anyone actually knows what happens to a car if you take up any of these scrappage schemes the government brought out thats happening in london now. are the cars scrapped and if so which breakers yard. are they exported to countries short of vehicles or are they available to buy for others in the country from somewhere for those whose only interest in emmisions is their car passes a MOT. its a crying shame if they are scrapped in secret with many parts off them unable to be purchased by owners who own similar vehicles. the whole thing is shrouded in secrecy and the only thing dealers can tell you is their own theories with nothing to back it up.

Now let’s imagine our green zealots want all petrol/diesel cars off the road as quickly as possible, the first thing you do is reduce the supply of older cars in circulation then eliminate the support ie the spares and your 90% of the way there.
The old garage joke about “Can’t get the spares mate” will be true for a change.
Mr A enjoy your freedom to drive because they only people able to will be those with money to buy over priced electric cars….they don’t need to have masses of charging points because there won’t be that many drivers about anymore.
Your freedom will be where the buses take you and no one can afford trains so the outlook is bleak.

you have to love these green zealots who give the impression the only reason they breath is to tell others how to live. i have no intention of telling them what to do with their money and lives and expect the same from others. even there arguements on everything makes me even more determined to carry on regardless. sod em all and they can stuff their kale and the rest where the sun never shines. hell the dogs just farted so they,ll be after him next.

They'll be encouraging or stopping people travelling to away games next, they'll say you don't need to travel, polluting the atmosphere in your saloon cars/buses, you can watch it for a tenner from the comfort of your own home, surely that's progress?, or is it?, not realising that fans enjoy the trip, a chance to visit somewhere different or familiar, the excitement of the atmosphere, visit some nearby sites, eat out, a few beers in a nice bar, shopping in the local market/centre, meeting up with old friends. Putting money across the counter, may be a thing of the past in a sterile future

Excellent post. Couldn't agree more.

I suspect of this net zero nonsense goes ahead the only one’s to suffer will be the working class, because that’s who’ll lose their runabout and freedom…. and driving will become the property of those who can afford those nice shiny expensive electric cars….we’ll get the bus and your world will be limited to where the bus can take you.
I suspect also with all the carry on about the pollution of air travel that’ll be next for restricting to the plebs….
All governments for some unfathomable reason pander to minority political groups, they seem to fear them more than the electorate. The police’s handling of these arrogant chanting ‘Just Stop Oil’ zombies defies belief, you try the same tactics walking through the Park even and they’d sharp remove you …but these groups seem to have the respect of the police, or should that be those in power.

It's the same with AI. We keep getting told how AI will get rid of all the tedious jobs that people now have to do.

You know what? At the moment we pay people to do these jobs so they can afford to pay for their homes and feed and clothe themselves.

Once you've replaced all of these jobs with AI who is going to have money to pay for the services that these AI bots provide?

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‘Tedious jobs’ what a joke’. ….. like you say we did it for the money.
However I heard a discussion on AI on the radio about giving everyone a wage to live on for not working… trouble is when you’re paid to do no work you end up being in the grip of the government and suddenly you are getting grown up pocket money..you’re stuck where they want you and everything will done at their whim.
When they do get rid of cash you’ll be completely in their grip and know everything you know by what you pay or buy and barter will return.

Like Klaus Schwab said " be happy with nothing " and that's exactly what is going to happen in next few years while the sheeple sleep.

Evening Chaps -

I reckon it's all a bit of a shitshow.
They won't ban petrol / diesel cars anytime soon. That's simply because of the tax take. Bit like cigarettes - if everybody stopped overnight and didn't buy another packet once they'd finished their current pack- the government would shit themselves
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Like all these things when introduced - they say that not only is it greener but CHEAPER to run. No way will they be cheaper to run once Petrol and diesel are done.

Whilst I'm not Tony Blair's biggest fan, he came out with a great point last week, where he basically said that until the Yanks (cowboys) & Indians, and Chinese take it seriously -doesn't really matter what we do, will have a negligible impact on the bigger picture

Given my location away from HQ and family, there is no way I'm going to be buying an electric car anytime soon.
Firstly the prices are astronomical
Secondly, I do not wish to be sat in heavy traffic on the A1, shitting myself that I'm going to run out of charge.
Thirdly, having to sit for half hour plus whilst it charges assuming it's not busy or broken and I actually made it to the services in the first place.

As for a cashless society/AI - I find that really quite scary - imagine the embarrassment of being refused to buy a Mars bar- as the medical records have flagged you up as being a bit of a fat knacker?! Every transaction traceable

When you run out of petrol you can get the ‘Jerry can’ out of the back and fill it up and you’re away, until they invent a Jerry can for electricity , which they obviously can’t, they really are useless in my eyes.
As for being cheaper to run, all these things are sold as being cheaper to run until enough mugs buy them …then you’ll find there’ll be an extra levy on electricity charging for cars….a new form of fuel duty.
They’re just transport for the gullible.

The constant theme of the just stop oil cult is that we should set an example to the World and the ‘World’ will follow our example, are they stupid?
They talk like it’s the 19th Century and the Empire was flourishing and we’d send a gunboat if you don’t listen to us.
I don’t see why these ‘martyrs’ can’t travel to China or India as latter day ‘green missionary’s’ and convert the locals……see how long they last

yes, its up to everyone to wake up from their big sleep, stick together and revolt. the rights we all have at the moment were fought for by our ansestors and were not given to them on a plate. if the vast majority of people wanted all this grren crap and changes to our lives then all well and good. we would have to follow but this is not the case. if we do not want a cashless society we all need to use cash at every opportunity. anything else you are against then do the opposite. they,ll soon get the message and might slow their agenda up.

You could not make this sh*t up... Henry Kissinger made a speech at the WHO back in feb 2009.
" Once the herd accepts mandatory forcible vaccination, its game over. They will accept anything - forcible blood or organ donation - for the 'greater good'. We can genetically modify children and sterilise them - for the 'greater good'. Control sheep minds and you control the herd. Vaccine makers stand to make billions, and many of you in this room today are investors. Its big win - win! We thin out the herd and the herd pays us for providing extermination services. Now whats for lunch? "

You won't get very far fuelling your car on vaccines. Also quite expensive.

Was replying to accrington not you. If you want to take the piss thats up to you but this is a serious situation for everyone.

Oh I know, I was following what was being said. Seemed logical. Climate change.... yeah, reduce emissions.... yeah...... everyone has to spend 60k on an EV and a heat pump that we haven't worked out how we're gonna supply power to yet..... errrr no thanks!

But then we ended up of vaccines. Weird.

Sorry for my little rant
Total respect to you pooly-imp

It’s like the ULEZ carry on, the only people unaffected are the reasonably well off because they can meet the criteria, if they’re that bothered why don’t they just ban private cars all together.
They won’t because what they consider the influencers and comfortably off have to be humoured…. The ‘poor bloody infantry’ will pay the price.

No worries. I don't want to take the lid off the vaccine thing. I'll just respect your opinion. Too little of that around these days.