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 Post subject: Nottingham attacks
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:52 pm 
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Anyone expecting the it to be a Methodist called Smith?

Both Ilkeston Road and Magdela Road are ram packed with a range of immigrants by the way.


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Funny how the police wont say anything about the killer other than he is a male in his 30s. The lefty press are showing only luke warm interest. Do you ever get the feeling you are being had?


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He’ll end up being described as having health ‘issues’ eventually and it’s always a case of “move along please, nothing to see here”. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Is this not a case for the return of Capital Punishment, clearly the fella is guilty ?


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Is this not a case for the return of Capital Punishment, clearly the fella is guilty ?

can i hear a bit of sarcasm creaping in here. its not people advocating a KKK riot, but surely everyone needs the full facts of this and any case to come out. this is a single incident we are talking about and not a slur on any community. there will be no cover up for sure, its just in this day and age the MSM find it uncomfortable talking about it and you get the impression they wish it had been someone from another race involved.


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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accrington fan wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Is this not a case for the return of Capital Punishment, clearly the fella is guilty ?

can i hear a bit of sarcasm creaping in here. its not people advocating a KKK riot, but surely everyone needs the full facts of this and any case to come out. this is a single incident we are talking about and not a slur on any community. there will be no cover up for sure, its just in this day and age the MSM find it uncomfortable talking about it and you get the impression they wish it had been someone from another race involved.


Full facts, the individual clearly murdered 3 people and attempted to murder 3 others with a van. Not a single incident, how many attacks like this have occurred over the years not including bombings ?


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Jamie1952 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Is this not a case for the return of Capital Punishment, clearly the fella is guilty ?

can i hear a bit of sarcasm creaping in here. its not people advocating a KKK riot, but surely everyone needs the full facts of this and any case to come out. this is a single incident we are talking about and not a slur on any community. there will be no cover up for sure, its just in this day and age the MSM find it uncomfortable talking about it and you get the impression they wish it had been someone from another race involved.


Full facts, the individual clearly murdered 3 people and attempted to murder 3 others with a van. Not a single incident, how many attacks like this have occurred over the years not including bombings ?

and i seriously doubt it will be the last this country has gone mad since the outbreak of covid in many respects and different fields with politicians doing an emperor nero impersanation on every corner in an attempt to appease the minority.


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Is this not a case for the return of Capital Punishment, clearly the fella is guilty ?


Right call Jamie - what about that bloke in police custody (think it was Croydon) where he shot and killed the custody officer with a gun hidden on him whilst still being handcuffed.

He should have been taken outside and shot with his own gun (making sure he was dead), We don't want ar*eholes like him in this Country.


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Critical Thinking wrote:
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Is this not a case for the return of Capital Punishment, clearly the fella is guilty ?


Right call Jamie - what about that bloke in police custody (think it was Croydon) where he shot and killed the custody officer with a gun hidden on him whilst still being handcuffed.

He should have been taken outside and shot with his own gun (making sure he was dead), We don't want ar*eholes like him in this Country.

i,ll go with that or any other murderers where there are independant witnesses there. otherwise i,d rather see 1,000 banged up than a single person hung who was later found innocent. its not as if that has never happened.


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The worst part is the media keeping a suspiciously low profile.

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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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accrington fan wrote:
Critical Thinking wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Is this not a case for the return of Capital Punishment, clearly the fella is guilty ?


Right call Jamie - what about that bloke in police custody (think it was Croydon) where he shot and killed the custody officer with a gun hidden on him whilst still being handcuffed.

He should have been taken outside and shot with his own gun (making sure he was dead), We don't want ar*eholes like him in this Country.

i,ll go with that or any other murderers where there are independant witnesses there. otherwise i,d rather see 1,000 banged up than a single person hung who was later found innocent. its not as if that has never happened.


I am referring to the fella from yesterday, why even have a trial he can’t actually say he isn’t guilty can he ?


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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I am referring to the fella from yesterday, why even have a trial he can’t actually say he isn’t guilty can he ?

know its the legal system, but how can anyone no matter how highly paid defend someone like him even if they plead guilty and make up mitigating circumstances.


