another one

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6680

Rumour that is:

Apparently Anthony Mancini signed over the weekend & Euan Murrey/ Brody Patterson are both joing Raith Rovers.

Lets see.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Hope you are right, Mr Grayhounded.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

Really good news if true, shipping out is as important as bringing in with some of the players we’ve been left with

Interesting Askey saying being patient important as the transfer window not shutting , I think we may see a slow start and the squad building out into September

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36399

That squad building will go on over the entire season I suspect.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18928

Snowy wrote:

That squad building will go on over the entire season I suspect.

as long as there are no theo robinsons and leon clarkes coming in because they cannot get fixed up anywhere else. we can also lose players JA might want to keep without the transfer window. its a bit of a double edged sword.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3941

Can't see Askey signing anyone who will not be capable of challenging for a shirt.
Comings and goings are pretty good so far, still look a bit short on pace and width to me but I'm happy enough so far.
And regardless of what anyone thinks of Raj, it doesn't look as if we're in the bargain basement, so he's backing his manager again.

Johnjo1 · **Joined:** Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:52 pm **Posts:** 1625

Murray gone by mutual consent

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:12 am

Yeh i heard Mancini signed on too - i think everyone i spoke to post game Friday said the same thing... he was good etc need to get him signed up.

Paterson also set to leave but weird that he played friday knowing he was off ? maybe not so straight forwards that one

id imagine JA has a CB whom he wants to sign now

id agree its going to be a building process and i think our strongest core 11 will suffice till maybe xmas then we will see the odd player come in once injuries kick in etc...

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6680

Eiphos_3 wrote:

Yeh i heard Mancini signed on too - i think everyone i spoke to post game Friday said the same thing... he was good etc need to get him signed up.

Paterson also set to leave but weird that he played friday knowing he was off ? maybe not so straight forwards that one

id imagine JA has a CB whom he wants to sign now

id agree its going to be a building process and i think our strongest core 11 will suffice till maybe xmas then we will see the odd player come in once injuries kick in etc...

Any news on the takeover front.

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1271

Onariase signs from Daggers. Was solid for Scunthorpe & Dagenham (in his first stint there) - lost form last season though. Will have been on decent money at D&R so must be pushing for a starting berth for us. A south Londoner making his way to Hartlepool, interesting one.

Talk on the takeover has gone very quiet, some folk seemed adamant this weekend or today was the day - doesn't sound imminent.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8924

thebigdog wrote:

Onariase signs from Daggers. Was solid for Scunthorpe & Dagenham (in his first stint there) - lost form last season though. Will have been on decent money at D&R so must be pushing for a starting berth for us. A south Londoner making his way to Hartlepool, interesting one.

Talk on the takeover has gone very quiet, some folk seemed adamant this weekend or today was the day - doesn't sound imminent.

Still 13 hours left.

keep the faith.

SpongeBob · **Joined:** Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:08 pm **Posts:** 140

thebigdog wrote:

A south Londoner making his way to Hartlepool, interesting one.

His wife is from up North apparently

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5383

thebigdog wrote:

Onariase signs from Daggers. Was solid for Scunthorpe & Dagenham (in his first stint there) - lost form last season though. Will have been on decent money at D&R so must be pushing for a starting berth for us. A south Londoner making his way to Hartlepool, interesting one.

He had 36 starts for the Daggers last season so 'losing form' must be a relative concept - and they finished just outside the play off places.

The biggest problem is he's the second Emmanuel to join us so only one of them can go by 'Mani.' Wonder how the squad and the fans will cope with that? Neither Onariase nor Diesurevwe lend themselves to abbreviation

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5383

Murray agreed to terminate his contract and go back up to Scotland for 'personal reasons.' Given that he was allegedly on a big wage he's done Pools a favour.

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1271

Flying Hogans wrote:

thebigdog wrote:

Onariase signs from Daggers. Was solid for Scunthorpe & Dagenham (in his first stint there) - lost form last season though. Will have been on decent money at D&R so must be pushing for a starting berth for us. A south Londoner making his way to Hartlepool, interesting one.

He had 36 starts for the Daggers last season so 'losing form' must be a relative concept - and they finished just outside the play off places.

The biggest problem is he's the second Emmanuel to join us so only one of them can go by 'Mani.' Wonder how the squad and the fans will cope with that? Neither Onariase nor Diesurevwe lend themselves to abbreviation

By his standards vs his first stint with Dagenham, didn't quite live up to those heights second time around. His stats from last season are impressive though - duels won & pass completion %.

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:33 pm

He looked decent for scunny when we played them!

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Grayhoundend wrote:

Rumour that is:

Apparently Anthony Mancini signed over the weekend & Euan Murrey/ Brody Patterson are both joing Raith Rovers.

Lets see.

