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Comments in Mail opens can of worms about attitude of some players.


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Johnjo1 wrote:
Comments in Mail opens can of worms about attitude of some players.

I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised.

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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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He’s not a fan of Sylla, who interestingly put a shift in big time every time he played

I thought we had an option for him for another year, but looks like he’s off at season end for nowt


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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loyal_fan wrote:
He’s not a fan of Sylla, who interestingly put a shift in big time every time he played

I thought we had an option for him for another year, but looks like he’s off at season end for nowt


Probably for the best. All the players need to be pulling in the same direction.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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This is why we must keep askey if these reports are true about players not wanting to play he knows who they are and get rid of the lot of them.
It does make sense given how we were playing then 3 games lost with very little effort wankers.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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Well said Mr Askey.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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Sounds like a few cliques. Maybe team was not as United as we thought. No Sylla, no Kemp no McDonald. Sounds like Askey knows who the trouble makers where. Certainly
A different attitude yesterday. That team would have beaten Crawley but all irrelevant now . Askey just needs to select the same team against Stockport and again put in a credible performance


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Johnjo1 wrote:
Comments in Mail opens can of worms about attitude of some players.


Thats why no other clubs wanted these cheap n nasty players.
JA gunna have the same problem as the previous 4 managers as far as Recruitment is concerned.

Well done to Blyth on staying up.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Johnjo1 wrote:
Comments in Mail opens can of worms about attitude of some players.


Thats why no other clubs wanted these cheap n nasty players.
JA gunna have the same problem as the previous 4 managers as far as Recruitment is concerned.

Well done to Blyth on staying up.


We only got cheap and nasty players because that’s all the budget could afford and the late appointment of a manager meant there were only the dregs to choose from.We are stuck with some for another season, apart from Paterson no club wanted to even take any of them on loan, by all accounts Paterson was a good attacking player but couldn’t defend ?


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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loyal_fan wrote:
He’s not a fan of Sylla, who interestingly put a shift in big time every time he played

I thought we had an option for him for another year, but looks like he’s off at season end for nowt

I don’t know what the circumstances are in this case, but the game’s littered with decent players whose behaviour/ anttiude outweighs any benefits from their offering on the pitch.
There’s more to a player than just their performance on the pitch.

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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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The budget wasn't the problem, failing to either back Lee or have a replacement on hand was the biggest mistake. Our budget was similar to the likes of Barrow and Carlisle who have done ok this season, 2 year contracts for the likes of Hastie (supposedly on over 2k per week) is criminal and down to Hartley not Raj.
At least as things stand we have a manager in place for next season who will have plenty of time to wheel and deal and prepare a squad. What he'll do with the likes of Hastie, Paterson, etc is going to be his biggest challenge to free up wages for players who will actually play a part.


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PTID wrote:
The budget wasn't the problem, failing to either back Lee or have a replacement on hand was the biggest mistake. Our budget was similar to the likes of Barrow and Carlisle who have done ok this season, 2 year contracts for the likes of Hastie (supposedly on over 2k per week) is criminal and down to Hartley not Raj.
At least as things stand we have a manager in place for next season who will have plenty of time to wheel and deal and prepare a squad. What he'll do with the likes of Hastie, Paterson, etc is going to be his biggest challenge to free up wages for players who will actually play a part.


Not convinced at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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We only got cheap and nasty players because that’s all the budget could afford and the late appointment of a manager meant there were only the dregs to choose from.We are stuck with some for another season, apart from Paterson no club wanted to even take any of them on loan, by all accounts Paterson was a good attacking player but couldn’t defend ?

if we had got nasty players it might have been better. the late appointment of hartley really meant he had no option but to go back to scotland for the players he knew. i,d rather fall on my sword signing players i have seen play rather than take advice from someones lap top.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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harrogatepoolie wrote:
Sounds like a few cliques. Maybe team was not as United as we thought. No Sylla, no Kemp no McDonald. Sounds like Askey knows who the trouble makers where. Certainly
A different attitude yesterday. That team would have beaten Crawley but all irrelevant now . Askey just needs to select the same team against Stockport and again put in a credible performance

every club has a few cliques but usually its off the pitch and not on it. just the same as in any workplace whether there are 30 or 300 of you. its the shit sterers thats the problem by turning the heads of those who are not as strong mentally as they are. we were not overly great in the first half yesterday but the second half gave us hope for the future and went someway to stop the hurt we were all feeling. play like we did in the second half for 90 minutes we,ll give stockport more than a game where they need all the poits for possible automatic promotion. in askey we have hope.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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PTID wrote:
The budget wasn't the problem, failing to either back Lee or have a replacement on hand was the biggest mistake. Our budget was similar to the likes of Barrow and Carlisle who have done ok this season, 2 year contracts for the likes of Hastie (supposedly on over 2k per week) is criminal and down to Hartley not Raj.
At least as things stand we have a manager in place for next season who will have plenty of time to wheel and deal and prepare a squad. What he'll do with the likes of Hastie, Paterson, etc is going to be his biggest challenge to free up wages for players who will actually play a part.


Of course it’s down to Singh he appointed Hartley.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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Yes he was an absolute disaster but In all fairness there was very little objection when Hartley was named manager.


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Johnjo1 wrote:
Yes he was an absolute disaster but In all fairness there was very little objection when Hartley was named manager.