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I am referring to the fella from yesterday, why even have a trial he can’t actually say he isn’t guilty can he ?

know its the legal system, but how can anyone no matter how highly paid defend someone like him even if they plead guilty and make up mitigating circumstances.


It’s all about money, plenty of lawyers will plead mitigating circumstances although I can’t figure out what they would, of course he will be on legal aid costing the tax payer thousands.I


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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I am referring to the fella from yesterday, why even have a trial he can’t actually say he isn’t guilty can he ?

know its the legal system, but how can anyone no matter how highly paid defend someone like him even if they plead guilty and make up mitigating circumstances.


It’s all about money, plenty of lawyers will plead mitigating circumstances although I can’t figure out what they would, of course he will be on legal aid costing the tax payer thousands.I


He'll have mental health problems and claim diminished responsibility.

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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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I am referring to the fella from yesterday, why even have a trial he can’t actually say he isn’t guilty can he ?

know its the legal system, but how can anyone no matter how highly paid defend someone like him even if they plead guilty and make up mitigating circumstances.


It’s all about money, plenty of lawyers will plead mitigating circumstances although I can’t figure out what they would, of course he will be on legal aid costing the tax payer thousands.I


He'll have mental health problems and claim diminished responsibility.

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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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accrington fan wrote:
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I am referring to the fella from yesterday, why even have a trial he can’t actually say he isn’t guilty can he ?

know its the legal system, but how can anyone no matter how highly paid defend someone like him even if they plead guilty and make up mitigating circumstances.

Oh they’ll have plenty of willing takers in the legal system ….. and keep a straight face throughout.

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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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West African Muslim. So that’s probably Nigeria and he was a practicing muslim. I’m so shocked.


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Don’t forget Black Lives Matter or so they keep telling us or is it just when niggers are the victim.


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Don’t forget Black Lives Matter or so they keep telling us or is it just when niggers are the victim.

well they do especially when they are career criminals giving a shopkeeper a dud note and drugged up.


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Don’t forget Black Lives Matter or so they keep telling us or is it just when niggers are the victim.


If the colours were reversed it would be WW3 breaking out. banghead

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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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Don’t forget Black Lives Matter or so they keep telling us or is it just when niggers are the victim.


If the colours were reversed it would be WW3 breaking out. banghead

Especially after the bbc made a three hour in depth documentary about it with tears shed that would flood the nearby trent and peoples you tube accounts being suspended for taking up the opposite line on the subject. remember who are your true friends.


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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accrington fan wrote:
Hartleblue wrote:
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Don’t forget Black Lives Matter or so they keep telling us or is it just when niggers are the victim.


If the colours were reversed it would be WW3 breaking out. banghead

Especially after the bbc made a three hour in depth documentary about it with tears shed that would flood the nearby trent and peoples you tube accounts being suspended for taking up the opposite line on the subject. remember who are your true friends.



It was amazing after that incident how many black news presenter and reporters suddenly appeared on the BBC.We have a minority of black people, LGBT+, Muslims people etc but you can’t criticise them for fear of being ridiculed or even prosecuted.


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It was amazing after that incident how many black news presenter and reporters suddenly appeared on the BBC.We have a minority of black people, LGBT+, Muslims people etc but you can’t criticise them for fear of being ridiculed or even prosecuted.

being a poolie can we all claim to be part of a minority that have suffered over many generations and take others to court if and when they take the piss out of us. surely we need better representation on the MSM especially after proving our great great grandad suffered bullying at richardson and westgarths.


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On the news this morning the revision has started as one commentator seemed to be making the perpetrator a victim and highlighting his ‘issues’….knew mental health would kick in somewhere but even the police are describing it as a ‘one off’….pity these ‘one offs’ are coming along regularly like buses….and all appear to have ‘issues’.

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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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On the news this morning the revision has started as one commentator seemed to be making the perpetrator a victim and highlighting his ‘issues’….knew mental health would kick in somewhere but even the police are describing it as a ‘one off’….pity these ‘one offs’ are coming along regularly like buses….and all appear to have ‘issues’.

it is a one off because it will not happen in the same place in the same city. there will be another one off somewhere else. as you say add em all together and you have a problem but it gets denied. if mental health is as big a problem they are now making out surely its time we re open the places or build new ones like we used to have for their treatment. better than allowing em to roam the streets to cause any havoc they wish just to appease the do gooders. its a pity that the do gooders themselves seem never the ones that suffer the backlash of any actions themselves as they might get their brains working properly themselves.