Any update on Mancini signing

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7078

Flying Hogans wrote:

Murray agreed to terminate his contract and go back up to Scotland for 'personal reasons.' Given that he was allegedly on a big wage he's done Pools a favour.

I can’t see Hastie doing the same unless they offer him a big pay off or Askey sees a player in him, I am sure Askey will have dropped enough hints if he doesn’t figure in his plans.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6680

Emmanuel Onariase:

This is what a Daggers fan on another forum had to say.

"Another big earner gone, hopefully will make some more signings now.
Manny is a very good central defender for this level, needs the right manager and he’s back up north which will keep his Mrs happy"

His contract was cancelled by mutual consent, Wonder how much that cost us.

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:39 pm

Goffy back in the town this weekend - but im hearing now that its not Goffy nor his money with the takeover bid. However i believe hes still linked and has brought the multi millionaires from the states to the table.

with the lads up Bonny Jockland not hearing much else tbh.

again just hearing Mancini had signed but the same source also was clueless about Mani O signing today so god knows

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7078

Eiphos_3 wrote:

Goffy back in the town this weekend - but im hearing now that its not Goffy nor his money with the takeover bid. However i believe hes still linked and has brought the multi millionaires from the states to the table.

with the lads up Bonny Jockland not hearing much else tbh.

again just hearing Mancini had signed but the same source also was clueless about Mani O signing today so god knows

I doubt very Gough would have even a quarter of the money Singh wants for the club by no means anywhere near a millionaire.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8924

Jamie1952 wrote:

Eiphos_3 wrote:

Goffy back in the town this weekend - but im hearing now that its not Goffy nor his money with the takeover bid. However i believe hes still linked and has brought the multi millionaires from the states to the table.

with the lads up Bonny Jockland not hearing much else tbh.

again just hearing Mancini had signed but the same source also was clueless about Mani O signing today so god knows

I doubt very Gough would have even a quarter of the money Singh wants for the club by no means anywhere near a millionaire.

A few quid short of Deadpool stars.
And look what happened there.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36399

Jamie1952 wrote:

Eiphos_3 wrote:

Goffy back in the town this weekend - but im hearing now that its not Goffy nor his money with the takeover bid. However i believe hes still linked and has brought the multi millionaires from the states to the table.

with the lads up Bonny Jockland not hearing much else tbh.

again just hearing Mancini had signed but the same source also was clueless about Mani O signing today so god knows

I doubt very Gough would have even a quarter of the money Singh wants for the club by no means anywhere near a millionaire.

Have to agree….. nice diversion though.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3941

Be very surprised if he's not a millionaire, doubt he'll have millions of spare cash to invest in a football club though

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36399

PTID wrote:

Be very surprised if he's not a millionaire, doubt he'll have millions of spare cash to invest in a football club though

Investing in a football club is by far the quickest way to dispose of your money, make enemies and depress you, known to mankind. :laugh:

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3941

They say it's one of the easiest ways to make a small fortune - starting with a big fortune.
Although I think the likes of the Glazers and Mike Ashley will have made plenty of money.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7078

PTID wrote:

Be very surprised if he's not a millionaire, doubt he'll have millions of spare cash to invest in a football club though

Nowhere near a millionaire,
https://companycheck.co.uk/company/0610 ... house-data

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18928

thebigdog wrote:

Talk on the takeover has gone very quiet, some folk seemed adamant this weekend or today was the day - doesn't sound imminent.

something im, not too excited about. no news could be good news in the end. one subject that my glass is broken about as my expectations are low.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Still no news on Mancini. I presume the source of the rumour about him being signed over the weekend was mistaken. Perhaps an offer was made but wasn't enough for the lad? After all, he has just left a League One club so may have been shocked by the diffrence in wages. Who knows.

SpongeBob · **Joined:** Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:08 pm **Posts:** 140

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Still no news on Mancini. I presume the source of the rumour about him being signed over the weekend was mistaken. Perhaps an offer was made but wasn't enough for the lad? After all, he has just left a League One club so may have been shocked by the diffrence in wages. Who knows.

He was a free agent having never kicked a ball professionally in England and signed for Accrington in Feb playing twice, mega bucks the kid is not.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18928

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Still no news on Mancini. I presume the source of the rumour about him being signed over the weekend was mistaken. Perhaps an offer was made but wasn't enough for the lad? After all, he has just left a League One club so may have been shocked by the diffrence in wages. Who knows.

on top of that he was coming from a premier league club burnley as an under 23 player. he would not be using food banks or driving a 30 year old corsa held together with body filler after coming from them. can understand him waiting a few days just in case he gets a better offer from a league club. thats the problem with trialists as you put them in the shop window for others.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

SpongeBob wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Still no news on Mancini. I presume the source of the rumour about him being signed over the weekend was mistaken. Perhaps an offer was made but wasn't enough for the lad? After all, he has just left a League One club so may have been shocked by the diffrence in wages. Who knows.

