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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2023 5:42 pm 
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Had to go through to Egglestone Hall this afternoon and passing through Bishop Auckland saw unleaded petrol at £1.33p a litre….even the one horse garages out in the sticks were only charging £1.39 a litre so how come we’re paying £1.43 a litre when the bloody refineries are just a few miles down the road :angry-tappingfoot:

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Yes even during the worst it was 10 p cheaper....... So what's going on?

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It's always cheaper up there in woolly back country - was last summer an' all.


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I've noticed that too.
I pay £1.40 in Kettering and been up to the Hart of the Pool a couple of times in the last few weeks to visit my Mum and it's at least 5p more a litre which is an absolute scandal.
Particularly as it's the same firm selling it.. Normally fill up at Morrisons on Clarence Road on my way out of town as I like to pass by the Vic on my way back down Sarf, think I paid £1.45 last Wednesday. Paid £1.40 yesterday at Morrisons Kettering - a complete piss take. Surely it should be the same price at both.


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Any sane, reasonable person would expect the charge to be the same across the company’s outlets…do they charge different prices for a loaf of bread?
What infuriates me is that all the supermarkets are charging roughly the same price in Hartlepool…draw your own conclusions.

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The supermarkets have a monopoly in the town, crude oil is way below the price pre Ukraine conflict but the petrol prices don’t reflect that at the same time the oil giants are earning billions in profits.
It was saying on the box that food prices will soon start to fall again, I am constantly looking out the window for flying pigs !
There will be a lot of bums twitching with the interest rate going up again, it’s squeaky bum time for anyone on a fixed rate mortgage which is due to end.


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Any sane, reasonable person would expect the charge to be the same across the company’s outlets…do they charge different prices for a loaf of bread?
What infuriates me is that all the supermarkets are charging roughly the same price in Hartlepool…draw your own conclusions.

same here in keighley which is usually 1p cheaper than in hartlepool. then you travel 6 mile down the road to the outskirts of halifax and they charge 3p less and the esso independant 4p less. their excuse is transport costs from the oil cpm[panies.


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Everyone is still getting totally ripped off. Our fuel card price for diesel is currently £1.08.40 per litre, that slightly over £1.30 inc VAT. That’s on a not massive spend of around a grand a week.

So the petrol companies are charging around 20p more than they need to, which is around a tenner for an average car per fill up.


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Everyone is still getting totally ripped off. Our fuel card price for diesel is currently £1.08.40 per litre, that slightly over £1.30 inc VAT. That’s on a not massive spend of around a grand a week.

So the petrol companies are charging around 20p more than they need to, which is around a tenner for an average car per fill up.

its always been the same though and nobody in charge of the country has ever done anything about it. there is less chance now than ever a government will step in with the green agenda behind them. Once it has ever gone up it never goes back down to its original level no matter the costs to the provider. really in the beginning we are all to blame by buying cheaper supermarket fuel that ended with less outlets making it easier for them to keep the prices up as far as they can.


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accrington fan wrote:
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Everyone is still getting totally ripped off. Our fuel card price for diesel is currently £1.08.40 per litre, that slightly over £1.30 inc VAT. That’s on a not massive spend of around a grand a week.

So the petrol companies are charging around 20p more than they need to, which is around a tenner for an average car per fill up.

its always been the same though and nobody in charge of the country has ever done anything about it. there is less chance now than ever a government will step in with the green agenda behind them. Once it has ever gone up it never goes back down to its original level no matter the costs to the provider. really in the beginning we are all to blame by buying cheaper supermarket fuel that ended with less outlets making it easier for them to keep the prices up as far as they can.


That's classic monopoly practice, lower the prices until you kill off the opposition, and then you can charge what you like. Our local independently owned garage has been undercutting the supermarkets for months now, so the wheel is turning. Suppliers have tended to favour supermarkets to get their volume business but are now realising that their small independent customers, from whom they got more profitable business, were being sent to the wall, allowing the supermarkets to control the situation and therefore demand lower prices from the suppliers. Having woken up to what is going on, in front of their eyes, they are now supporting the small outlets again, hence these outlets are flourishing again, whilst giving Joe public a better deal. On top of that the supermarkets seem to be avoiding price wars amongst themselves, thus maximising their profits even further.
Supermarkets are sailing close to the wind of Government intervention but state intervention is usually frowned upon, probably because more corporate profits generate more revenue for the treasury.
And so it goes on.