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Why don't they ever say they're just nasty bastads who become worse when they're coming down off the drugs and drink. sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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It's very frustrating to see that rather any form of sympathy to the victims, their families or a city in mourning the general public appear to be using it as a platform to beat migrants with sticks.

It's been an emotional week, I've felt a lot of them myself. None of them have been hatred towards anybody who was not behind the wheel of a van or plunging a knife into two innocent kids in our city.

It's not really about whether he was black white (or Portuguese) or whether he was well or mentally ill, it's about two sets of parents grieving the senseless loss of their babies and sons mourning the loss of their dad.


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So what is your reaction to the perpetrator of this outrage….?

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My reaction to a guy running around the city putting knives into innocent kids and grandad is outrage as you've said. It's much the same as my reaction to the other triple murderer currently on trial in Nottingham. A white lad who burned out a family of three Gambian migrants, torching a mother and two babies to death.

I am not more or less outraged by the fact that he wasn't born in Nottingham, where he'd come from, what his passport says or what colour his skin was.

I'm outraged by the fact his acts were evil and the pain and fear he's caused the people who I live and work alongside.


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My reaction to a guy running around the city putting knives into innocent kids and grandad is outrage as you've said. It's much the same as my reaction to the other triple murderer currently on trial in Nottingham. A white lad who burned out a family of three Gambian migrants, torching a mother and two babies to death.

I am not more or less outraged by the fact that he wasn't born in Nottingham, where he'd come from, what his passport says or what colour his skin was.

I'm outraged by the fact his acts were evil and the pain and fear he's caused the people who I live and work alongside.


I agree, but I didn’t assume his actions were racist in the first place as it happens, all too odd for me…….so your need to highlight a reverse racist attack doesn’t help the situation because as it can easily be misconstrued as justifying such actions….. that doesn’t help.

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The first post in this thread references migrants.
There's then posts about him being West African and Muslim, hence the point I was trying to make.

Nobody is trying to justify anything, I'm devastated by what has happened, it's horrendous and outrageous what I didn't want to happen was the focus to be on anger towards people who didn't actually commit the crime.


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Pools-on-trent wrote:
The first post in this thread references migrants.
There's then posts about him being West African and Muslim, hence the point I was trying to make.

Nobody is trying to justify anything, I'm devastated by what has happened, it's horrendous and outrageous what I didn't want to happen was the focus to be on anger towards people who didn't actually commit the crime.

go back in time you will always find the total innocent tarred with the same brush as the guilty. WW 1 saw german businesses smashed just because the owners were german or from german decent. everyone generalises on a single individual. when the facts are the majority of crimes are committed by a minority of a certain race where violence is concerned how do you expect people to react. if only there was an equal playing field in the media where every crime like this is reported the same it would go a little way to calm people down. afraid those who have died and their close families get lost in all this.


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How frightened are Senior Police officers. Notts police have referred themselves to independent Office for Police Conduct because a marked police car followed the van a.short while before it hit the two people.
After the two recent events when idiots got killed racing away on motor bikes from police it just makes you wonder what’s it coming to.


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senior police officers seem to have to appease every section of the country now instead of the majority. being employed by mayors and other ameteurs does not help.


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I am no lover of the Police but they are constantly under scrutiny from the Bobby on the beat to the man at the top, they can’t do right from wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Nottingham attacks
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I am no lover of the Police but they are constantly under scrutiny from the Bobby on the beat to the man at the top, they can’t do right from wrong.

and who could really blame them if they went through their shift doing as little as possible and turning the corner of the street if they saw something happening. catch em there is bound to be some scuffle where they are accused of brutality. chase em in a car, the car has an accident and those inside are killed. next thing is an enquiry where they have to give evidence and grilled for just doing what they are paid to do. there are real wrong uns in the job as we all have seen over the years but the wrong uns will be around in the armed forces as well. with the instructions they get from the top they are the ones whose hands are tied when it suits their leaders.


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