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 Post subject: N.L Play Offs
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2023 4:18 pm 
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Watched them all and nothing has changed we will need 9 players over 6 foot and 2 whippets up front.
Notts county deserved their win and its pretty even chesterfield/Bromley at the moment.
At least Kidderminster beat King Lynn so we wont be going there thank god.
Chester are playing Brackley at the moment so i suppose we would prefer a Kidderminster/Chester final.


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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2023 4:37 pm 
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The other final is Oxford City / St Albans so we will be playing one off these finals are
National League Saturday.
NL North and South are Sunday.
Writing a post like this really brings home what an absolute shit show this season has been and a feeling our relegation has been self inflicted bye tosses'


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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2023 5:40 pm 
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Looks like one of Notts or cheaterfield which I suppose is good news from a getting the bigger clubs out of the way perspective


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The final for the purists and the league. Guaranteed a better crowd than if the southerns had got there.


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ToTheHartlepool2-0 wrote:
The final for the purists and the league. Guaranteed a better crowd than if the southerns had got there.

the authorities would have been shitting themselves when the two southern B were doing well. possibly thinking about moving the final to leyton orient if both had got there.


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It's going to be interesting, only a few trains from Nottingham or Chesterfield on East Midlands Railways due to RMT strikes. Wonder if NL will move it to a Manchester stadium or Leeds....


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ZNB12 wrote:
It's going to be interesting, only a few trains from Nottingham or Chesterfield on East Midlands Railways due to RMT strikes. Wonder if NL will move it to a Manchester stadium or Leeds....


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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2023 8:44 am 
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Grayhoundend wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
It's going to be interesting, only a few trains from Nottingham or Chesterfield on East Midlands Railways due to RMT strikes. Wonder if NL will move it to a Manchester stadium or Leeds....


NO!!!

Is the answer to your ?

it would be played at wembley even if there was a plague inside the M25, martial law declared in london or sadik khan has a weekend curfew in the capital. fans do not count as long as the game is played there and the tv companies are happy.


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got a funny feeling Chesterfield are going to pinch this one... only because we so desperately want Notts out of our way now we are down.

They will no doubt be the team to beat next season should they fail in the final - but that again depends on keeping hold of Mr Langstaff as id imagine he has more than enough admirers in the league just now ! I reckon DC will be in for him as him and Padden upfront would be unreal in L2 again should Stockport not go up.


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 Post subject: Re: N.L Play Offs
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[quote="Eiphos_3"]got a funny feeling Chesterfield are going to pinch this one... only because we so desperately want Notts out of our way now we are down.

a agree plus i have a feeling that notts will bottle it in the final. they struggled to get there at home in the semi final againt a lower ranked side at home and always feel paul cook is one of those lucky managers rather than good ones.


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 10:33 am 
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If Notts don't win it's likely they will struggle to repeat this seasons efforts. It's typical that failure by a hairs width bites you next time round. Look at Pools cheated out of a place in the championship to be relegated the following season.

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Gateshead will be the surprise package.
Surely we can compete with them.
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 Post subject: Re: N.L Play Offs
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Hartleblue wrote:
If Notts don't win it's likely they will struggle to repeat this seasons efforts. It's typical that failure by a hairs width bites you next time round. Look at Pools cheated out of a place in the championship to be relegated the following season.


That was down to Martin Scott and his signings, another wrong appointment by IOR, he was a control freak.


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 Post subject: Re: N.L Play Offs
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Hartleblue wrote:
If Notts don't win it's likely they will struggle to repeat this seasons efforts. It's typical that failure by a hairs width bites you next time round. Look at Pools cheated out of a place in the championship to be relegated the following season.


That was down to Martin Scott and his signings, another wrong appointment by IOR, he was a control freak.

Trouble is the fans went into the season with great expectations and Scott was revealed for what he was.

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 Post subject: Re: N.L Play Offs
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Hartleblue wrote:
If Notts don't win it's likely they will struggle to repeat this seasons efforts. It's typical that failure by a hairs width bites you next time round. Look at Pools cheated out of a place in the championship to be relegated the following season.


That was down to Martin Scott and his signings, another wrong appointment by IOR, he was a control freak.


We also were v unlucky with injuries that year Boyd out all season and I think Porter also injured (and James Brown)
Scott was an awful manager but was a combination of poor management and bad luck that we actually went down--as seen by the fact we pissed promotion the following year under Wilson


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loyal_fan wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Hartleblue wrote:
If Notts don't win it's likely they will struggle to repeat this seasons efforts. It's typical that failure by a hairs width bites you next time round. Look at Pools cheated out of a place in the championship to be relegated the following season.