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derwent wrote:
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Everyone is still getting totally ripped off. Our fuel card price for diesel is currently £1.08.40 per litre, that slightly over £1.30 inc VAT. That’s on a not massive spend of around a grand a week.

So the petrol companies are charging around 20p more than they need to, which is around a tenner for an average car per fill up.

its always been the same though and nobody in charge of the country has ever done anything about it. there is less chance now than ever a government will step in with the green agenda behind them. Once it has ever gone up it never goes back down to its original level no matter the costs to the provider. really in the beginning we are all to blame by buying cheaper supermarket fuel that ended with less outlets making it easier for them to keep the prices up as far as they can.


That's classic monopoly practice, lower the prices until you kill off the opposition, and then you can charge what you like. Our local independently owned garage has been undercutting the supermarkets for months now, so the wheel is turning. Suppliers have tended to favour supermarkets to get their volume business but are now realising that their small independent customers, from whom they got more profitable business, were being sent to the wall, allowing the supermarkets to control the situation and therefore demand lower prices from the suppliers. Having woken up to what is going on, in front of their eyes, they are now supporting the small outlets again, hence these outlets are flourishing again, whilst giving Joe public a better deal. On top of that the supermarkets seem to be avoiding price wars amongst themselves, thus maximising their profits even further.
Supermarkets are sailing close to the wind of Government intervention but state intervention is usually frowned upon, probably because more corporate profits generate more revenue for the treasury.
And so it goes on.


Not just petrol, supermarkets are always asking their suppliers to cut prices, they then threaten not buy from them, the supermarkets hold them to ransom.


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Ever get the feeling that businesses are trying to recoup their Covid losses and a lot more….?

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Snowy wrote:
Ever get the feeling that businesses are trying to recoup their Covid losses and a lot more….?


Definitely Snowy an airfare that used to be £450/500 can be over a £1000 plus now, the original excuse was the oil price then they couldn’t get staff as they had laid them of because of Covid. The fares haven’t come down although the oil price has dropped, I would have assumed the staff shortages have been sorted out, even searching months in advance the fares are not reducing, price gouging !


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Ever get the feeling that businesses are trying to recoup their Covid losses and a lot more….?


Definitely Snowy an airfare that used to be £450/500 can be over a £1000 plus now, the original excuse was the oil price then they couldn’t get staff as they had laid them of because of Covid. The fares haven’t come down although the oil price has dropped, I would have assumed the staff shortages have been sorted out, even searching months in advance the fares are not reducing, price gouging !

Air travel is going to take a battering with the onset of net zero demands as aircraft are vilified as great polluters by the eco warriors, talk of electric powered aircraft is a pipe dream.
The globalists will have us all never venturing out of our locality, bus and trains a rip off, cars unaffordable and overseas holidays history as aircraft are a no no, even ships are unacceptable…. You’ll end up with holidaying in Seaton or the Headland, with fish and chips history to placate the Vegans…..we’re going backwards.

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Snowy wrote:
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Ever get the feeling that businesses are trying to recoup their Covid losses and a lot more….?


Definitely Snowy an airfare that used to be £450/500 can be over a £1000 plus now, the original excuse was the oil price then they couldn’t get staff as they had laid them of because of Covid. The fares haven’t come down although the oil price has dropped, I would have assumed the staff shortages have been sorted out, even searching months in advance the fares are not reducing, price gouging !

Air travel is going to take a battering with the onset of net zero demands as aircraft are vilified as great polluters by the eco warriors, talk of electric powered aircraft is a pipe dream.
The globalists will have us all never venturing out of our locality, bus and trains a rip off, cars unaffordable and overseas holidays history as aircraft are a no no, even ships are unacceptable…. You’ll end up with holidaying in Seaton or the Headland, with fish and chips history to placate the Vegans…..we’re going backwards.


I think the days of every one driving an electric car is a pipe dream, every household will need a special socket to charge the car then we will need additional power stations to produce the electricity.
Air and sea travel won’t be curtailed as we need both for transporting goods round the globe never mind people going on holiday.


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I think the days of every one driving an electric car is a pipe dream, every household will need a special socket to charge the car then we will need additional power stations to produce the electricity.
Air and sea travel won’t be curtailed as we need both for transporting goods round the globe never mind people going on holiday.

