A Tory MP on Sky TV saying Johnson was harshly treated by the committee, how can he say that, try telling that to people who couldn’t attend their loved ones funerals etc.makes my blood boil !
As well as the six gatherings the inquiry has focussed on, the committee has also commented on evidence of a further 16 gatherings at No 10 and at Chequers - the prime minister's country home - during the pandemic.

And the lying b*stard has raked in some £6 million since he left Downing Street last September.

There are those who hate Bojo and there are those who love him and never the twain shall meet. All the rhetoric, name calling, piss boiling or whatever isn't going to change any of that.
He's gone but the media will do their utmost to keep it going. Bye bye Boris.
The media will eventually tire of "Bojo limelight" and find someone else who they consider newsworthy enough to focus their attention on.
Are next season's fixtures out yet. Now that will be news worth reading.

That's nothing compared to what he'll get now that this little episode has concluded. As long as he doesn't get it from taxpayers like me and you, it doesn't bother me. If there are silly buggers willing to line his pockets then there's nothing to interest me there. Isn't that what ex PM's do anyway???

That's nothing compared to what he'll get now that this little episode has concluded. As long as he doesn't get it from taxpayers like me and you, it doesn't bother me. If there are silly buggers willing to line his pockets then there's nothing to interest me there. Isn't that what ex PM's do anyway???

Could even end up making a fillum about him, Billy Liar or Pinocchio

Nothing would surprise me where Bojo is concerned.

But he knows what a woman is.

To be fair, if mugs were offering ridiculous fees to speak would you turn it down…?
As long as I’m not paying for it through my taxes …. I don’t give a toss,.

I think the mugs will be the yanks, hasn’t Truss been in the States making speeches after her demise ?

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Not quite sure if demise is the right word, they always seem to land on their feet.

Looks like a Slob because he is a Slob.

Part of the "Old Etonians" Club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzYpqJiaUh8

Nearly put my foot through the TV, Mogg was saying the decision was wrong to make Harriet Harman the chairperson as she influenced the decision albeit the majority of the committee were Tories.

Apparently Harman has a history of personal attacks on Bojo and detests the sight of him, which prompted Moggsy to suggest that she would find it difficult to be impartial and should of recused herself, which is what Chris Bryant did. The Committee have said that in deciding what Bojo's punishment should be they took into account what he said in his resignation statement AFTER he had resigned as an MP and therefore outside their jurisdiction. They were tasked to investigate partygate and the deliberate misleading of Parliament and the punishment if found guilty of Bojo should be based purely on that. After finding out last week that the report had found against him Bojo resigned as an MP before he issued his tirade of criticism verging on abuse of the Committee. There is no defence against abuse and Bojo should have refrained from going down that route but that doesn't justify the Committee using their powers to react to it. They were there to judge whether he deliberately misled Parliament and nothing else. Their remit doesn't include revenge against criticism.
Aside from all that, one of the committee, Sir Bernard Jenkin, allegedly attended a party with his wife and friends to celebrate his wife's birthday while lockdown was in force. If true he should have recused himself from the committee.
There are things that are emerging slowly and it would not surprise me if legal action was forthcoming.
Originally I thought that's it, Bojo has been found guilty let's move on but there are doubts emerging in my mind that the charges of vindictiveness and overstepping the mark being directed towards the committee might have a bit of credence.
I'm sure a KC would drive a bus through it.
I've also discovered that up to now Bojo's legal team have already racked up a bill for £245,000, PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYER. Is that just the beginning I ask myself.
Although most of us would dearly wish an end to this, especially the probable escalation in costs, it is beginning to look like the beginning of a long running saga.
I bet Starmer is furious over Harman allowing her Committee to overstep the mark and introduce punishment beyond her remit. She should have insisted that they kept to the script. I have to admit that when her chairpersonship was announced I had misgivings.

