Over 600 people crossed the Channel, in 12 boats, on Sunday and our PM reckons his policy of reducing the numbers is working. What planet does this to**er live on?

He states that the number of Albanian migrants has been reduced by 90%, how the f*ck does he know when I doubt any of the people carry any identity let alone passports to reveal the country they came from.

There are genuine migrants, no doubt, but the vast majority are not and some drastic action is needed, more so with this fine weather allowing the opportunity to make a "safer" crossing.

ly one of the few blokes who would need a workshop manual just to become a to..er. unless you are a lefty you must be sick of it all. just wonder if those who do arrive by legal means will have a bigger chance of being sent back home and their applications are looked at quicker for this to happen. two questions that never seem to be asked is have you got a job to go to and can you financial support yourself financially for at least a year. if they can prove that to be a yes then fine otherwise its the next boat back.

Trouble with news is who,s writing it, Bit like history really unles you were actually there.

So the French coastguard never caught site of 12 boats which must have been a substantial size, don’t they have radar or regular helicopter flights checking the coast. We have gave the French hundreds of millions of pounds over the years, I think they are buying boats with it !

We almost never deport anyone even if their claim is turned down. On the other hand we grant far more asylum claims than the French because our Civil Servants have a huge backlog to deal with so they are less exacting. Last year 750,000 legal migrants arrived in this country never mind the illegals. No wonder there is a housing shortage and the NHS is creaking at the seams.

Migrant leader letting loads of migrants in.
We not England anymore.
Crime rate rising rapidly.
If ya English in England now ya/we just peices of shit.
Only gunna get worse.

Albanians also a problem in Germany, however the percentage of Albanian refugees granted asylum in Germany is 0%…..we are granting 50%.
Don’t forget, every asylum case granted means the right to bring over dependants later.

The problem with that Mr Accy is there isn't a next boat back and if there was the French would just let them get another boat. The only winners are the smugglers, shoot them on sight is the only answer. Nobody is tough enough to take that route.

Some politician on TV last night said these people could be processed over in France and that would solve the problem…..Pure naivety, the ones turned down would just carry on using the boats again. Plus, migrants from all over Europe would be attracted to Calais like a magnet with a sob story.

Shouldn’t this be in the “Politics” forum?

Or maybe create a new one specifically for xenophobia / racism, then make this forum only for footy?

Yeah of course it is clearly racist or xenophobic to not want the culture of your country to be overwhelmed by people who have no right to be here. Yeah miss out on the practicalities and head straight for the insults.

There's nothing to stop you making a new forum if that's what you want. People have a right to be concerned about what has happened/is happening with migration in their own backyard. That's not being xenophobic or racist. I would be more concerned about people who accuse others of xenophobia/racism at the drop of a hat.
No one is forced to read this forum or be a member of it. It is their choice. What is not an individual's choice is trying to isolate/eliminate the choice of others.
Personally I would shoot all human trafficking gangs on the spot as well as drug smugglers.
It's not political as far as I'm concerned. I read it as common sense.
Millions of pounds (maybe billions) is being spent on tackling these problems and the money could be better elsewhere. End Of.

It’s definitely nothing to do with Football.

No it is not but there have been, there are and probably always will be a myriad of topics on this forum and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. If anything gets out of hand then there are methods to deal with that. In the vast majority of cases things are sensible, moderate and respectful.
History will tell us that discussions on politics and/or religion should be frowned upon and, if it is noticed that those sort of topics get out of hand then the topic gets locked, which is very rare these days.
If you are only interested in football related topics Mr M then you either ignore all other topics or you go elsewhere to satisfy your footy fix.

A lot of things on here are nothing to do with football. I put some right bollocks on but that’s my choice.
You aren’t obliged to read topics you don’t approve of. … there’s some topics I find are not my cup of tea so I don’t get involved, but that’s my choice, let others get on with theirs.

Boris isn’t leader anymore, so I’m not sure how you can say he’s impacting the number or migrants.

The reality of this invasion is that a large proportion were members of ISIS up until a couple of years ago. It’s a military invasion nothing less. London has already fallen along with every town along the M62. The politicians do nothing but look for ways to massage the numbers. Sunak is a liar but Starmer won’t do any better. The only alternative is Reform but they have zero chance of gaining power. We’re fucked.

