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Reducing the away allocation for our game apparently.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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Now I wonder why they’d do that. sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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To celebrate automatic promotion, Challinors track record will be getting him noticed by other clubs, we already know he is mercenary.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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We can't complain really. We have just neglected our away end, so only 700 can go in it, even if stockport only brought a piss poor 550 up. We could probobly of sold well over 2k for this game.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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they have done that their last 2 home games giving the open end to their fans with the away support stuck in the end of the stand opposite to where the players come out. demand from the teams they played was only about 500 and it seemed sence. however if there is something on the game i,m sure pools would sell both away spots in the ground with ease and not far off it if it was a dead game. just because they are a massive team that could not sell their allocation at the vic its not our fault.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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accrington fan wrote:
they have done that their last 2 home games giving the open end to their fans with the away support stuck in the end of the stand opposite to where the players come out. demand from the teams they played was only about 500 and it seemed sence. however if there is something on the game i,m sure pools would sell both away spots in the ground with ease and not far off it if it was a dead game. just because they are a massive team that could not sell their allocation at the vic its not our fault.


I think they have cocked up in the fact that fair enough if they need the 3 points sell them to there own fans. But if they lose or drop a few points over the next week , they might not need the points. Massive risk now Pools fans will go in there end.

I honestly don't think some of these clubs have any idea how well we are supported away when it comes to big games away. We have a history of taking big numbers when things are resting on the game. We sold out rochdale away when we were going for the title, these tickets will go within an hour.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:22 am 
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To celebrate automatic promotion, Challinors track record will be getting him noticed by other clubs, we already know he is mercenary.

My question was purely rhetorical. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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know now i,ll be stuck in their main stand with my lad. 2 games on the trot there i have had to keep my gob shut when like last time my heart was racing but could do nothing about it till i got back to the safety of my car. glad nobody wasn,t passing as i,d have been taken away by men in white coats.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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This has already rubbed rochdale up the wrong way, just given more ammunition for teams to want to heat them. I can see rochdale giving stockport the bare minimum tickets next time they play them.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
This has already rubbed rochdale up the wrong way, just given more ammunition for teams to want to heat them. I can see rochdale giving stockport the bare minimum tickets next time they play them.

doubt any club can afford to turn away over 1,000 fans just to get their own back for the treatment of their fans. since when have clubs put fans and their wishes first especially over money.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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According to EFL rules Stockport have to give a minimum of 10% of their capacity. Their capacity is just over 10800 so we should be offered at least 1080.
If we don't sell our allocation then the get returned and then can be sold to home fans.
Pools need to apply for their allocation and refer the matter to the EFL if refused that allocation.
If the EFL suddenly grew a pair and told Stockport that breaking the EFL rules will mean expulsion from the EFL, then Stockport would quickly toe the line. However the EFL, like the FA, have rules but don't necessarily carry them through. Therein lies the problems with football.

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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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they could easily give us the full open end but they cannot do that due to EFL rules requiring them to give us a number of seats undercover. that open end would seat more than the minimum required and we would choose whether to sit in the open or stay at home fear it rains. its weeks away anyway and i doubt anyone can guarentee for certain today they,ll be at the game poolies and them.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
This has already rubbed rochdale up the wrong way, just given more ammunition for teams to want to heat them. I can see rochdale giving stockport the bare minimum tickets next time they play them.

Rochdale can kiss my swinger, they've never come in numbers to our place despite it being just up the road but we've always taken decent numbers there, they look likely to drop & when they do I think they'll do a Scunthorpe & ourselves & plummet to the NLN so not worried about playing them again anytime soon after this season.

With regards to your allocation I (& some others on our board) agree we shouldn't be cutting it by any substantial number & with a month left it's too early to be making that decision, Nobody is sure what will be riding on that game, it could be a nothing fixture for both of us or one of us, or both could need something from it. Another couple of weeks should paint a clearer picture. Personally I think you should be given our railway end behind the goal (the normal away end) which would give you about 1200 & we should give the 2 blocks of our covered popside which is normally for away fans over to County fans. That gives you a fair allocation, only downside is that all your support would be open to the elements with no option of cover, although you're hardy souls up there anyway & hopefully by the last game we might actually see some bloody sunshine!