That was down to Martin Scott and his signings, another wrong appointment by IOR, he was a control freak.


We also were v unlucky with injuries that year Boyd out all season and I think Porter also injured (and James Brown)
Scott was an awful manager but was a combination of poor management and bad luck that we actually went down--as seen by the fact we pissed promotion the following year under Wilson


Plus he signed his mackum mates, think Ben Clarke knocked him out in the dressing room or was it when he turned up in a pub in Durham where the Pools players used to drink and there was altercation ?


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 Post subject: Re: N.L Play Offs
PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 6:25 pm 
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Notts County win on penalties.


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 6:30 pm 
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Cracking game that's what football is all about.

If raj gives a good budget with Askey we stand a good chance of going up here's hoping.


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 Post subject: Re: N.L Play Offs
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If I was the owner of Chesterfield, I would walk into the dressing room and Sack Paul Cook Infront of all his staff for not wanting to watch the penalty shootout. Make the point of all the supporters and directors had to watch it.

Tell him to make his own way home.


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 6:45 pm 
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That final was absolute DogShite.
I know i,m biased, But both Pools and Torquay would have slaughtered both of those today.


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ZNB12 wrote:
If I was the owner of Chesterfield, I would walk into the dressing room and Sack Paul Cook Infront of all his staff for not wanting to watch the penalty shootout. Make the point of all the supporters and directors had to watch it.

Tell him to make his own way home.


If you don,t understsnd what he was going through then you have never been involved.


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:14 pm 
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Grayhoundend wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
If I was the owner of Chesterfield, I would walk into the dressing room and Sack Paul Cook Infront of all his staff for not wanting to watch the penalty shootout. Make the point of all the supporters and directors had to watch it.

Tell him to make his own way home.


If you don,t understsnd what he was going through then you have never been involved.

In my eyes he's a coward. As a player, you want your manager there to pick you up. If it's personal then he shouldn't have been on the touch line. That's just my opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: N.L Play Offs
PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:43 am 
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Notts County fans would have felt a bit aggrieved if they had lost, finished 23 points above Chesterfield and a goal difference of 75 compared to Chesterfields 29.
I think if you finish 10 points or more of the team below you there shouldn’t be a play off.


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 Post subject: Re: N.L Play Offs
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Notts County fans would have felt a bit aggrieved if they had lost, finished 23 points above Chesterfield and a goal difference of 75 compared to Chesterfields 29.
I think if you finish 10 points or more of the team below you there shouldn’t be a play off.

there is more chance of pools hosting the world cup final than they,ll stop the play offs. even if one season every play off game consists of a notts county missing out with such a big points difference they,ll never get rid. Possibly think up something worse in the future or go really usa and not have promotion or relegation and buy yourself in the top.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 1:14 pm 
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That final was rubbish,hardly any decent football played at all.
Two keepers as bad as Killip & they were two of the better sides?


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Looks like Oxford City next season for us. Shit ground with 3000 capacity. Nowhere near the city centre and just off the A40. Wonderful.

We're going to be in the 5 biggest teams next season, with Oldham, Southend (if in business, winding up petition this month), Chesterfield, Rochdale & Pools.


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ZNB12 wrote:
Looks like Oxford City next season for us. Shit ground with 3000 capacity. Nowhere near the city centre and just off the A40. Wonderful.

We're going to be in the 5 biggest teams next season, with Oldham, Southend (if in business, winding up petition this month), Chesterfield, Rochdale & Pools.


Southend will still be in business. Winding up petitions happen all the time and the clubs invariably survive them. How many have Pools been through over time?


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Looks like Oxford City next season for us. Shit ground with 3000 capacity. Nowhere near the city centre and just off the A40. Wonderful.

We're going to be in the 5 biggest teams next season, with Oldham, Southend (if in business, winding up petition this month), Chesterfield, Rochdale & Pools.


Southend will still be in business. Winding up petitions happen all the time and the clubs invariably survive them. How many have Pools been through over time?

Southend are due in court later this month again. Ron Martin still hasn't paid the staff since February and owes lots to creditors and HMRC still. Roots hall doesn't have a safety certificate from the council as it's falling down.
Think we had 2 in last 10 years or so Southend about 7 in last 6 years.


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I may be wrong but I cant think of any FL team that has folded due to a winding up order from HMRC. Macclesfield owed a lot to HMRC when they folded but not clear if it was the HMRC that caused their demise or their other debts. If Southend are in the brown stuff as much as you say they are, things are looking a bit grim but in most cases teams live to fight another day. It will be interesting to see what transpires.