Careful Mr I- some might say you're starting to sound a bit like Enoch

"In 2022, around 16,000 Albanian citizens applied for asylum in the UK, making up 16% of all asylum applicants."

"Albanian small boat arrivals fell dramatically in the last quarter of 2022 and the first quarter of 2023 after a peak in the summer of 2022."

"In 2021 and 2022, almost half of UK initial decisions on Albanian asylum applications were positive."

"The UK’s initial decision grant rate for Albanian asylum applicants in 2022 was higher than most EU countries but comparable to the rates in Ireland and Germany."

"The UK’s asylum grant rate for Albanian asylum applicants is driven by women."

"In 2022, 12% of Albanian citizens arriving via small boat were referred to the UK’s modern slavery system."

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/r ... cent-data/

So absolutely correct re the UK granting 50% of asylum seekers a safe haven, but a little disingenuous on the Germans granting 0%. Italy took in a staggering 64%. BTW of our 50%, 88% were women.

It is a big problem no doubt, but nobody, especially politicians are coming up with any sensible solutions.
A system that approves or rejects claimants quickly and efficiently would mean employing more people, it would help but not solve the problem. People then moan it will cost too much money, but look what it's costing now, it's unsustainable.

I can simplify that for you; reject each and ever last one that arrive from France on the basis that it’s a safe country. Well it was at least until they started arriving.

The 0% is the latest position in Germany and Albania while at the bottom of Europe’s prosperity is not a war zone….. .!
I have no problem with legal migration for those whose services we need or genuine asylum seekers, , but the very idea of jumping the queue by illegal entry tells me these people don’t have a legal basis for entry especially considering the cost they pay.
This is unsustainable.To travel across the entire continent of Europe through what I could happily define as a very civilised and benign continent to come to the UK begs the question why?

put your own point of view on the subject then. you must have some interest in it as you would not have read this topic to start with. there are stuff that does not interest me like anything alcohol or fancy food related but others are.

too late as this should have happened at the outset when they first came over in dribs and drabs. a sticking plaster could have been used then not like a major opperation thats needed now with what i see that little success will come of it. just cannot see any real wish for the vast majority of politicians to curb this even if the majority of their constituants wish it to happen. the big question is why.

Always said if the government had detained the first arrivals in secure accommodation and were actually treat as illegals, this wouldn’t have grown to the farcical state it is.

Probably wouldn’t have made any difference as the secure accommodation would be better than where most of them come from and we don’t have enough secure accommodation.
The other thing is it would have had the do gooders up in arms saying how inhumane we we were treating people.

not too sure about their poor accomodation where they came from. i could not afford the fees being charged if i was going in the opposite direction. is it a case of the rich only getting out and the ones who have a better case unable to afford it. Plenty of the uganda asians had plenty of money when amin kicked em out in the same way very rich jews got out with the rise of hitler quickly.

By the way a quick update following the 616 in 12 boats on Sunday, there were a further 545 in 11 boats on Monday!

Nice weather for crossing the channel isn't it?

What was the count for yesterday and what will it be for today?

It sure does boil one's pee.

They’ve come for a reason, usually money and stuck in detention permanently till their actual status is reached will deter most….throwing away their passports away as well as phones is an obvious sign you have something to hide.
We live in a country governed in all Party’s by naive middle aged students for the most part.

All well and good Snowy, great idea if we had built Detention Centres years ago but nobody thought we would have had the number of crossings we are having now.
We could set up portcabin cities with a wire fence round it but I am sure it would eventually be set on fire like some have been already.
Currently 132000 waiting to see if they can claim asylum, I would think it would be impossible to built Detention Centres to house them.
Nothing is going to deter these people no matter where you house them, some have travelled thousands of miles and paid thousands of pounds to get to the U.K. so a few months in a Detention Centre probably better accommodation than where they come from.is not going to put them off.

something needs to deter the majority of them arriving into europe as a whole. its not just us getting them its the whole of europe also. really a difficult task even if there was the will to do it. not oversure there actually is with loads more words than actions.

