Up for sale £750000, Wetherspoons off loaded it a few years back as they weren’t prepared to pay the high business rates, now owned by a Teesside company.
Needs some money spending on it to freshen it up, it’s not the busy place it used to be though, Fridays nights used to be manic, but now everyone has moved to the Marina.

IMO that building is not worth £750k. Its traded badly since the takeover and most of the "clientele" have drifted to the Three Brass Monkeys or Eskimo Joes. Its not in a good location either and is in a bit of a state.
Pubs are going cheaply now with smaller ones being converted to housing.I was a furniture shop as i remember but it can have no alternative use as far as i can see.
The market hall is all but empty now and the remaining should be given units elsewhere in the shopping centre given the number empty and i would like to see it and the KJT demolished as it looks awful.
Or have they got wind of a CPO and are trying to set out a negotiating stance on price?
I thought i had heard in the past it was leased but that may have changed????

Dunno why they don’t open up the units in the shopping centre for things like Doctors surgery’s ?

I've often wondered if them carpets are still down and if that fruit machine ever dropped every time i walk past.

Given the state of the town centre- particularly all the empty shop units round by the indoor market - it's in a really bad spot, in terms of passing trade/ footfall on a day to day basis- which is probably why Spoons bailed out. It never feels particularly safe, even in daylight hours - with lots of gruffys kicking about in the vicinity- looking for an argument- assuming they're not already arguing with themselves.

They couldn’t afford the rent and who would be willing to pay parking charges to see a Doctor or pick up a prescription.
Once the major chains like B&M, Boots,Primark,Poundland etc leases run out plus Wilki’s is still hanging on I can see the centre being demolished in the next few years. There are so many dead areas from walking up past the King John past where the Post Office used to be etc even Greggs closed their shop along there.

I remember my dad telling me that when the plans for the shopping centre were laid out in the late 60’s it was called in to the regional planning authority in Newcastle at the time because it was felt moving the town’s main shopping centre to a totally new location was planning madness as it would involve demolishing a largely central residential area and blighting the area it left…they were right as it turned out…..but when Councillors with big ego’s keen to leave a lasting memorial are involved you have no choice…. It was the successor to the Max Lock Plan post war which would have entailed demolishing most of central West Hartlepool and end up looking like Peterlee on steroids.
The Council were advised to reconsider redevelopment around Lynn Street as moving centres had always failed in the past…. they ignored the experts and we’re still dealing with the fall out 50 years on.

funny how the towns that avoided the 60,s redevelopment have had the most success. the era that taste forgot for me. something needed to be done at the time as the place was looking shabby but chucking a wrecking ball at the place never worked as in others that went down the same line. go anywhere were they did this no matter the size of the town and thats the area you,ll find the closed shops and whats left is the same as everyone else have got.

My mam was born and raised in a pub near to where Verril’s fish shop is.
As a teenager, the families in the original Croft were moved en masse to West View, which is why West View was built, you never got a choice, so the original inhabitants were shipped out.
She always said the one’s who live down there now are interlopers …..what a gold mine that would have been with visitors, but it appears the Councillors thought it a better idea to turn it into a Council housing estate than modernise the homes of people who’d lived there for generations…it worked for Whitby.
We’ve had some dumb leadership over the years.

How many councils went down the road of building concrete jungles replacing the old fashioned but perfectly serviceable shopping areas. The only good thing Hartlepool Council did was never resort to high rise housing.

i would not blame the council too much over that. they were only following what the majority were doing at the time of demolishing anything regarded as being old fashioned for anything new. now there has been a change in attitude about older property where refurbishment is the name of the game rather than demolision. probebly a good job as goodness knows what places would be looking like now if they had carried on with their old ways.

All the towns with nice centres nowadays didn’t jump on the knock down bandwagon…..

more to do with the space being available rather than not wanting to build them. the concept of high rise is not bad really its just people in this country are mostly not in favour of them and never class them as a real home like in many other countries where they are popular. leads to vandalism and bored kids even though there are some facilities for them to play. the complex in the middle of sheffield should or could have been a great success but the people being forced to move there did not help instead of opening it up to more that wanted to be there. saying all that more care should have been taken in the architecture of these places that would have looked more in place in communist russia or east berlin.

I think high rises would be ok for retired people with the bottom two floors devoted to services to them and no public access….you certainly won’t get cretins licking balls against the window with a view worth having.

i,d live in one if there was no pet ban inforced. was terrible people who were forced to get rid of their cats and dogs before they were moved without choice into these places. there must have been some unhappy endings for many of these poor sods.

Lived the 20th floor of one for nearly a year, great facilities swimming pool fitness centre views etc well maintained but very isolated and claustrophobic once you closed the door.

Could be paradise to some people ..and you could spot those you don’t want to visit coming from miles away.

The isolation could also drive some one over the edge, plenty of sky divers here on a regular basis usually put down to suicide,high rise/condominium accommodation is not for me.

it isn,t and thats always been the problem from the outset as i have said. pull down streets and then put em all into a high rise whether they want it or not instead of offering brand spanking new homes to the ones that fancy them in the first place. in theory that should cut down on suicides.

Have you ever lived in a high rise, I have on several occasions and it’s no fun being cocooned inside a box x amount of feet of the ground.

no, but like every thing else peoples view of them are all different. one of the main problems are vandeled lifts and other things that are man made rather than the design of the places. flats are popular in other countries unlike here. given the choice of a high rise flat to a house with a massive garden i had to look after then i,d give one a go as gardening is possibly the bottom of my want to do list. having hay fever does not help.

I have a second floor apartment in Hartlepool, most of the owners have them rented out, some but not all of renters don’t look after the communal areas, stairways etc, not mine so not bothered is their attitude.

Having lived in high rise abroad which were managed with 24 hour security, CCTV etc therefore no vandalism, big difference in the U.K. they were never managed or have security, lifts vandalised or stinking of urine likewise the stairs.

We need concierge’s.