on here pretending another change in the dugout will do the trick and practically inviting Raj to pull the trigger

if hastie and paterson had got long term injuries along with dolan being out for weeks i doubt any of these topics and answers would have come up. its just the loss of the players we have lost thats the problem. we signed a dodds replacement but not a mancini one. thing is i doubt we could have replaced mancini as he had something totally different about him others do not posses,

JA dosent like Loanies.
His words during the summer not made up shit.

Totally agree with both view but you got to factor in the standard of those divisions then were well above this worst ever level of non leagues Premier Division.
Its horrendously bad n we struggling to compete as the results purely divine.

So basically you are saying he’s happy to sign crap players because he has a poor budget…?
So what does it say about a manager who comes to Pools and is happy to survive on peanuts, what sane manager would do that?
In fact what self respecting manager would touch Pools with a barge pole if that was the case, managers have a grapevine and word soon gets around if things as terrible as you say.
This is just par for the course, Challinor was getting stick on here in the first half of the promotion season, funny how success brings about terminal amnesia.
Excuse my cynicism.

Employ the correct manager like DC then back them.
The 5500+ crowds n xtra sponsorship will contribute massively to put an end to the revolving door.

In the meantime we losing a shitload of fans under this Regime.

Can understand yours and others frustrations, But who do you replace Raj with.
Unless you know something we don,t And unless there is someone ready to step in
Then whats the point of going on and on about it.
Although it is your choice.

You never know somebody could be waiting in the wings until the clubs value
Drops, Or Raj gets totally pissed off.
Massive gamble though, Because if you drop down leagues it costs
Twice as much to get back to where you already are.

Challinor also had to revert to cheap shit. Are we forgetting the 20 forwards we were in for? Who did challinor supposedly have to turn too at the end of the day? Mr fondop. Was it him that signed him or was it one of the background guys? We have sold anyone and everyone we possibly can, no way to build on success and replaced them on the whole with utter garbage. Every other manager in this league has bragged how great of a manager we have, yet we are turning him into a laughing stock like we have with quite a few other managers, at the end of the day eventually you have to start thinking is it really all these managers faults?

That doesn’t answer the question though does it.

Fans have very short memories. Even in the promotion season Pools started with cheap options signed by Challinor that didn't work out - Ofosu, Bloomfield, Josh McDonald and Luke Williams to name four. Pools were 14th in the NL in early December. Rhys Oates could have been a fifth flop- he didn't score his first for us in any competition till 22nd December - after Luke Armstrong signed on loan. In fact, you can make a fair case for saying Armstrong made our promotion season. We should have broken the bank to hang onto him.

I agree, Oates wasn’t welcomed back on this board, but scoring goals helps.
Trouble with Armstrong was he was Salford’s player and Harrogate’s money bags owner had more firepower than us.

But Snowy what is promised and what materialized can be different. Graeme Lee said as much in his Switch of Play interview and who can forget 'Mr Chairman' bragging about withholding a quarter of DC's budget in our first season back in League 2?
JA might've been happy with the budget he was given but after the Dodds, Mancini and Cooke injuries you would expect to be supported to bring in replacements which might go beyond the budget.

Again what was promised…? As for Lee, I expressed my opinion when he was appointed on here, a botch up to keep the fans on side by bringing back a former player, I blame Raj for that.
As for not signing replacements for Mancini and Cooke and Dodds, if you did that every time you got an injury you’d be bankrupt….especially as the players left have proved they can produce the goods if they’d give themselves a slap and came out of their self inflicted trauma.
Any way , dinner times over, the ladders are waiting and I’ve got wiring to replace.tat-a for now.

Could you suggest who the correct manager would be Mr Gloves ?

In agreement about Lee's appointment but opinions on his suitability don't affect how he wasn't given the tools by the chairman that he was promised.
That's correct if we signed a replacement for every injury we had, then yes we would be. However football clubs have insurance for long term injuries and to not replace 2 players which were supposed to be out for the season is madness at our level especially when they were key players.

"Broke the bank to hold onto/sign players?...... in the 5 decades I've been following Pools we've never ever broken the bank to hold onto/sign any players that I can think of, we've never possessed the financial resources to do so, when I was younger those Rothmans football yearbooks always had a ' Club Record Transfer ' section and it was embarrassing to read as a Pools fan as it was always the lowest amount in the football league, by quite a way tbh.

What's with fannying around with the Smilies all of a sudden?

Of course he wont be happy to sign rubbish but what choice does he have if all he can bring in a re young kids or lads nowhere near the standard of what we had before. Lets remember askey will be getting a wage his pure aim is to probobly survive in this job until somethibg comes along.

How many players did Lee ship out who are now playing in the EFL, And how many did he sign who are playing below our level.