I sincerely hope you're given a proper allocation as I'm quite looking forward to seeing the poolies last day fancy dress tradition 1st hand & you've already suffered the ball ache of having a last game away day moved to a stupid kick off time on a Monday due to the bloody coronation!

Good luck with your upcoming games, I'll post on here closer to our fixture with info on various watering holes for those of you travelling down.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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just give us the open railway end and if the weather forcast is rain we could hire wet suits and go as frogmen or is that frogpersons nowadays.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
To celebrate automatic promotion, Challinors track record will be getting him noticed by other clubs, we already know he is mercenary.

My question was purely rhetorical. :wink:


Had to Google rhetorical to see what it meant.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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scfc1973 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
This has already rubbed rochdale up the wrong way, just given more ammunition for teams to want to heat them. I can see rochdale giving stockport the bare minimum tickets next time they play them.

Rochdale can kiss my swinger, they've never come in numbers to our place despite it being just up the road but we've always taken decent numbers there, they look likely to drop & when they do I think they'll do a Scunthorpe & ourselves & plummet to the NLN so not worried about playing them again anytime soon after this season.

With regards to your allocation I (& some others on our board) agree we shouldn't be cutting it by any substantial number & with a month left it's too early to be making that decision, Nobody is sure what will be riding on that game, it could be a nothing fixture for both of us or one of us, or both could need something from it. Another couple of weeks should paint a clearer picture. Personally I think you should be given our railway end behind the goal (the normal away end) which would give you about 1200 & we should give the 2 blocks of our covered popside which is normally for away fans over to County fans. That gives you a fair allocation, only downside is that all your support would be open to the elements with no option of cover, although you're hardy souls up there anyway & hopefully by the last game we might actually see some bloody sunshine!

I sincerely hope you're given a proper allocation as I'm quite looking forward to seeing the poolies last day fancy dress tradition 1st hand & you've already suffered the ball ache of having a last game away day moved to a stupid kick off time on a Monday due to the bloody coronation!

Good luck with your upcoming games, I'll post on here closer to our fixture with info on various watering holes for those of you travelling down.


Other clubs in the play offs could now look at what stockport are doing now and do it to yourselves. I'm all for getting as many as your home fans in, but this late change to a team that is potentially capable of selling 2000 to 3000 seems like asking for bother.


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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accrington fan wrote:
just give us the open railway end and if the weather forcast is rain we could hire wet suits and go as frogmen or is that frogpersons nowadays.


Great idea accrington I like your ingenuity! clappp We did give out poncho's to fans recently but I don't think that technically satisfies the EFL's provision of cover rule :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Stockport
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
scfc1973 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
This has already rubbed rochdale up the wrong way, just given more ammunition for teams to want to heat them. I can see rochdale giving stockport the bare minimum tickets next time they play them.

Rochdale can kiss my swinger, they've never come in numbers to our place despite it being just up the road but we've always taken decent numbers there, they look likely to drop & when they do I think they'll do a Scunthorpe & ourselves & plummet to the NLN so not worried about playing them again anytime soon after this season.

With regards to your allocation I (& some others on our board) agree we shouldn't be cutting it by any substantial number & with a month left it's too early to be making that decision, Nobody is sure what will be riding on that game, it could be a nothing fixture for both of us or one of us, or both could need something from it. Another couple of weeks should paint a clearer picture. Personally I think you should be given our railway end behind the goal (the normal away end) which would give you about 1200 & we should give the 2 blocks of our covered popside which is normally for away fans over to County fans. That gives you a fair allocation, only downside is that all your support would be open to the elements with no option of cover, although you're hardy souls up there anyway & hopefully by the last game we might actually see some bloody sunshine!

I sincerely hope you're given a proper allocation as I'm quite looking forward to seeing the poolies last day fancy dress tradition 1st hand & you've already suffered the ball ache of having a last game away day moved to a stupid kick off time on a Monday due to the bloody coronation!

Good luck with your upcoming games, I'll post on here closer to our fixture with info on various watering holes for those of you travelling down.


Other clubs in the play offs could now look at what stockport are doing now and do it to yourselves. I'm all for getting as many as your home fans in, but this late change to a team that is potentially capable of selling 2000 to 3000 seems like asking for bother.