Johnathan Pie.
https://youtu.be/H5znEigYYCw

Irrespective the Prime Minister of the U.K.lied to Parliament and the Queen and on the eve of Prince Philips funeral there was a party a Downing Street.
The royal family adhered strictly to UK Covid-19 regulations during the funeral of Prince Philip, who was laid to rest Saturday. As such, the Queen sat alone during the service to follow current restrictions.
The punishment does fit the ‘crime’ Johnson is a born liar, he couldn’t lie straight in bed, he even got sacked from the Times for lying.

That tirade of foul language is basically correct because Bojo has been found guilty of lying to Parliament but the stage has now shifted to the questioning of the integrity of the committee and whether two of the members should have actually been there. On top of that the committee have put themselves in the firing line by appearing to seek revenge for Bojo's criticisms of them.
Harman, as Chair, should have kept them to the script but critics of her are now saying she allowed her known hate of Bojo to cloud her judgement of understanding how far her remit allowed her to go.
Basically she's bollocksed it up, using Mr Pie's vernacular.
She has allowed the question of fairness and impartiality to be challenged.
Bojo resigned as an MP so he could say what he liked without recourse to Parliamentary procedure. He baited the committee into reacting and Harman failed to spot or consider that, resulting in her falling into the trap Bojo had set for her.
He accused the Committee of being vindictive and the committee have done their level best to prove him right. They had him by the short and curlies but couldn't resist to giving him one last kick.
Your Mr Pie hasn't stumbled across that yet.

Oh give over. It’s brexit revenge.

Committe chaired by the Labour publicity supreme elect with Hartman riding shotgun.

I give it no credence whatsoever, it’s a stitch up.

Than God I’m a floating voter.

The punishment is a bit extreme, however knowingly lying to Parliament on numerous occasions is what's done him not Remainders, Labourites, or any other conspirators.
The man shouldn't be anywhere near any seat of power at any level he's a complete f*ckwit who is only interested in himself and his mates.

I guess we disagree then.

I thought the big question is - WHY does he need legal representation?

He had to answer a few questions with basically a YES/NO answer.

I think it was a tad more than that. No politician on God's earth answers yes or no.
The big question is why would you appoint a bunch of politicians to decide whether another politician is lying, apart from the fact that they spend every waking day lying through their back teeth. They are professionals when it comes to lying.
Does anyone believe that if we get rid of the present lot we'll replace them with honest to goodness good guys who never tell a lie. Once upon a time there were three bears.

The rules state the chair has to be a member of the official opposition - ie from the Labour party. Harriet Harman was unanimously elected to the post in June 2022.
I don’t think any other member of the Labour Party would have done any different from Harman, Johnson certainly wasn’t the flavour of the month with the Labour Party, pay back time I think.

She has allowed the question of fairness and impartiality to be challenged ?
How can you be impartial with all the evidence, 6 breaches of Covid rules with photographic evidence and witness statements we know of plus more have come to light.It was revealed that on 18 May, the government provided the Privileges Committee with "new evidence relating to 16 gatherings at Number 10 and Chequers" without any prior notice. No apologies for repeating myself he blatantly lied and misled Parliament. Derwent I would love you to be the foreman of the jury if I was on trial.

Whenever the subject of Johnson comes up, some people start frothing at the mouth and their class instincts kick in….I was brought up in a Council house and as a Kid accompanied my nana to the Labour Hall for all the elections…. But, she drilled into me that no one was better than me and I equally was no better than anyone else…… because a chip on your shoulder about your own status or anybody else’s makes for a bitter life of resentment.
Mind you, she said ALL politicians were beggars on horseback with few exceptions

Bang to rights otherwise why didn't he just fight his cause rather than quitting.
MPs now seem to be more openly corrupt than ever, not sure if that's the case or simply because if the media coverage available.
Nowadays they are all about pleasing themselves and career progression, party loyalty, and lastly representing their constituents. Most have never had a real job or real life experience, never lived in their constituency and therefore have no affiliation with their constituents.

