What is a good budget to operate at our level. Come on let's have a stab at it.
Ground rent, rates etc
Playing budget,
Admin Staff.
Coaching staff.
Ground staff.
Equipment.
Travel costs.
Hotel costs.
Repairs and maintenance.
Police costs.
Stewarding and turnstile costs.
Energy costs.
Running an academy.
Feel free to add anything you think I've missed out.

How about the 3 men in Black Mr. D.?

I bet you can put aside £1200-£1500 per match and probably a few bob more.

Yes. I obviously haven't thought of everything and there'll be other costs to consider. Be interesting if anyone can have a realistic punt at it.

Catering

Perhaps a most important one as Southend United will testify to the HMRC,

Debts, and sacked players and managers contracts

Insurance, Public liability goes on and on.

Coke and whooers.

Thats the same as other clubs.

The numbers won't be the same as other clubs though.
On the other hand what income do we generate?

I thought we had farmed that out but that should be making a profit and covering any cost it generates but shove it in.

That comes next to see where we stand on income vs expenditure, which will give us an idea on shortfall/surplus.

Not necessarily. Some clubs travel on the day and don't pay hotel bills for example.

Maybe that were we going wrong.
Pampering the players to much.

It's worth looking at.

There's the money owing to Blackledge that we're paying off annually as well, unless that debt has been cleared.

Looked at some figures gleaned from Internet which in reality are guesstimate.

National League average PLAYERS ONLY budget is about £1,250,000 per annum and this is based on a yearly 48 week contract for each player. When you base this on a squad of 22 Players it works out at an average weekly gross wage of £1184 which is probably higher for at least 2/3rds of the team. This would give the higher earners upwards of £2000 per week.

Now when it comes to ticket income, based on the average price of £15 across 23 league matches and covering average crowd of 4300 it is £1,449,000, about £200,000 in excess of the player's budget and allows the payment of JA and a couple of staff.

All the other payments have to come through sponsorship and Raj's pocket so please don't knock RS.

I await for comments, good, bad & indifferent.

That’s a pretty good assessment of the playing budget and income from league matches. The club has other income and outlays and I think that overall the club needs a minimum income of about £60k per week, 52 weeks in the year. Managed properlly this should enable the club to be a decent Div.2 team. I am not going to criticise RS because only he knows how much of his personal wealth can he afford to spend on maintaining Pools. He must have his limits

Critical thinking - a good post , but one thing you have forgotten about - is that almost £250,000 of that ticket income has to go to the VAT man - so there is no money left for manager etc

We also get parachute payments for next couple of seasons and money for appearing on tnt sports. Around another 220K this year.

Whatever the great leader says is a good budget.

I don’t get the overnight stay in a hotel, better spend the night in the comfort of your own bed, how many times have you slept in a hotel overnight and had a good nights sleep ?

50% of the average crowd would be season tickets so not an accurate number for income.

Unbudgeted Cup moneys!
EFL tv moneys
Results since DC left suggest this Dident go back onto the pitch.
Maybe we are debt free now n Blacklege has a top of the range Jaguar or somebody else has.

Just possible maybes.

on the other hand getting up at some stupid o, clock for a journey down south would knacker me up for the day. there must be others the same as me. would be great for a club like solihull who could manage fine without overnights.

It wasn’t unusual for me to be up at daft o’clock on a Monday morning driving for hours then put a 10 hours shift in, we are talking footballers who after a bit of loosening up should be ok.
I don’t recall before the IOR days Pools having overnight stays.
A National League team a few seasons back come on the train to Pools, I think their kit was brought in a van.

do not think its all a matter of stiffness. its just getting up earlier than normal that gets to people. i get up once it gets light or just after 6 whichever comes earlier which is when i wake up naturally. i,m certainly not the only one who if they have to rely on an alarm clock they are knackered all day. i have fallen down the stairs in the past and gone the wrong way to work because of this and others have done likewise. baically i,m totally unfit to drive but legally i am.

All valid.
But they don,t start till 3.00pm
They don,t drive to the match, Some players get picked up enroute
Also not the type of coach me and you travel on.

Are you suggesting that the season tickets are free? Course not - that is why they are included in the figures I've mentioned. It doesn't matter if the income comes in pre season start or weekly, it still comes out the same as I've calculated.

I thought Billi P knew all of our budget details.

Not all you based your figures on attendances on the day, you can’t as season tickets are sold at less than the actual match day admission.

I took an average price which includes the REDUCED season ticket price and adequately covers these.