11 years surprised me as a sentence.

The headline says it was a 'TV gang'. That's probably hate speech and they should be able to appeal on that basis. I wonder if they will go to a male or female prison?

This Hartlepool fella was ‘lucky’ then, suspended jail sentence,
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/tees ... n-12699035

Just to prove that its dangerous to take on corporate greed. No one was hurt yet he got 11 years.

The amount of fraud allegedly committed during Covid by friends of MPs for the supply of PPE will be swept under the carpet.

Notice how Hancocks emails(covid) have suddenly dried up.

Surely these guys can appeal against the sentence it ridiculous.

I disagree, he made £7m through theft. They should also go after the people who resell this and the end users who paid them for it, as they were knowingly supporting criminal activity.

Everybody who votes in this country supports criminal activity.


Only a child would believe otherwise!

It started years ago with people getting their hands on fake Sky cards then the dodgy box and now the fire sticks. You can bet somebody will come up with another way to get round the extravagant fees Sky and Virgin charge.

Sky Virgin BT Amazon Netflix all ask ridiculous prices for their products, as proven by the likes of Sky when you tell them you're leaving and they'll immediately offer the same deal at about 40% discount, 60% can easily be achieved if you're prepared to haggle.
Plus they use every legal trick in the book to reduce taxes.
Although what they do is ok in the eyes of the law it is immoral in the extreme.
So do you break the law and stream using illegal means or support these corrupt organisations - ironically they'll say by illegal streaming you're supporting organised crime, they want you to support organised corruption instead. How much does the treasury (and therefore us) lose due to their not paying fair taxes.

No matter what they charge people will still pay the subscriptions, I know it won’t happen but every one should stop subscribing to Sky etc. I never have and never will do because of the cost and the damage they have done to football.

big businesses can always do this. i agree with bluestreak as the length of sentance seem excessive if you look at the ones handed out for whats for me more serious offences to individuals either through fraud and violence.

Its just theft. That's it.

Big business can afford highly lawyers or QCs.

Agreed,some of the lags on your wing doing time for armed robbery must be doing less,Fletch ?

Who is a greater risk to society these IPTV guys or off roaders or the scum who damaged the ambulance?
What will be the difference in sentences?

far less for the ambulance damagers i,d guess thats if they ever get found out.

If caught they will have been drink/drug fuelled, unemployed and from deprived homes and get community orders. Oh for approved schools and Borstal.

thank goodness we have not got those two institutions in the current climate. there would be so many showing interest and helping those inside them they,d be the ones who would end up being better off than the rest.

The difference is it’s easier to build a case against the IPTV guys and get a successful outcome, chasing after kids doesn’t get results or bring crime figures down even though they could be putting peoples lives at risk.

so you really mean that crime figures come before the main reason they are there in the first place. stopping and detecting all crime and preserving life and property.

There isn’t enough Police to detect and solve all crimes unfortunately, i believe nowadays if you report a certain type of crime all the Police might do is issue you with a crime number if an insurance claim is involved, they don’t even come and see you.

have the numbers of police actually declined over the years if you add PSO,in their numbers. is it that you never see em now unlike the old days and the new recruits not being the type they once were.

If you listen to Labour the Tories have done away with 20000 police since 2010, the Tories say they have recruited 20000 police, who do you believe ?
Police personnel can retire after 30 year’s service I believe, join up when you are 20 retire at 50 on full pension with a lumper then get a consultancy so not a bad career if you pick a decent area to work in.

Which is one of the biggest problems. There is a huge lack of experience in the Police force these days. Typically an older copper will get out asap due to the ridiculous levels of wokeness. I read recently that the average level of experience at the moment is three years.

lot of it is down to university education yet again with all the fast track promotions happening. someone just aint going to go through full time education till after their 21st birthday just to walk the beat or sit in a car all day. they end up with a pip on their shoulders in the mid 20,s but very few at that age have the ability to gain respect from the older blokes and are natural leaders. however since the end of national service and the cuts in service personell their are less to recruit from as the latter was their main source of recruitment in the past. then there is the look of many who are pushed to get to the average height and were specs as well. hardly a deterent to the naughty lads out there.

My niece rose rapidly through the ranks in the Police, university now a Chief Inspector and only 43 years old, it was frowned upon by the older Police as she gained her promotions through qualifications not experience.

mind you some of that is down to jealousy like a lot of promotions are. those not like that will also say its another box ticking exercise due to more boxes she and others can tick. whether its truth or many peoples expectations is that it seems now being non white, female and 3 years at university doing social studies gives you a big edge now over a white lad coming out of the army with three stripes on his shoulder after a few years to become a copper.