Electric cars will end up with separate charging meters from the rest of the household so the Government can put duty on the price just like petrol and screw people over….. then there’s the new problem of the weight of the bloody things will will entail extra costs on roads, bridges and multi storey car parks, but as fewer will be able to afford cars in the future, the green lobby will be over the moon.
Sadly the future for ships and planes is going to change in the trade magazines I subscribe too and while freight may be prioritised the cheap holiday flights and the multi storey cruise liners are in the sights of the environmentalists elite…you’ll have to swop Thailand for a bird watching holiday at Salt Marsh in your Arctic underpants in July…..enjoy :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
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I think the days of every one driving an electric car is a pipe dream, every household will need a special socket to charge the car then we will need additional power stations to produce the electricity.
Air and sea travel won’t be curtailed as we need both for transporting goods round the globe never mind people going on holiday.

Electric cars will end up with separate charging meters from the rest of the household so the Government can put duty on the price just like petrol and screw people over….. then there’s the new problem of the weight of the bloody things will will entail extra costs on roads, bridges and multi storey car parks, but as fewer will be able to afford cars in the future, the green lobby will be over the moon.
Sadly the future for ships and planes is going to change in the trade magazines I subscribe too and while freight may be prioritised the cheap holiday flights and the multi storey cruise liners are in the sights of the environmentalists elite…you’ll have to swop Thailand for a bird watching holiday at Salt Marsh in your Arctic underpants in July…..enjoy :laugh:


Snowy I am in the twilight years of my life, I think aircraft will still be flying before I pop my clogs.
The environmentalists are in the minority, very few countries are trying to go carbon free, when one country decides to go carbon free the companies will move on to some underdeveloped country to poison them.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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I think the days of every one driving an electric car is a pipe dream, every household will need a special socket to charge the car then we will need additional power stations to produce the electricity.
Air and sea travel won’t be curtailed as we need both for transporting goods round the globe never mind people going on holiday.



Snowy I am in the twilight years of my life, I think aircraft will still be flying before I pop my clogs.
The environmentalists are in the minority, very few countries are trying to go carbon free, when one country decides to go carbon free the companies will move on to some underdeveloped country to poison them.

always got to remember flights and passenger ships are a two way journey. there are people wanting to come over here as much as some of us want to go there. if tourism in this country is as important to our economy as they make out they,ll want to encourage more not less. however private car use could be a thing of the past for the masses. if thats the case cheaper a.nd more frequant public transport needs to be there before this happens.


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Snowy wrote:
Ever get the feeling that businesses are trying to recoup their Covid losses and a lot more….?

of course they are and many are falling for the cost of living going up causing it. you only need to compare prices restaurants and holiday parks are charging now than they were pre covid. this kicked off before this cost of living increase but people were so keen to get back to normal they paid it. not for us as we do not bother now with either anymore and the robbers can do one.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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I think the days of every one driving an electric car is a pipe dream, every household will need a special socket to charge the car then we will need additional power stations to produce the electricity.
Air and sea travel won’t be curtailed as we need both for transporting goods round the globe never mind people going on holiday.

Electric cars will end up with separate charging meters from the rest of the household so the Government can put duty on the price just like petrol and screw people over….. then there’s the new problem of the weight of the bloody things will will entail extra costs on roads, bridges and multi storey car parks, but as fewer will be able to afford cars in the future, the green lobby will be over the moon.
Sadly the future for ships and planes is going to change in the trade magazines I subscribe too and while freight may be prioritised the cheap holiday flights and the multi storey cruise liners are in the sights of the environmentalists elite…you’ll have to swop Thailand for a bird watching holiday at Salt Marsh in your Arctic underpants in July…..enjoy :laugh:


Snowy I am in the twilight years of my life, I think aircraft will still be flying before I pop my clogs.
The environmentalists are in the minority, very few countries are trying to go carbon free, when one country decides to go carbon free the companies will move on to some underdeveloped country to poison them.

Trouble is Jamie while they are a minority, governments, business and the main stream media are desperate to please them, the common sense majority are ignored….mind you, the demonstrators all look like retired professionals and the demented posh offspring off the elite…..we are controlled by idiots.

PS I hope you live till your 99 and pop your clogs in an hot tub incident with Dorothy Holbrook’s Harmony Hussars. :laugh:

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Drive past the petrol station if you think their prices are expensive is my advice..How much do the prices compare to the cost of running your scooter around Pattaya beach mr jamie? :)


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Drive past the petrol station if you think their prices are expensive is my advice..How much do the prices compare to the cost of running your scooter around Pattaya beach mr jamie? :)


I don’t drive here, no need to as plenty of cheap transport is available plus the driving sense of most Thais drivers leaves a lot to be desired.I have witnessed too many accidents more so people getting knocked off scooters to be on a scooter.
Petrol is 83p a litre and diesel is 78p, the government more or less sets the price, that’s expensive as the living wage is 50p an hour.
Considering the poor wages there are loads of gas guzzlers, by all accounts a nice car gives you a better status than a big property.


