I see the French are expressing their displeasure at pension age rises. Why is our population so passive when we are getting shafted?

I was amazed that the fairer sex in this country virtually accepted being made to wait a massive length of time to get their state pension without hardly a whimper. They waited for it to become a fait accompli before questioning it. My wife should have got her state pension in 2020 and now has to wait until January 2027. A huge reduction in income. On top of that she would have ceased paying NI contributions at 60 but is now still paying them. Thousands of pounds have been denied her.

we seem to be so compliant now no matter what is thrown at us. think the poll tax was the last major issue that there were riots about it and a big refusal to pay. there are marches but they only seem to be a small percentage of those who disagree with something and mostly quite peaceful with only the plod getting some stick.

What ever this government gives
Furlough
£67s energy help
£100 Council tax.
Tax allowance rises now n again etc.

It will take a lot more back via the State Pension.
Going up in age and the new ages getting brought forward major style.
Even talk that under 30s will have to wait till there 70.

Dont buy this shit one bit that people are living longer so the burden should be eased on the tax payer.

As for riots.
It could be joint with the foreigners getting spoonfed while our countrymen have to endure foodbanks.
Rishi Out.

A group called WASP, women against State Pension have already been to the High Court and lost, another group are now going through the same process.
Now this will upset a few, why should women, the family will have flown the nest so no one to take care of be allowed to retire 5 years before a man, men in general work in a more physical job so there the ones who should retire early.
What the Government should have done is phased it in over a few years not imposed it all at once.

I can never take the French rioting seriously, they’d have the same reaction if there was a tax on Baguettes.

The WASPI's took no notice in 1995 when the female State Pension Age was first mooted, as Derwent highlighted. As the youngest of them would then be aged 45, they had 15 years to challenge it before it had a personal impact. A phasing in period was included

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... 0to%202020.

in reality very few men who do physical jobs or stressful ones reach retirement age anyway. they either die or more likely go on long term sick because they just cannot do it anymore. no in my early days working there were regular retirements but once starting about 1990 they became rarer than a pools 5 nil victory. then what happened, they put up the pension age. you could not believe it. wonder how many school teachers and nurses carry on to retirement age as you never seem to see older ones around anymore.

Half the rioters are Turks. A breed that infiltrates loads of countries and use any excuse to go violent.
As the Lpool fans who got attacked n robbed can varify.
I stopped a nite in Zurich for an England match years back n it was like Word War 3.

So ya probably rite about the Baguettes.

If Pools go down shall we take to the streets and burn some derelict property?
Its a long list............................

that could end up with more improvements to the town than the council has ever managed to do.

Did you not know the teaching profession DOES NOT want older folk teaching youngsters, Passing on truths and experience.
Have kids thinkiing for themselves, not going to happen.

A number of things here. Firstly the women in question (they are called WASPI women) didn't have the same personal pension opportunities/same wages as men back in the past as they progressed work wise through the 70s and 80s and possibly 90s. But more important than that is the way various governments have implemented this.

Proper letters should have been sent out, explaining what was going to happen, when, why, what it would mean, to who - and what could be done about it. This never happened and it's pretty appalling. I mean it's not as if they didn't have everyones address and employment details. This is the U.K. GOV, they know everything about your payroll details, they take money off you every week or month for gads sake.

So it's not so much what happened but how it was played out. They changed the rules of the game near the end of time then didn't get the word out properly.

When governments have a large majority they can introduce what they want.

Macron's disappearing watch trick can't have helped..


https://news.sky.com/story/emmanuel-mac ... s-12841955

That’s a lot truer than you think.

When I went school the majority of our teachers were coffin dodgers, it used to brighten our day up when a student used to come from uni for work experience

no, this has been going on for at least the last 20 years with teachers leaving years before their retirement age and not because of the present agenda,s they have to cope with. since i packed in playing hockey in 1983 i have only known 3 teachers, one a relative who was a head teacher and the other 2 heads of their subject. all 3 left over bullshit and form filling rather than teaching or the kids themselves.

Are you referring to the young females ones..................................

bet he was as they were the only teachers that had tits.