We've had it done to us in the past especially in the NL but I don't think clubs were obligated to give 10% in that league. You won't get less than the 10% required to satisfy EFL rules. No reflection on your support at all I'm expecting you to bring a lot but I think 3000 might be pushing it a bit, purely with the game being played when it is with a 12.30 kick off on a bank holiday Monday with the factor of this countries crap transport system added in. Obviously I understand why the rules are the way they are nowadays, post Hillsborough but I sure miss the days when you could just turn up in numbers to a ground, pay on the gate, & the host ground took your money & did their best to squeeze you in. Our allocation for our last away day at Orient sold out in 10 mins leaving a lot of disgruntled fans who've travelled all season missing out, just the way it is nowadays unfortunately.

Our current away facilities are crap I'd hazard a guess that Barrow aside there's not many worse in this division. Unfortunately the layout of our ground with limited access points makes it difficult accommodate away fans in different sections. Hopefully in the next couple of years this is due to change as we're in the process of applying to build a new 4.5K stand to replace the open air end.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
This has already rubbed rochdale up the wrong way, just given more ammunition for teams to want to heat them. I can see rochdale giving stockport the bare minimum tickets next time they play them.

If they ever play them again……for the foreseeable future.

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scfc1973 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
scfc1973 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
This has already rubbed rochdale up the wrong way, just given more ammunition for teams to want to heat them. I can see rochdale giving stockport the bare minimum tickets next time they play them.

Rochdale can kiss my swinger, they've never come in numbers to our place despite it being just up the road but we've always taken decent numbers there, they look likely to drop & when they do I think they'll do a Scunthorpe & ourselves & plummet to the NLN so not worried about playing them again anytime soon after this season.

With regards to your allocation I (& some others on our board) agree we shouldn't be cutting it by any substantial number & with a month left it's too early to be making that decision, Nobody is sure what will be riding on that game, it could be a nothing fixture for both of us or one of us, or both could need something from it. Another couple of weeks should paint a clearer picture. Personally I think you should be given our railway end behind the goal (the normal away end) which would give you about 1200 & we should give the 2 blocks of our covered popside which is normally for away fans over to County fans. That gives you a fair allocation, only downside is that all your support would be open to the elements with no option of cover, although you're hardy souls up there anyway & hopefully by the last game we might actually see some bloody sunshine!

I sincerely hope you're given a proper allocation as I'm quite looking forward to seeing the poolies last day fancy dress tradition 1st hand & you've already suffered the ball ache of having a last game away day moved to a stupid kick off time on a Monday due to the bloody coronation!

Good luck with your upcoming games, I'll post on here closer to our fixture with info on various watering holes for those of you travelling down.


Other clubs in the play offs could now look at what stockport are doing now and do it to yourselves. I'm all for getting as many as your home fans in, but this late change to a team that is potentially capable of selling 2000 to 3000 seems like asking for bother.


We've had it done to us in the past especially in the NL but I don't think clubs were obligated to give 10% in that league. You won't get less than the 10% required to satisfy EFL rules. No reflection on your support at all I'm expecting you to bring a lot but I think 3000 might be pushing it a bit, purely with the game being played when it is with a 12.30 kick off on a bank holiday Monday with the factor of this countries crap transport system added in. Obviously I understand why the rules are the way they are nowadays, post Hillsborough but I sure miss the days when you could just turn up in numbers to a ground, pay on the gate, & the host ground took your money & did their best to squeeze you in. Our allocation for our last away day at Orient sold out in 10 mins leaving a lot of disgruntled fans who've travelled all season missing out, just the way it is nowadays unfortunately.

Our current away facilities are crap I'd hazard a guess that Barrow aside there's not many worse in this division. Unfortunately the layout of our ground with limited access points makes it difficult accommodate away fans in different sections. Hopefully in the next couple of years this is due to change as we're in the process of applying to build a new 4.5K stand to replace the open air end.


The last time we had a similar game, we had already survived and still took 2600 to Carlisle. We sold out rochdales stand when we were going for promotion, just short of 3000 we are more than capable of bringing 2000 to 3000 to northern games. I think its the way your club has switched things at the last minute that's not only cheesed off our fans but rochdale who had already been selling tickets.

I totally get your club is on the up at present, even if your apparently losing 100k a week or something ridiculous that was spouted not long back, I just think it all could of been handled a lot better.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
scfc1973 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
scfc1973 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
This has already rubbed rochdale up the wrong way, just given more ammunition for teams to want to heat them. I can see rochdale giving stockport the bare minimum tickets next time they play them.