We thought we were getting another Neale Cooper, he quoted at his interview he liked his teams to play fast attacking football unfortunately the players he signed couldn’t play fast attacking football.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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Theres an awful lot of posters who have never made a mistake.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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Sylla reminds me of Tino Asprilla if not in ability. Asprilla came into that Newcastle team with extraordinary skills but completely destroyed the team spirit. I suspect the same can be said of our garlic chewing midfielder.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Sylla reminds me of Tino Asprilla if not in ability. Asprilla came into that Newcastle team with extraordinary skills but completely destroyed the team spirit. I suspect the same can be said of our garlic chewing midfielder.

the real annoying thing about it is sylla always put a shift in and could never be blamed for our defeats. is it a case of him getting at his team mates for their shortcomings and its easier to drop him to keep 10 others happy. he could be the worst offender for team spirit but there are a few others who have given the impression of a lack of interest. he hasn,t names sylla outright but most likely he is the problem and JA is certainly not going to side with any player who will not be around next season against those who will and he wants to keep.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Johnjo1 wrote:
Yes he was an absolute disaster but In all fairness there was very little objection when Hartley was named manager.


We thought we were getting another Neale Cooper, he quoted at his interview he liked his teams to play fast attacking football unfortunately the players he signed couldn’t play fast attacking football.

I along with an awful lot of others made the mistake of believing they hype and paid the price, but no one was bothered initially….I promised to give him ten matches and I did, but it was like trying to pump the water out of the Titanic with a bucket on a rope.
We live and learn. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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Probably all the Man Of the match awards went to his head. Third level in France seems his limit, but doesn't stay long at clubs now. I like the remark thinks he's better and I hope he gets what he thinks he deserves.

Askey seems to know what he is looking for and hopefully we can remove the dreamers from the team.


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He was our best player, shame he wants out but no sense keeping him
I am more worried about the shite still on the books we can’t get rid of


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Murray
Patterson
Lacey
Hastie
Grey
Dolan
Ndoji

All under contract apparently and shouldn’t be anywhere near the 1st team

Umerah, Pruti dodds and cooke can play in a conf side no bother

So looking for 7 players just to round out a first 11,

Will see how things play out but I think next year is about survival before shipping out the shite above under contract


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 Post subject: Re: Askey in Mail
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And can we please bin Crawford off, not physical enough, am sure Askey knows


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I'd be surprised if Umerah is still with us next season. The Sterry situation also remains unresolved.


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Can see a few out of contract players going to darlo or spennymoor which is about their level
Hopefully we can palm them off with the likes of Lacey and Ndoji but I am not holding my breath


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Askey's comments reported on the BBC Sport website are bang on:

"We have got to make sure we can get players in who can compete week-in week-out. If we do that in that league we should be competing at the top end of that table rather than the bottom.

"There's quite a few players still under contract [but] changes need to be made. We'll try our best to freshen it up, keep the ones we want and try and move on players.

"We need to be more competitive. We are fine when we can play but when people put us under pressure we struggle a bit - we need to get players who have got a bit more resolve. Hopefully we can bring in some who will be competitive and roll up their sleeves when we need it."

Fans can shout the odds about who should and shouldn't be kept as much as they like, the only retained list that matters is the manager's - and that'll depend on how much room for manoeuvre he's got.


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Askey gets it 100%
Basically we got found out by Newport and afterwards, and once teams pressed us we struggled
I think his hands are likely tied but let’s hope he sticks around, there is plenty of shite in that division below as we know , so a bit of grit allied to some skill and we should do ok

But it’s all about recruitment…. A center back at least 6ft 3 is a must


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And not menayse before anyone suggests it


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And not menayse before anyone suggests it


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loyal_fan wrote:
Askey gets it 100%
Basically we got found out by Newport and afterwards, and once teams pressed us we struggled
I think his hands are likely tied but let’s hope he sticks around, there is plenty of shite in that division below as we know , so a bit of grit allied to some skill and we should do ok

But it’s all about recruitment…. A center back at least 6ft 3 is a must


Apart from being 6ft 3 he needs to be a cynical nasty bastard and his brother needs to be in centre midfield.


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You need two centre backs at the moment we don’t have any who dominate especially in the air


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The keeper would be a good signing, think Leicester have about 6 on their books including Brad Young


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with the ball going to be in the air next season more than on the ground we need a big fit defence and big ball winners in midfield. even the win on saturday showed our weakness with their goal starting with a long throw we failed to clear yet again to eventually get crossed into the box where one of a couple could have slotted it in.


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PTID wrote:
The keeper would be a good signing, think Leicester have about 6 on their books including Brad Young

a lot depends on where leicester see him in the future. a loan to us would feel in his case as he is dropping down rather than a improvement with our relegation.


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Can see a few out of contract players going to darlo or spennymoor which is about their level
Hopefully we can palm them off with the likes of Lacey and Ndoji but I am not holding my breath

we cannot force them out of the club and no one will take em off our hands unless we make up their wages. best thing would be to loan em out for the season and do the best deal possible for pools regarding wages.


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Askey's comments reported on the BBC Sport website are bang on:

"We have got to make sure we can get players in who can compete week-in week-out. If we do that in that league we should be competing at the top end of that table rather than the bottom.

"There's quite a few players still under contract [but] changes need to be made. We'll try our best to freshen it up, keep the ones we want and try and move on players.

"We need to be more competitive. We are fine when we can play but when people put us under pressure we struggle a bit - we need to get players who have got a bit more resolve. Hopefully we can bring in some who will be competitive and roll up their sleeves when we need it."

Fans can shout the odds about who should and shouldn't be kept as much as they like, the only retained list that matters is the manager's - and that'll depend on how much room for manoeuvre he's got.

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