James OBrien take on Johnson,
https://youtu.be/mwnPwZG1Rno

His ex girlfriends take,
https://youtu.be/mIg7lDLwbRE

One of the worst parts is Johnson has put people forward for awards to be presented by the King or one of the Royal Family. Some of those people attended those parties whilst the Queen sat alone at Philips funeral, the list should be revoked for me.

You don’t think he lied then?

thats the truth anyway. it always gets a smile on my face when it is mentioned that he lied to parliament. how many do not or actually lie in parliament. then something thats actually worse, lying to your constituants. we are just voting fodder at the end of the day. not a jan of johnson in any way as he stands for something i detest, proper priveldege from day 1 but i can guess there are as bad as him around and possibly worse. one thing is that if he was broke today he,ll be a rich man by the end of the year without having to work for it.

before i started reading all this is when i saw the johnson name i thought we had signed ryan back.

You would probably change your mind as the noose was tightened around your neck.
Seriously though, impartiality is a requirement and if you can't do that you request to be recused, like Chris Bryant did. I don't make the rules, Parliament does. Also you stick to your remit and put your judgement in jeopardy if you move from it. Harman failed on both counts. I am not making excuses for Bojo's behaviour, nor am I saying he is not guilty as charged. I am questioning the right of Harman to widen her remit. He was not being tried for his outburst against the committee and yet the committee openly admitted to taken it into account when recommending sentence.
At your trial I would ask be recused if there was any history between us that could sway my judgement and as foreman I would remind fellow jurors of our collective duty to stick to our responsibility, thus getting you the fairest hearing as humanly possible, which is your right under law.
Remember Bojo swore an oath on the bible prior to his meeting with the committee to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so effectively he has also been found guilty of Perjury. I would find it very hard to put my hand on my heart and say that Harman was impartial but only she can truthfully answer that question and she and I are fellow members of the Labour Party.

Harman was chair not judge and jury, there were a majority of Tory MPs on the committee and they all voted for Brexit.
Boris is full of bluster and misdirection, claiming one of the committee members went to a party as well, total diversion by him as the committee were investigating his lying to Parliament not the parties ( social gatherings) which he was lying about. He would still be PM if he'd just owned up at the very outset rather than his prolonged denials and partial admissions but claiming ignorance.
Wonder how the Daily Mail circulation will fare?

And Harman as chair is responsible for making sure that she and her committee stick to their remit and not allow further distractions to influence them. They were there, as you rightly point out, to decide if Bojo deliberately misled Parliament and they found that he did but the punishment they requested took in Bojo's resignation rant, which they weren't entitled to do.
Do people still by the Mail??

Agree she should have made sure they stuck to their remit wrt the investigation and certainly they should only have punished him in respect of the lies. Any further contempt of Parliamentary process and Privilege was not this committee's remit.
Mind the 40 day ban they were going to recommend was long enough for BJ to erupt and resign. Personally I don't know anyone who gets a daily newspaper, never seen a paperboy or girl in ages in our street.

Think it was best summed up with a comment from a leading Tory;

If Boris fell head first down an open manhole he would still land on his feet.

He is at it again, anyone here buy the Daily Mail ?
Boris Johnson has committed a "clear breach" of the ministerial code by not clearing a new role writing a column for the Daily Mail with the Parliamentary authorities. The committee that vets ex-ministers' appointments says he informed them only half an hour before the news emerged.

Now has a "job" writing a column in the Daily Mail (one of his biggest supporters) And I expect he's being paid "peanuts" for it.

I thought he got sacked from The Times for lying but never mind there will be those frothing at the mouth to read his latest b*llsh*t and the circulation will go up in the thousands.

Sources say a million pound for a weekly column over and above the lifetime salary of £115000 for being PM yet the public paid £245000 for his legal fees.