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A better solution than electric from Toyota ?
https://youtu.be/rTawvzH0MQ4


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Jamie1952 wrote:
A better solution than electric from Toyota ?
https://youtu.be/rTawvzH0MQ4

sorry cannot watch it listening to the commentary with a voice like that.


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Two years ago Hartlepool petrol was always cheaper than Stockton/Boro now it’s the other way round and this is at the same supermarkets only a few miles apart, just rip off merchants


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That is so very true, drive down Portrack and compare prices between its sister outlet down the Marina.
Supermarkets killed off the local garages and then gently squeezed us where it hurts when they get a virtual monopoly.

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That is so very true, drive down Portrack and compare prices between its sister outlet down the Marina.
Supermarkets killed off the local garages and then gently squeezed us where it hurts when they get a virtual monopoly.

its a good job we have the discount shops about like aldi and lidl as goodness knows what the prices for food would be as well if we had to rely on the generosity of the big supermarkets. it would be the same with everything they sell not just fuel.


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As if we didn’t know already, supermarkets controlling fuel prices as they do the price of food, shame Aldi or Lidl didn’t sell fuel.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-66085232


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I was in Whitley Bay at the weekend and for the first time in what seems like decades i noticed the Morrisons garage offering the same price for both Diesel and Petrol at 141 a litre. Was in shock.

The elite are just trying their luck with something else till WW3 kicks off then we really wont be able to just travel where we want.

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I was in Whitley Bay at the weekend and for the first time in what seems like decades i noticed the Morrisons garage offering the same price for both Diesel and Petrol at 141 a litre. Was in shock.

The elite are just trying their luck with something else till WW3 kicks off then we really wont be able to just travel where we want.

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There’ll be no WW3….. the globalists have their Eco stooges banging the drum.
Realistically the working class can say goodbye to owning a car as they simply won’t be able to afford one when they’re all electric, there’ll be no cheap runabouts, in fact no cheap anything why do you think we’re getting E scooters foisted on us as a viable piece of personal transport… we’ll end up like North Korea where the truth is flexible.

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I was in Whitley Bay at the weekend and for the first time in what seems like decades i noticed the Morrisons garage offering the same price for both Diesel and Petrol at 141 a litre. Was in shock.

The elite are just trying their luck with something else till WW3 kicks off then we really wont be able to just travel where we want.

make the most of Ryanair before they mysteriously go bankrupt

There’ll be no WW3….. the globalists have their Eco stooges banging the drum.
Realistically the working class can say goodbye to owning a car as they simply won’t be able to afford one when they’re all electric, there’ll be no cheap runabouts, in fact no cheap anything why do you think we’re getting E scooters foisted on us as a viable piece of personal transport… we’ll end up like North Korea where the truth is flexible.


Have to agree. Its going to be fine.

Saw an article saying that there is pressure to put back the 2030 ban on ICE car sales. Good news if so.

Don't get me started on E scooters. Either class them as a motorised scooter or make them PROPERLY illegal. Don't mind which side ofc the fence it goes.


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I reckon WW3 started with the twin towers, its just a different kind of war which includes the current military invasion of Europe.


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Don't get me started on E scooters. Either class them as a motorised scooter or make them PROPERLY illegal. Don't mind which side ofc the fence it goes.

most know if there was no E in there name the things would be banned. not sure if i dreampt this but i,m sure years ago there was petrol scooters about that you could only use on private land with the owners permission.


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My car was MOT'd in mid February and since then I have only done short of 200 miles and only put petrol in a couple of £20.

Now only drive to local Lidl every Monday @ 8am (Tuesday if Bank Holiday) and dear old car comes out of the garage and goes straight back again when I get home.

What a sedate life I live!


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Even with the price of petrol as it is now its cheaper to snort a line of coke and run to work.

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My car was MOT'd in mid February and since then I have only done short of 200 miles and only put petrol in a couple of £20.

Now only drive to local Lidl every Monday @ 8am (Tuesday if Bank Holiday) and dear old car comes out of the garage and goes straight back again when I get home.

What a sedate life I live!

if they put fuel up 10 per cent then we use ours 10 per cent less.


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