He was a free agent having never kicked a ball professionally in England and signed for Accrington in Feb playing twice, mega bucks the kid is not.

I dont think he was on mega bucks but was probably on a League One wage which would be higher than Pools are prepared to offer at the moment. He made three starts for Stanley, so he did kick a ball professionally.

SpongeBob · **Joined:** Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:08 pm **Posts:** 140

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

SpongeBob wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Still no news on Mancini. I presume the source of the rumour about him being signed over the weekend was mistaken. Perhaps an offer was made but wasn't enough for the lad? After all, he has just left a League One club so may have been shocked by the diffrence in wages. Who knows.

He was a free agent having never kicked a ball professionally in England and signed for Accrington in Feb playing twice, mega bucks the kid is not.

I dont think he was on mega bucks but was probably on a League One wage which would be higher than Pools are prepared to offer at the moment. He made three starts for Stanley, so he did kick a ball professionally.

Re read what I said, he WAS a free agent having never kicked a ball professionally in England, THEN signed for Accrington playing in two league games, an hour in each.

Players without clubs, trialling in non league, two weeks (and a bit) before the season starts aren't going to be demanding a kings ransom, let's be realistic.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5383

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Still no news on Mancini. I presume the source of the rumour about him being signed over the weekend was mistaken. Perhaps an offer was made but wasn't enough for the lad? After all, he has just left a League One club so may have been shocked by the diffrence in wages. Who knows.

You start with two statements of fact, then wander into the realms of speculation. A lad with a grand total of 124 minutes of experience of men's football is out of our price range?

You should know by now that most rumours are the purest dog shite. It's far more likely that Pools haven't offered him anything yet. Maybe if he's still with us on Saturday Askey will give him a full 90 minutes against Blyth Spartans to show what he can do, rather than a half. Who knows?

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 587

Fairly certain that contract demands are discussed with trialists before they're brought in on trial. Could just be a case of people jumping the gun.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3941

Jamie it's Goffy Media not the physio, so wrong company I think

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7078

Wether it’s Goffy media or Goffy physio neither are millionaires or anywhere near being millionaires, one of them maybe acting as a mediator and I suspect it would be young Goffy as he has worked in the States and might have connections there.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Flying Hogans wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Still no news on Mancini. I presume the source of the rumour about him being signed over the weekend was mistaken. Perhaps an offer was made but wasn't enough for the lad? After all, he has just left a League One club so may have been shocked by the diffrence in wages. Who knows.

You start with two statements of fact, then wander into the realms of speculation. A lad with a grand total of 124 minutes of experience of men's football is out of our price range?

You should know by now that most rumours are the purest dog shite. It's far more likely that Pools haven't offered him anything yet. Maybe if he's still with us on Saturday Askey will give him a full 90 minutes against Blyth Spartans to show what he can do, rather than a half. Who knows?

Just to be crystal clear. I am in no way suggesting he is demanding an unusually high wage. My point is that if and only if Pools have offered him a deal (they might not have done its only a rumour) maybe the potential offer was less than he was hoping for because he was on the pay roll of a League One team even though he was a youngster (with at that time, no league experience) so would not be a top earner. Pools dont have limitless resources and he is a relatively untried young player so it seems likely a modest, some would say sensible, offer was made which perhaps was not quite enough for the lad. So in summary, I am in no way suggesting he was making an unreasonable demand but simply IF an offer was made it may not have been enough. Hope this helps.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3941

Wether it's Goffy Media or Physio neither are millionaires? Must be fact then cos you said it???
You won't find anyone's worth on Companies House.
Plenty of people in Hartlepool will be millionaires if you add up all their assets, what's an average 3 bed detached worth for a starting point, add on a decent pension pot, etc

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:01 pm

using companies house to value someones networth is a total waste of time - if anything that thing will show as someone or something trying to be less valuable than it actually is due to tax purposes.

true wealth is stealth for the proper rich - hence why its sometimes difficult for Raj when hes asking these dreamers for proof of funds.

its all hidden away or in property etc... hell the average offshore worker now a days is a millionaire on paper with their exotic watch collections and houses they cant afford

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 587

Jamie1952 wrote:

Wether it’s Goffy media or Goffy physio neither are millionaires or anywhere near being millionaires, one of them maybe acting as a mediator and I suspect it would be young Goffy as he has worked in the States and might have connections there.