Why do these vermin have to use tents in France and Belgium yet when they arrive here they have to have hotel rooms?

Personally I'd napalm the fucking lot of them.

I’m waiting for the day they replace the lifeboats in Kent with cross channel ferries.
They could be rebranded ‘Refugee’s Nautical Lifts In’

The Non English Parliament members who basically turning our England into not our england anymore.



Even the channel sharks wont touch these lazy freeloading vermon.

I read Tory MPs whose constituencies which are in or near the proposed accommodations for the boat people are kicking off threatening legal action saying the sites are not suitable,bunch of nimbys !

Of course they are, they’re there to serve their constituents. Lose your constituents, lose your job.
All MP ‘s do it of all Party’s.

There are 6 hotels down here full of them,it's a seaside resort.The MP's can kick off all day for me..

Agreed but the MPs for the constituencies north of London where most of the asylum seekers are housed very rarely complain. Is it a coincidence that all the ones complaining are Conservatives including Priti Patel ?

I’m surprised anyone’s surprised, it’s politics, the last refuge of the hypocrite.

North of London??Has the south coast not got enough refugees They,ll be popping out the man hole covers soon.

funny that they were all silent when they started coming over in dribs and drabs. nip the thing in the bud and the present problems would not have arisen.

The ironic thing is, what percentage will actually go back…? Then if they do get permission to stay will they be able to bring their families over….?
We are a soft touch, governed by naive idealists detached from the consequences.

this lot would have welcomed the norman conquest with open arms and would have thought napoleon would bring more diversity and enrichment to our shores by opening up the border to him.

Yeah the open border idea is a disaster. It stands to reason that the people who consider themselves financially challenged are going to gravitate to where, it is perceived, the money is. Especially the villainous element who see rich pickings.
We wouldn't dream of leaving our doors and windows wide open so why encourage an extension of that.
I have nothing against folk who want to come here not only to better themselves but also make a contribution towards the betterment of our society. It has to be controlled in a strict but humane way.
It is being suggested that ISIS are sending their "troops" into the UK, using these illegal routes. Common sense tells us that idea isn't lost on them. "I've lost my passport or it has been confiscated" are the most common excuses.
It must be a nightmare getting the selection process as watertight as it possibly can be.
Speed up the process is the cry but if that played a part in the infiltration of terrorists the very same people would be shouting that we should have took our time to get it right.

Labour’s solution to the problem is to keep asking for the process to be speeded up, but never mention if they would actually repatriate people who don’t qualify, which is a kick in the teeth for legal immigrants going through due process to get here.

We can’t send them back because we don’t know where they come from in the majority of cases as they are told to throw their identity away by the people smugglers.
I can’t imagine there being much of an investigation when they are being interviewed, it will be a set of questions and unless you water boarded them you would have no idea if they were telling the truth.
How can an individual prove that their life is in danger even if we do know their country of origin, we can’t. A lot of Asylum Seekers are entitled to stay as they already have ‘family’ here.

The open border policy was to allow freedom of movement in the EU not from around the globe, we needed labour for and still do for hospitality, agricultural and of course health care workers.
Net migration to the U.K. in 2022 was the highest ever, nearly half million, this not the asylum seekers this people the majority from outside Europe applying to come to the U.K. to work. The vast majority were from India with Nigeria in second place, no idea on what profession they were.

Yes I know what it was but what I'm saying is that ANY open border policy is a disaster or at the very least a recipe for disaster.
It's a very basic human instinct. We all have our space and most are vigilant as to who enters it.
At least I am.
You of course can have a different view, just don't expect me to follow it unless, of course, it is sensible or reasonable enough to satisfy my standards. People wandering in and out doesn't meet with my approval and never will. Taken from the book of Englishman's standards by Derwent's Granny. HTH.