Hate to be crude, but try getting into Russia illegally, read up about illegal migrant workers there….firmness from the outset could have stopped this.

You can't even enjoy an ice-cream on the beach down here without somebody from a boat rushing past you .Seven hotels are full of them in the town and a few miles away in Bexhill they are refurbishing old Northeye prison for another 1200 by September, which hasn't gone down well with local residents as you can imagine.As for the over stretched NHS you'd be lucky to get one your teeth pulled out with the waiting lists..

Figures for yesterday, poor day for migrants;

204 from 4 boats

That makes it across 3 days - 1365 from 27 boats

We cannot sustain this, something has got to give!

And we have cluster bombs standing idle!

There are 110 million misplaced people in the world according to the United Nations Refugee Agency so we be getting a few more migrants.

If only Blair and Bush also Obama with his Arab spring idea had kept their noses out of the Middle East eh
Never happened under Gadaffi and Saddam

we have always come a close second to the wanks for shoving our noses into foreign affairs that have nothing to do with us. about time this country acts like what it is and not a world reforming super power that wants the world to follow it.

They must be running out of boats?

Wed 14th 45 Migrants in 1 boat
Thur 15th 172 Migrants in 3 boats

Just amazing

There are plenty of people coming from countries we didn't stick our noses into,we all know why they are coming here.
We just can't keep absorbing these numbers.

Aye the likes of Assad, the taliban,, Khamenei etc...
Thats why.

Surely the key to stopping the boat people is to close down the factories making the boats. No boats no channel crossings. The boats are said to be manufactured in Turkey. This means there is a long overland journey to the French coast ,passing through several countries . This indicates that these countries are turning a blind eye to this trade. They may of course be flown to France ,even so there must be paper work involved.I don’t normally believe in conspiracy theories but I am coming to the opinion that there is a secret agreement between countries , so that these migrants are spread around Europe and do not overburden one country.

Is that you ,Nigel ?... Eh , what's all this talk about you and Boris getting it together ??

Ever get the feeling that if it was 1940 with the Germans over the channel waiting to invade, they’d only have to get their troops and equipment half way acrosss and we’d have sent the Royal Navy and lifeboats out to ‘pick em up’.

“Hello, Adolf here, can you be so kind as to be in mid channel about 9am this morning as I’ve got an invasion fleet coming across and I don’t want to chance anyone getting wet so can you kindly supply some of those divine silver blankets as that channel can be a tiny bit chilly.
Oh, and when we get ashore would you be ever so kind as to transport my stormtroopers across the country, we can call them the garrison..or occupying forces. Thanking you in anticipation, ta ta for now”
Adolf.

How camp have I made Adolf sound

news came through the other day about the RNLI who operate the taxi service. whether its true or not they have said that donations to it has actually gone up since they assisted the illegals. honestly i have never met someone who has started donating and my in laws who live by the coast says there has been a real backlash there against the organisation. is this the middle class do gooding lefty,s again or money from abroad.

I accept the leftie-dominated media and the tree huggers using this fluffy word "migrant" to describe these people, but I am struggling to understand why it is being used on this thread.

They are NOT migrants, they are illegal immigrants. Simple as.

can look at it two ways. the definition of a migrant is a person going to a new country or place usually looking for work. a better description though than the ones who call em asylum seekers. with you about you calling them illegals as entering anywhere without prior permission is an illegal act for me and i am not interested in what some european court classes it. they are breaking into our country like someone who breaks into your house uninvited are criminals and should be given the same short shift.

They are illegal until it can be proved where they come from and are under threat of persecution, unfortunately most throw their ID in the sea so we don’t know where they come from.

you need mounds of paperwork and ID just to open a bank account even if you have lived in this country from birth. however you are welcomed into the country by many when you have none and destroyed the evidence. would interest me how the lefty do gooders would want russians treated who had escaped from the hands of vlad and rolled up on the north sea coast. doubt they,d be as warm hearted to them even if half were women and children.

New supply of boats found!

Friday 16th 486 found in 10 boats
Saturday 17th 374 found in 7 boats

God knows how many crossed the channel in these past 7 days but it has to be nearly 2500. It is now becoming just plain madness and cannot continue.