Try PAG estates and Paul Gough Holdings on companies house

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18928

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

[

Just to be crystal clear. I am in no way suggesting he is demanding an unusually high wage. My point is that if and only if Pools have offered him a deal (they might not have done its only a rumour) maybe the potential offer was less than he was hoping for because he was on the pay roll of a League One team even though he was a youngster (with at that time, no league experience) so would not be a top earner. Pools dont have limitless resources and he is a relatively untried young player so it seems likely a modest, some would say sensible, offer was made which perhaps was not quite enough for the lad. So in summary, I am in no way suggesting he was making an unreasonable demand but simply IF an offer was made it may not have been enough. Hope this helps.

its called negotiations. he wants X but pools only offer Y. the same thing might have gone on with every single signing we have made already but would have been out of our eyes as there was no friendly games back then. on another topic i mentioned words like its been a while getting the deal over the line. it could also be awhile before mancini signs on the dotted line for anyone. what he needs to think though is he could easily be on the long list of players unattached to a club come the start of the season if his agents demands are too excessive.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Did not suggest for one moment his wage demands were excessive but maybe the club are unwilling to pay what he is hoping for which may not be a great deal. Anyway, this may all be hot air because we dont really know if any kind of offer has been made in the first place, it is all rumour and speculation.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7078

Eiphos_3 wrote:

using companies house to value someones networth is a total waste of time - if anything that thing will show as someone or something trying to be less valuable than it actually is due to tax purposes.

true wealth is stealth for the proper rich - hence why its sometimes difficult for Raj when hes asking these dreamers for proof of funds.

its all hidden away or in property etc... hell the average offshore worker now a days is a millionaire on paper with their exotic watch collections and houses they cant afford

Where did you hear those fairytales, I worked offshore in the U.K. and abroad for years and I am nowhere near a millionaire nor even a quarter of a million , I don’t have Rolex watches or live in a mansion and none of my colleagues are either.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7078

Krampesh wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Wether it’s Goffy media or Goffy physio neither are millionaires or anywhere near being millionaires, one of them maybe acting as a mediator and I suspect it would be young Goffy as he has worked in the States and might have connections there.

Try PAG estates and Paul Gough Holdings on companies house

Looked a both, certainly doesn’t have the available funds to burn in Pools, might nearly be a millionaire on turnover but that’s all.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18928

Jamie1952 wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Wether it’s Goffy media or Goffy physio neither are millionaires or anywhere near being millionaires, one of them maybe acting as a mediator and I suspect it would be young Goffy as he has worked in the States and might have connections there.

Try PAG estates and Paul Gough Holdings on companies house

Looked a both, certainly doesn’t have the available funds to burn in Pools, might nearly be a millionaire on turnover but that’s all.

is that actually enough money to support pools or push them on.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7078

accrington fan wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Wether it’s Goffy media or Goffy physio neither are millionaires or anywhere near being millionaires, one of them maybe acting as a mediator and I suspect it would be young Goffy as he has worked in the States and might have connections there.

Try PAG estates and Paul Gough Holdings on companies house

Looked a both, certainly doesn’t have the available funds to burn in Pools, might nearly be a millionaire on turnover but that’s all.

is that actually enough money to support pools or push them on.

You need a couple of million to buy the club currently from Singh then the money to run the club, don’t forget IOR were subsidising Pools to a tune of million pounds a year albeit on paper with the ‘assistance’ of Larsen Oil and Gas.

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:10 pm

Jamie1952 wrote:

Eiphos_3 wrote:

using companies house to value someones networth is a total waste of time - if anything that thing will show as someone or something trying to be less valuable than it actually is due to tax purposes.

true wealth is stealth for the proper rich - hence why its sometimes difficult for Raj when hes asking these dreamers for proof of funds.

its all hidden away or in property etc... hell the average offshore worker now a days is a millionaire on paper with their exotic watch collections and houses they cant afford

Where did you hear those fairytales, I worked offshore in the U.K. and abroad for years and I am nowhere near a millionaire nor even a quarter of a million , I don’t have Rolex watches or live in a mansion and none of my colleagues are either.

apologies you may have missed the satoric nature of my comment... bbolt

i was implying most offshore workers think they are millionaires these days (well the 20 or so i know do anyways haha)

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7078

Eiphos_3 wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Eiphos_3 wrote:

using companies house to value someones networth is a total waste of time - if anything that thing will show as someone or something trying to be less valuable than it actually is due to tax purposes.

true wealth is stealth for the proper rich - hence why its sometimes difficult for Raj when hes asking these dreamers for proof of funds.

its all hidden away or in property etc... hell the average offshore worker now a days is a millionaire on paper with their exotic watch collections and houses they cant afford

Where did you hear those fairytales, I worked offshore in the U.K. and abroad for years and I am nowhere near a millionaire nor even a quarter of a million , I don’t have Rolex watches or live in a mansion and none of my colleagues are either.

apologies you may have missed the satoric nature of my comment... bbolt

i was implying most offshore workers think they are millionaires these days (well the 20 or so i know do anyways haha)

Offshore wages are similar to onshore wages now, difference is you get the time off albeit working 12/15 hours a day offshore with no premium rates for overtime.

another one

Gadgies online