The problem with U.K. it’s to easy to enter then disappear irrespective if you arrived legally or illegally, in my second home Thailand it’s very difficult to disappear. Visas are generally short term, they can be extended at Immigration though but not long term, 12 months max for certain visas, you have to report to immigration every 90 days, if you don’t and get caught you are fined and deported immediately possibly spending a few days in a detention centre not a hotel. Obviously westerners are easily distinguished so if the Police want they can stop you and ask to see your passport and visa, I take a photograph of mine on my phone. If that was implemented in the U.K. it would be classed as harassment or racism, they don’t mess about here.
Thailand although will soon have a problem, the place is inundated with Russians whose visas will run out soon and can not be extended, figures quoted are around 6/7000.
Coincidentally Thailand have just recently agreed an extradition treaty with Russia, there is nothing to stop Russia now asking them to be extradited for to be drafted, it’s illegal to draft dodge in Russia. Thai Immigration have the knowledge of where the Russians are living generally plus the next time they visit immigration they could be apprehended.

there are a group of people who actually want worldwide open borders. all this is fine if there is a level playing field across the world. there isn,t and its common sence people will pick the one where they,ll get the best deal. once when we wanted labour due to the shortage of workers in an industry adverts for them were put in those countries which is why in the past we got firstly an influx from the caribean, africa and later on india and pakistan. it wasn,t easy for these people with substandard accomodation to live in and proper old fashioned racism thrown their way. the population since about 1950 has gone up nearly 20 million which is not far to being a half extra from those days. no wonder services are overstrtched and with all the extra house building we are seeing does anyone want it continuing to accomodate another 20 million by of this century.

The U.K. has allegedly 1 million job vacancies, could some of the asylum seekers not be fast tracked to fill these vacancies, I am sure some would rather be doing some thing rather than hanging about a hotel all day ?

I have applied for 3 visitor visas for my partner, took around 3 weeks to be granted, it’s a 10 page online document all with the other supporting documentation, why does it take so long to process an asylum application, it’s the same department Border Control.

On the point of housing shortages it was all very good having the lowest interest rate ever but all that did was force housing prices up as builders saw an opportunity to put the house price up as people could afford to pay more. Similar the Help to Buy Scheme where a buyer could borrow money interest free for 5 years from the government, the builders just added that on to the cost of the house.

We have plenty of people allergic to work on benefits…..time there was a crackdown. I know plenty and some in particular have it down to a science.
I also doubt most of these asylum seekers losing their passports and phones mid channel are somehow the sort looking for the work we have on offer.

it would take less time if these people have some form of documentation. imagine visa applications would be slower than that without any proof. round my way there are a couple of small building schemes on the go but they are slow timeing the finish of them to get the most reward in the end. surely a scheme where once land is purchased there should be a timeline where they can be completed as one has now gone on for over 7 years now but i suppose covid will be used as an excuse yet again. no one remembers all the years that never existed though.

its not just immegrants but our own lot as well who are workshy. when i lived in norfolk great yarmouth had one of the highest rates of unemployment in the country and even then we had trouble recruting anyone to work in the arcade on national minimum wage. In fact the small private estate i lived on in hemsby had 36 houses on it. only 4 houses including mine had workers on it. some politicians will love to spout about getting these illegals into work but once you are having it cushy with warm accomodation, 3 decent meals a day plus pocket money it could easily be more said than done.

The government giving these lazy bastads plenty of £900s dosent encourage them to actually earn a living.
The dopey fuckas (government).

Snowy 46000 crossed the channellast year I am sure some would be more than willing to work, I think some will be working in the black economy to boost the £45 a week they get from the government.

KPG, £900 ?

Get real, you do not reward someone whose jumped the queue.

Not rewarding them getting something back for paying for their ‘board and lodge’ which is currently free.and putting some thing into the economy in a country they want to live in.

Not rewarding them getting something back for paying for their ‘board and lodge’ which is currently free.and putting some thing into the economy in a country they want to live in.[/quote]


I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the shortage of workers on UK fruit and veg farms.?

How the feck is £45 a week going to pay for all their tabs and phone contracts ?

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the shortage of workers on UK fruit and veg farms.? [/quote]

You obviously don’t keep up to speed with what actually is going on in the U.K.economy.
Currently there isn’t a labour shortage as it’s not the fruit and veg season, there won’t be either during the season as farmers won’t be planting as many as they usualiy due to labour shortages. You will be the first one to whinge with the higher prices as the U.K. will have to import fruit and veg.instead of producing our own.