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Think they pi**ing against the wind. They paid 2 million to HMRC in March and now owe more. Not paid clubs full time office staff since February and are still on a transfer embargo. One little bit of good news is they will be allowed to start the new season but under the embargo still. Makes our situation smell like roses poor buggers. sadx


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The Torquay vultures are hoping Southend get wound up next week or at least be relegated by the NL making way for a reprieve. Apparently other clubs have been relegated for less problems than Southend are having and Torquay fans reckon their club can ask the NL to take some action against Southend even if they survive the winding up partition.


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I personally think Southend will be ok. They survived every other winding up petition and Court order. Plus don't want Torquay to come back up. NLS is where their belong this season with Gary Johnson.


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I personally think Southend will be ok. They survived every other winding up petition and Court order. Plus don't want Torquay to come back up. NLS is where their belong this season with Gary Johnson.


Spot on :wink:


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ZNB12 wrote:
Looks like Oxford City next season for us. Shit ground with 3000 capacity. Nowhere near the city centre and just off the A40. Wonderful.

We're going to be in the 5 biggest teams next season, with Oldham, Southend (if in business, winding up petition this month), Chesterfield, Rochdale & Pools.

we are only going to be a big side if the recruitment is right and we are in the top 5 of the division. we will struggle again to attract players unlike those inside the M25 do with far more options than we will have.


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Bookies EFL 2 title favourites and heavily tipped for back to back promotions just miss out.
So near yet so far for last years NL champions.
Despite that astronomical playing budget.
What a crying shame.
What will those accounts look like next year I wonder.
Good job Stotty is apparently so "laid back" about boat loads of his money going down the drain.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65710379

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possibly for stott its like us dropping a fiver in the street with the cash he has available.


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possibly for stott its like us dropping a fiver in the street with the cash he has available.


Lets see how laid back, unique and helpful Stotty is when the shit hits the fan. Licking his arse might not be enough to save Chally.

Stockport manager Dave Challinor has thanked the club's "unique" owner Mark Stott as he prepares for Sunday's League Two play-off final.
"Mark's been great - he has a team that works in this business and his other businesses and have come together really well and put a plan in place for the club to move forward," he told BBC Radio Manchester."
"In terms of his involvement he is, as he looks, ridiculously laid back. We don't see a great deal of him and he lets us get on with our stuff. But we know that if we need anything, he is there to help."


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if any of us had stotts money and owned pools we would be delighted to have got promoted from the national league, ended up 4th in the league and lost on penalty,s in a play off final in just weeks over a single year.


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Only 7 teams north of Birmingham next season, Gateshead, York, Altrincham, Chesterfield, Fylde, Halifax and Oldham, might as well make a block booking in a central London hotel for the season judging by the rest.

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possibly for stott its like us dropping a fiver in the street with the cash he has available.

People like that get to be people like that by not losing 5p, never mind a fiver.
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if any of us had stotts money and owned pools we would be delighted to have got promoted from the national league, ended up 4th in the league and lost on penalty,s in a play off final in just weeks over a single year.


If Challinor's Stockport make a poor start to next season he could be at risk of the sack by Christmas; fans are fickle and he'd find out whether the owner is too. But the boot wouldn't make him a bad manager, any more than getting sacked by Fylde did.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
if any of us had stotts money and owned pools we would be delighted to have got promoted from the national league, ended up 4th in the league and lost on penalty,s in a play off final in just weeks over a single year.


If Challinor's Stockport make a poor start to next season he could be at risk of the sack by Christmas; fans are fickle and he'd find out whether the owner is too. But the boot wouldn't make him a bad manager, any more than getting sacked by Fylde did.


When you have finanical backing and bigger expectations (than pools) The pressure increses 10 fold.
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Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
if any of us had stotts money and owned pools we would be delighted to have got promoted from the national league, ended up 4th in the league and lost on penalty,s in a play off final in just weeks over a single year.


If Challinor's Stockport make a poor start to next season he could be at risk of the sack by Christmas; fans are fickle and he'd find out whether the owner is too. But the boot wouldn't make him a bad manager, any more than getting sacked by Fylde did.

some fans will want him gone far more than a new signing that makes a poor start is written off if that happens. like all managers askey will make mistakes for us next season in recruitment and the team he puts out or employing the wrong tactics. many fans want complete perfection from owners and managers but pools and everyone else aint going to get it.


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