Parliament has no dignity, no moral high ground it’s a yapping house on the the Thames, a Blatherskytes play pen.
What a to do over something as hypocritical as politicians lying to politicians and whose party was a party..the leaders of country usually fall over something more substantial , but the desperate grab at anything
You’ve got rid of your bogeyman, end of story , what he does out of office is none of our business now and that should apply to all politicians once they go…… unless your surname is Hitler or Stalln, etc….
What are you going to do, pursue him to the grave?
Get over it and move on

agree about moving on, but it will never sit right for people who see anyone getting the sack from one job only to do better financially due to it more or less overnight. he is more of a celebrity politician than one with real substance and this country loves a celebrity. if joe and adolph were both still around i,m sure both would get a platform here.

First of all I have never bought a copy of the Daily Mail in my entire life and I doubt if I ever will but I recognise that it's owners are businessmen who put circulation very high on their agenda.
Offering Bojo a job is something that doesn't surprise me. If it wasn't them it possibly would be another news organisation.
Whether Bojo will give them all the inside info that they would crave is a matter of speculation. There is such a thing as The Official Secrets Act.
I've no doubt that an autobiography will also turn up eventually.
If there are people out there prepared to pay him what we would call extraordinary remuneration then that is their choice. Bojo will play them like puppets and will eke every penny he possibly can. I wish somebody would value a column written by me as high as that but they don't, so that's that as they say.
Bojo thought he was invincible, some say that he thought he was above the law, that he was untouchable but he has found out that he is none of those things. He is obviously down but he's far from being out. If he can rise from this and subsequently earn untold riches then I'm not going to lambast him for that. Lying to Parliament is one thing but others being prepared to line his pockets is another. Don't forget that the people expected to rush out and buy the Rag are ordinary folk like you and me, with the exception that I won't be one of them. If the expected increase in circulation isn't forthcoming his unscrupulous employers will react accordingly. Whichever way it goes it
will hold very little interest from me.
But Bojo being Bojo I doubt he'll be short of a crust and he doesn't deserve kicking for that.

The thing that riles people is that he's a liar, a cheat, never been good at anything, and in fact has been sacked from almost every job he's had. And, like football managers, failures seem to just go from one highly overpaid position to another, whilst ordinary Joe grafts away, rarely getting a good break, merely to survive or live comfortably at best.
So it's easy to understand why people like Johnson, Thatcher, Cameron, Blair et al evoke such emotion.

do not forget those areas either that have a good local MP who has done a lot for the area they represent in a quiet manner who loses their seat because of what most votors find a vile leader of their party.

I havw tried to think of an individual MP who has done anything for their local area, decisions are made in Parliament, they decide where money is going to be spent.
How people voted for Mortimer thinking she would attract investment to the area, I am trying hard to count how many new jobs she has brought to Hartlepool ?

I think those types of MPs are few and far between nowadays, most modern day MPs seem to be History, Economic, Political, Law, graduates parachuted into a constituency they've never visited let alone lived in. The days of decent MPs going to London to represent their constituency have been replaced by politicians who toe the party line first and foremost.
Who was the last MP who ever tried to do anything meaningful for Hartlepool as far as I can remember is Ted Leadbitter!!

We haven’t had an MP since Leadbitter.
Labour used us as an ultra safe seat and the Tory’s knew it was a waste of time (although that Lib Dem lady gave Wrighty a close race)….we’ve been taken for granted.
I only voted for Mandelson for what he could do for the town…..bigger fool me

No matter how much i disliked Thatcher this crowd (BJ Mogg etc)are a threat to our country and democracy.
I hope he is pursued by the authorities and press until the day he is boxed up.

#UslessJill

I once had a game of Pool with Ted Leadbitter. Many many moons ago.

I once went to Middlesborough town hall with his son to see Chubby Brown after Ted had been given some free tickets and declined to attend for some reason .
We went to a bar called Norma Jeans which was close to where Sainsburys is now.
All the bar maids were topless.
It was a true night of culture.