Rochdale can kiss my swinger, they've never come in numbers to our place despite it being just up the road but we've always taken decent numbers there, they look likely to drop & when they do I think they'll do a Scunthorpe & ourselves & plummet to the NLN so not worried about playing them again anytime soon after this season.

With regards to your allocation I (& some others on our board) agree we shouldn't be cutting it by any substantial number & with a month left it's too early to be making that decision, Nobody is sure what will be riding on that game, it could be a nothing fixture for both of us or one of us, or both could need something from it. Another couple of weeks should paint a clearer picture. Personally I think you should be given our railway end behind the goal (the normal away end) which would give you about 1200 & we should give the 2 blocks of our covered popside which is normally for away fans over to County fans. That gives you a fair allocation, only downside is that all your support would be open to the elements with no option of cover, although you're hardy souls up there anyway & hopefully by the last game we might actually see some bloody sunshine!

I sincerely hope you're given a proper allocation as I'm quite looking forward to seeing the poolies last day fancy dress tradition 1st hand & you've already suffered the ball ache of having a last game away day moved to a stupid kick off time on a Monday due to the bloody coronation!

Good luck with your upcoming games, I'll post on here closer to our fixture with info on various watering holes for those of you travelling down.


Other clubs in the play offs could now look at what stockport are doing now and do it to yourselves. I'm all for getting as many as your home fans in, but this late change to a team that is potentially capable of selling 2000 to 3000 seems like asking for bother.


We've had it done to us in the past especially in the NL but I don't think clubs were obligated to give 10% in that league. You won't get less than the 10% required to satisfy EFL rules. No reflection on your support at all I'm expecting you to bring a lot but I think 3000 might be pushing it a bit, purely with the game being played when it is with a 12.30 kick off on a bank holiday Monday with the factor of this countries crap transport system added in. Obviously I understand why the rules are the way they are nowadays, post Hillsborough but I sure miss the days when you could just turn up in numbers to a ground, pay on the gate, & the host ground took your money & did their best to squeeze you in. Our allocation for our last away day at Orient sold out in 10 mins leaving a lot of disgruntled fans who've travelled all season missing out, just the way it is nowadays unfortunately.

Our current away facilities are crap I'd hazard a guess that Barrow aside there's not many worse in this division. Unfortunately the layout of our ground with limited access points makes it difficult accommodate away fans in different sections. Hopefully in the next couple of years this is due to change as we're in the process of applying to build a new 4.5K stand to replace the open air end.


The last time we had a similar game, we had already survived and still took 2600 to Carlisle. We sold out rochdales stand when we were going for promotion, just short of 3000 we are more than capable of bringing 2000 to 3000 to northern games. I think its the way your club has switched things at the last minute that's not only cheesed off our fans but rochdale who had already been selling tickets.

I totally get your club is on the up at present, even if your apparently losing 100k a week or something ridiculous that was spouted not long back, I just think it all could of been handled a lot better.


Totally agree it's been handled badly so far, hopefully it's corrected soon for your visit I still think you'll get 1200 tickets which should bring us in line with 10% requirement allowing for segregation areas, that's roughly the same we've been given for Orient in a similar sized ground. As for Rochdale they didn't even turn up for their home fixture against us & I don't ever recall them bringing thousands to us...ever. I'd be very surprised if they wanted to bring practically their whole average home gate to us no matter how close it is & if they do it'll be a first!


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I totally get your club is on the up at present, even if your apparently losing 100k a week or something ridiculous that was spouted not long back, I just think it all could of been handled a lot better.


Totally agree it's been handled badly so far, hopefully it's corrected soon for your visit I still think you'll get 1200 tickets which should bring us in line with 10% requirement allowing for segregation areas, that's roughly the same we've been given for Orient in a similar sized ground.
being west yorkshire based with my lad being a stockport fan i see as many stockport games as pools ones even back io the national league north. both clubs have something in common, pissing off their own fans for years. suppose the current regime are trying to redress this by giving more tickets to home fans and not bothering with away ones that go there once a season. pools could not do things like that because of the way the ground is, but thinking about it if the vic was like edgeley park i would not bother too much if we acted like they have done.


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